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Pretty sure it is a World Heritage Site so I can't imagine it's any less something now.Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
Bordeaux can be dope. It can be crazy expensive and dope. But there is sooo much quality wine around there at smaller, less-known producers that are amazing qprs.
Well... it was a quiet place when we went. Gobs of fat Americans would make it less something (for me). :DQuote:
Originally Posted by doebedoe
Garagiste junky checking in.Quote:
Originally Posted by chaka
I’d say 2/3 of our 2-3 bottles a week is from them. Great value and interesting variety, though we usually stick to our guns. By this point I’ve probably flown 200+ garagiste bottles home in checked bags and driven another 200 or so down.
Yes, along with Pauillac, Margaux, Medoc, St. Julien and maybe St. EstephenQuote:
Originally Posted by doebedoe
Surprised nobody has mentioned WTSO yet.
It’s an app… wines til they sell out.
You can get some pretty fantastic stuff drastically discounted. Although drastically discounted doesn’t always mean cheap.
Anyone drinking natty wines?
Yes and no. I try to almost exclusively drink what most would call "natural" wines. E.g. low-intervention farming and wine making, indigenous yeast fermentations only, respect for local winemaking techniques (amphora hell yeah), and grapes (love me some Romarotin).Quote:
Originally Posted by ml242
I don't care if there's a bit of brett on my wines. Although I'd prefer for it to blow off after awhile -- good cru beaujolais comes to mind, and a lot of italians. I jam on a lot of stuff from the Loire Austria, Georgia, and the like. One of my fave tastings ever was with Thierry at Clos tue Boeuf who makes a bunch of weird shit.
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But wines that are just mousy to be mousy and get by on cool to excuse poor wine making -- can fuck right off. But if you're into this sorta thing -- you should go to Barcelona. There are a bunch of straight up natty wine bars crawling with gorgeous, young Catalan women chugging goblets of glou-glou. And I am into that.
Yup, I'll have what you're having.
eta: sure, spain, france, greece, italy, slovenia, and georgia. sign me up for the tour!
there’s good juice btw in bc and ontario, they just can’t hit the same price point. and ontario girls don’t quite have the same appeal as the catalan’s although the sister in letterkenny isn’t bad.
A buddy of mine owns a small vineyard in Napa. It is called Larkin Vineyards. He is big-time into Cab. Franc and now he is doing canned wine.
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He is doing well. I think that it is cheap-ish and is ok. If you see it give it a try.
Na...have whatever Buster serves....Quote:
Originally Posted by ml242
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This was a helluva a fun lineup we had one night in Spain. Almost full pours of 5 Tschida cuvees each for 15eu per person. Luckily we went to Monvinic before we just got fucked on this.
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Fave wine experience ever though is probably La Venecia in Madrid. It's a sherry bar. Had no idea I loved sherry. One example of every main sherry type available. $1.80 for fino or manzanilla. $2.20 for everything else. Straight from the cask. No labels. No bullshit. No other bibations for sale. Simple tapas--free olives, cheese, meat. Cash only, no tipping allowed. No photos or phone conversations. Your tab is kept on chalk on the bar. If I could live in a bar, I'd live there. Of our 4 nights in Madrid, we closed it down at 2am on 3.
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good list.Quote:
Originally Posted by schindlerpiste
Red burgundy? Chateauneuf du Pape = Rhone varietals... Grenache, Syrah... plus, red burgundy and "in the $20s" rarely come together in a sentence :)
They’ve been hit or miss for me. Although they have a 2011 Cabernet from Clarendon Hills that is super tempting right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrecked
^^^ Just be reminded that Clarendon Hills doesn't follow the typical Aussie model insofar as they endeavor to prioritize the expression of terroir over the intensity of ripeness which often has the effect of being somewhat less than satisfying to folks who aren't aware and are expecting the typical Barossa fruit bomb.
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A lot of Biale, Von Strasser and Sullivan wines these days from a trip to Napa a few years back.
Most of these vineyards were small boutique more around St. Helena and Silverado Trail. Lots of damage from the forest fires. The place we stayed called the Black Rock Inn was burned to the ground. The owner had a fantastic wine cave and was not stingy with the best wines.
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For summer, lots of whites: Vouvray from a few different labels.
Really like this label - Teutonic in Portlandia huge shout out to Barnaby. :yourock:
Lots of good whites and a few roses all day.
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I love going to the supermarché in France and picking up a bottle of Côtes du Rhone for a few Euros. Always a good choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buke
Agreed, we’ve had hit-or-miss luck with bio/natural wines of nascent standing. Maybe our price point is too low but it just hasn’t landed in most cases.Quote:
Originally Posted by doebedoe
I’ll still buy obscure wines when we come across them, but there’s often more of a nostalgia/story bias to liking the wine vs it being that great. Albania, Bulgaria, Croatia, Turkey, even Mallorca - you can find some real interesting stuff.
We’ve had some good bottles from Corsica and Puglia this year and have been increasingly into Priorat.
South African Chenin is a go-to summer white, mostly Ken Forrester
Many of the great and classic producers are "natural" wine makers in the sense that they are using only indigenous yeasts, organic/biodynamic farming, hand harvested, no additives except maybe a touch of SO2 (and even many famous "natural" wine makers use a touch of SO2 they just don't talk about it.)Quote:
Originally Posted by alpinevibes
And I agree -- wine for me is about stories and getting drunk with people I like. And it's about it being delicious. I'm basically a lush who skis/runs/works so I don't feel as bad about it.
