Well said. Turning 60 in Jan…do what you can while you can. Just grin and bear it!
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Well said. Turning 60 in Jan…do what you can while you can. Just grin and bear it!
Jaysus! Not to be harsh but if being able to perform at peak level is the definition of meaningful .... and if we have to choose between meaningful or nothing I guess a lot of us geezers are going to be closing the books on our sex lives too.
Having had my hands xrayed a few times recently for relatively benign reasons, it was depressing to hear the young doctors cheerfully diagnose my finger joints as pre-arthritic and the inevitable reward for having lived this long. Doctors in general seem to think that geezers should just sit around passively observing their approaching demise to avoid answering "did you have any falls this week?" in the positive. Many nurses, too, seem disappointed to find a reasonable blood pressure and low pulse rate. I'm thinking of memorizing that Dylan Thomas poem to write on the obligatory questionnaires.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
I remember being super annoyed/insulted the first time I got the "any falls" question ....... then I fell. Now I'm annoyed if they don't ask.
HehQuote:
Originally Posted by Obstruction
Banging three times or more per day ain’t happening anymore
I guess I could
But meh
Still haven’t said why TKR isn’t an option?
Tons of people here are still crushing it, with aftermarket parts.
Shread: Not interested, right now. I have had too many people (more than 5) come into my office who have suffered either infections, replacement failure and DVT (which have resulted in repeat procedure and even death) only to advise that these are "risks inherent in the procedure". I would have to be in really bad shape (unable to ambulate) before considering that type of misery.
Jeezo, were they done in the slums of Calcutta??
Seriously, those are the first instances I've heard of with serious fails. I'm sure there are such occurrences, but to have encountered that many seems unusual. If there's a reverse lottery ticket, you should buy several.
Practice professional negligence lawn NY/NJ for 20 years and you see all kinds of things
Well, you have been retired for almost 15 years. There have been significant advancements in the field in that time. The best joint replacement surgeons in the country are right up the road at the PC hospital. There's no harm in going in for a consult. Dr. Davis is great guy. He won't recommend the carpentry solution unless it's truly justified, and most insurance won't approve it unless you're all the way at Stage 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by schindlerpiste
The other thing to consider is that it's common to develop problems in other joints as a result of the poor mechanics your body adopts to compensate for the bad joint. AC was developing problems in her other knee and hips and those went away following her TKR.
Thanks, but no thanks. I just have no reason in my mind right now to consider it
I do have a consult with Dr. Lind next month. I will probably just be quiet listen to his recommendations and make a decision
If I was AC’s age and was having debilitating knee(or hip) issues, I may be more open to the idea of replacement. Hope she’s doing well. All the best
OP doesnt want the solution, he’s afraid of it.
Do you love your fears or skiing more?
FIN
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I will just wait until I hear what a doc has to say.
I'm not really thinking in those terms, right now.
It's been completely life-changing. See what the doc says, there's no reason to rush into this. As noted, your insurance probably won't cover a TKR unless you have full Stage 4 OA and it doesn't sound like you're there. Also, Tylenol 3s aren't anti-inflammatories; acetaminophen and codeine aren't NSAIDs.Quote:
Originally Posted by schindlerpiste
The old crusty guy that I know who had double tkr found new life. He’s a fit and hard living type (life long car mechanic; heats home with wood since childhood that he fells, gathers, splits himself; dirtbikes; hunter; etc.) He claims that he was pretty indestructible until a little over 50. His rehab took a while, but he’s back to hunting and trail riding.
Armchair dentist advice isn’t good enough?Quote:
Originally Posted by schindlerpiste
I do not recommend a TKR to most but if you're where I was then it, in my opinion is the absolute best and life changing thing you can do. All these other things that are recommend are just delaying the inevitable and sometimes just put a temporary band aid on things.
Yes I'm only 40 and I'm over a year out from my TKR but I was miserable and not skiing and hardly biking and definitely NO hiking downhill before it. I had to stop teaching spin and basically modify everything in the gym not to mention my hip and other knee starting hurting pretty bad. My knee ached and ached all day and night and I was popping IB like crazy, that was no good. If you're not there yet, just keep doing what you can.
Also, I highly recommend that those of you that hear these horror stories try to do more in depth research into what a TKR is now and what is used. Fine a really, really good doc that comes very highly recommended and that is somewhat young like Dr Davis here in PC. Things are moving quickly and are so advanced now that if you're healthy and fit going into it, that's the way you will recover. I was in the worst pain ever for about 2 weeks and didn't sleep great for 2 months but it has been the BEST decision I have made to make my overall daily life better.
I'm back to teaching spin, coaching group training and able to demo every exercise without pain and biggest and most of all there is ZERO, and I mean zero pain and aching now. I can actually hike downhill which I haven't been able to do pain free in what seems like 10 years. Also, back to skiing with NO pain!
AC, thanks for chipping in. I am happy that you are feeling fit, but sad about what you have gone thru. Always wishing you the best.
I just got a new active puppy. No way that I can be sidelined for the next year. I’m walking her 5-7 miles/day, so that also says something about the severity of my knee ailment
Describes my yard perfectly.Quote:
Originally Posted by schindlerpiste
A lot of editors around here. Thanks!
Huh? you should see the grass out there right now. Might be a few tumbleweeds mixed in.
Glad to hear that you're still able to get around enough to cover that milage; definitely sounds like it's not time yet for a TKR. Given that level of activity, your ski days are certainly still meaningful, albeit not exactly blowing the doors off. Enjoy the less frenetic pace, it's all good. If you find yourself feeling down as things wind down, just go out for a walk with your dog. It's my go to remedy.Quote:
Originally Posted by schindlerpiste
One year in Salt Lake my yard was complete yellow and I was heading out for fires before pioneer day. I was worried my yard might catch fire and burn my house while I was gone, so I proactively burned it off myself before I left.
Black lawn!
I was so proud of myself.
Black lawns matter?
Well good news if you aren’t there yet,Quote:
Originally Posted by schindlerpiste
But seriously do what needs done when time comes. You CAN wreck other things by not fixing the knee(s).
Good luck!
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pretty much what he said if you do it right it works my knees disappeared years ago you don't need knees to enjoy life its when the vital organs start failing shit gets realQuote:
Originally Posted by Orthoski
what does meaningful mean ?
probably different for each of us,
I plan to be back on skis with a repaired knee this season but I am under no illusions it will be the same as it was but
still expect to be doing something
This is how it is defined in the OP:
able to ski hard, 4 hours/day, steeps, chop, pow, some moguls, chair to chair without stopping, climbing uphill and taking smallish jumps without too much thought.
Yeah - they're probably over. :fmicon:Quote:
Originally Posted by schindlerpiste
That’s real skiing. But groomer cruising can also be meaningful.Quote:
Originally Posted by schindlerpiste
Watch the old fossils at your hill that are still smiling. Learn from them.
I like skiing. It is why I did a 180 with my life and moved to Park City. I'm not sure that I want to be one of those "old fossils" and I am not sure that skiing groomers (even quality corduroy) 90% of the time will do it for me personally. The day that I can't ski Baldy, or hike Superior or Murdochs, or ski X-files or Evergreen will be a very sad one for me. If I am quasi-sedentary, I might as well live on The Cape and land the occasional striper or bluefish.
I think I see the problem. Fortuanately, you've identified the probable solution.Quote:
Originally Posted by schindlerpiste
Yep, I'm sure that skiing means more to you than to me.:fmicon: Otherwise, what is the point? I LIKE skiing enough to ski 75-100 days of Wasatch goodness each and every year for the past 15+ years. I LIKE skiing enough to uproot a life that many would lust for at age 48 to live in the mountains of UT. I LIKE skiing enough to spend much of my time on this board with you JONGS. I RESPECT skiing enough to ponder whether I really want to spend my late 60s-80s lah-dee-dahing down groomers at DV and Alta. I can always do that on vacation.
Better drug use can improve happiness on groomer zoomers.
Drop some acid and drop the knee :P
I think this brings up the real question, which isn't will you continue to enjoy skiing.. but will you continue to ski enough to live in the mountains or would you prefer to live somewhere else and travel occasionally to ski?Quote:
Originally Posted by schindlerpiste
Either way you don't give up the sport altogether, but one way you might enjoy non-skiing days more?
ExactlyQuote:
I think this brings up the real question, which isn't will you continue to enjoy skiing.. but will you continue to ski enough to live in the mountains or would you prefer to live somewhere else and travel occasionally to ski?
@ the OP. I moved to PC from Indiana and started a 35 year stint in the mountains. I patrolled for a long time and put a lot of miles on my chassis and no longer have the fire to want to ski unless the conditions are good. I too question whether or not I could be satisfied on the groomers and not up high in the less gentrified terrain. Yeah I have lots of friends who have dialed it back and make the best of tamer terrain through the use of mind altering substances and a good attitude. I just don't think that will do it for me though. No answers, just a best of luck to ya.
Haven’t you all dialed it back already?
I’ve dialed it back and moderated “it” for a long time and in many stages. First dial back was after a trip to the ER on a backboard as a teen. Dialed it back again after personal close calls, or watching friends break themselves doing the same thing as me. Dialed it back after knee injuries and dialed it back up after recovery and being stronger. Etc.
Instead of dialing it back in the resort, ie don't ski bumps, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by bodywhomper
Go backcountry skiing and ski steep couloirs.
You will get all the challenge you need, you will not tax your body, except for building endurance.
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Has this been said yet?
No.
Not clear, to me, what you're saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by I Skied Bandini Mountain
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