One of my bucket list is a dinner at the Little Nell where I drink whatever the somm tells me to.
Crisp, Frenchy chardonnay:
Paul Pernot, $30
https://www.wine-searcher.com/mercha..._id_F=28910897
Jean Marc Boillot (house favorite) $24
https://www.bassins.com/wine_detail.php?id=84707
T&P Matrot: $22
https://www.wineworksonline.com/wine...018-w6386177z7
Less expensive red burgundy, more tannic than lots of Americans like
Frederic Esmonin: $16, grittier than most Cali pinot
https://www.winemadeeasy.com/frederi...-ml-53376.html
Nicolas Potel: $17
https://www.saratogawine.com/Nicolas...018-750ml.html
Maison Roche de Bellene Bourgogne Rouge: $17
https://www.empirewine.com/wine/mais...e-2018-i38453/
Albert Bichot Bourgogne Pinot Noir" $17
https://www.winesliquorwarehouse.com...es-vignes-2018
Antonin Rodet Bourgogne Pinot Noir: $18
https://www.woodswholesalewine.com/p...y-france-750ml
Digioia Royer Bourgogne Rouge (House favorite): $19
https://vinsrare.com/2008-digioia-ro...wine-2846.html
Digioia Royer Hautes Cotes des Nuits: $28
https://vinsrare.com/2009-digioia-ro...wine-2994.html
Others from bigger producers like Jadot, Faiveley, etc are out there and good value.
OK, I found a very interesting opportunity.
If I posted a link to some 20 year old red burgundy for $50 is anyone interested?
I got a case of the premier cru from this source a couple of months ago. I think it's RFT.
I make nothing on this, it's just a tip for the consortium of k00ks.
I probably bought 100 cases from wtso.com on the last few years.
Great value, free shipping, and somehow i like all the wines i bought there.
When you buy online, what's the shipping cost?
I wanted to buy a case recently from someone else than wtso and i was amazed how expensive shipping was
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My arm could be twisted for a bottle or twoQuote:
Originally Posted by Buster Highmen
Charles Noellats 2002 premier crus are very, very tasty.Quote:
Originally Posted by alpinevibes
There are 30 of these 2001 village bottles as of today:
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(edit: someone bought it all by 8:30 Pacific.)
Come visit us down South of you sometime.
Damnit, i was too slow. Thanks for the link though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster Highmen
Solid intel on Clarendon Hills. Part of why I like them. Don’t get me wrong, I’m cool with a fruit bomb too but prefer the balance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cruiser
Fack, missed it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster Highmen
We do need to get to Silverton in the non-ATV season. We’ll be up in SEA on Wednesday but it’s my brothers wedding and family time all week
Uhh, is it a camping type wedding?Quote:
Originally Posted by alpinevibes
FYI: Sliverton town council (re)banned ATVs in town as of June.Quote:
Originally Posted by alpinevibes
This is a tasty, nicely priced Italian:
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Negative, just a daytime shindig in Mukilteo.Quote:
Originally Posted by abraham
But we did a camping-style party for our wedding 10 years ago. My brother (who's now getting married) had shotguneed a few IPA's from one of these: https://www.drinkstuff.com/products/product.asp?ID=7275 and was then drunkingly ushered into the wrong tent. It happened to have a friend's wife who'd been married two weeks before asleep in it; she was not pleased. But the camping and wedding combo was a hit, even if it kept the band from catching the last Bainbridge-Seattle ferry of the night...
Camping wedding wine stoke.Quote:
Originally Posted by abraham
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Since we cancelled our larger celebration we got to just spend a good chunk of change on good wine. When we woke up in the morning we remember to write down what the 4 of us drank that night...
- Sanger Terroir Natal Champagne N.V.
- 2019 Cour-Cheverny from Francois Cazin
- 2014 Guiberteau Les Moulins
- 2015 ArPePe Rosso magnum
- 2012 Lignier-Michelot Bourgogne
- 2013 La Torre Brunello di Montalcino
- Crooked Stave Nightmare on Brett
- 2005 Vouvray "Cuvee Botrytis" from Francois Pinon
How was this one?Quote:
Originally Posted by doebedoe
Piñon Vouray
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I haven't drunk a ton of Brunello so I dont have a lot of direct comparisons -- but it was pretty damn killer with some truffle risotto. Probably a bit young still.Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
Francois was the fucking man. RIP. He was my first winery on a wine-bike tour. We sat on his patio and drank for a couple hours through all his cuvees and a few bottles going back to the 80s. We've got a 1990 Moelleux of his from that trip that needs drinking. His son is now in charge making great wine.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnwriter
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2nd. I drink this a lotQuote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
....and you can find vg brunellos for much less than $90/bottle. Banfi, Villa Poggia and Ciacci Piccolomini d’Aragona are examples of excellent $50 burnello
That is awesome!Quote:
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These were amazing. The 12 Nickel and Nickel was a little tired but still good.
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Worst humble brag evar
Nickel and Nickel is still one of my all time favorite wineries.
Killer car collection too.
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Decided to open a cheap treasure brought back from a small guesthouse in Saint-Estephe where we stayed in 2018. It was a small old family chateau with their own little production and label.
Wonderful wine for the 4th, paired with some Hood Canal spot prawns.
PS - Buster your inbox is full up ;)
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