Lange XT3 Tour Pro - praise, gripes, hacks, and mods

Jumping in with a question, purchased the 130XT 140 ProModel, deal was too good to pass up. This is my effort to use 1 boot for alpine & side country.
Felt great in the shop AB’d them with current boot.
Love the the way they ski, not hot spots, forward leans & flex all good, but the right boot puts my big & 2nd toe & ball of my foot asleep. I never had this, been working with the shop, still can’t crack the code. My instep is fine, super light boot buckle tension.
Any ideas on what to try, I have 7 days on them. Unbuckling while on chair does not help. Today was the 1st day I skied something that resembled bumps in lieu of just carving turns, seemed not to be as bad.


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Originally Posted by blur

Jumping in with a question, purchased the 130XT 140 ProModel, deal was too good to pass up. This is my effort to use 1 boot for alpine & side country.
Felt great in the shop AB’d them with current boot.
Love the the way they ski, not hot spots, forward leans & flex all good, but the right boot puts my big & 2nd toe & ball of my foot asleep. I never had this, been working with the shop, still can’t crack the code. My instep is fine, super light boot buckle tension.
Any ideas on what to try, I have 7 days on them. Unbuckling while on chair does not help. Today was the 1st day I skied something that resembled bumps in lieu of just carving turns, seemed not to be as bad.


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try a different insole.

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Originally Posted by SoVT Joey

try a different insole.

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I am using custom footbeds made by the boot fitter that I have been using for 2 seasons in my Mach 1 130LV’s. I thought about skiing. Them a day with the stick foot bed just to experiment.


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I've found when I have foot falling asleep problems usually it comes from too much pressure in the midfoot area that manifests in my toes. A punch just aft of the balls of my feet tend to solve that issue. Mine was on the lateral (outside) of my foot though.

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Originally Posted by SoVT Joey

the xt free skis and performs a lot lower then the xt tour pro from my experience, and I have considerable time in both. The walk mechanism does suck in the tour pro. That’s the only issue with the boot I have since replacing the garbage liner that they send stock.

the XTD is closer to the xt130 in comparison. Tour pro is more of a full tech boot then either. Gripwalk blows for scrambling compared to a 9523 sole.

Rebound is better in both the XTD and the XT130 then the tour pro, but the weight difference is noticeable.

I wouldn’t buy a XT tour pro unless I had plans on a aftermarket liner right off the bat or owned a liner I would be sticking in them. My GFT is the most amazing upgrade I’ve ever made in a boot.

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Sorry, would you say what liner is the GFP? I’m blanking on the acronym


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Originally Posted by hoarhey

Sorry, would you say what liner is the GFP? I’m blanking on the acronym

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I believe this one: https://www.zipfit.com/shop/gft

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Sorry, would you say what liner is the GFP? I’m blanking on the acronym


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Zipfit GFT.

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Originally Posted by blur

I am using custom footbeds made by the boot fitter that I have been using for 2 seasons in my Mach 1 130LV’s. I thought about skiing. Them a day with the stick foot bed just to experiment.


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ya I would try the stock foot beds for a day and see. Just because the customs worked in the Machs doesn’t mean they will work in these. Too many inside variables.

After a few expensive customs and never being happy, my feet are very happy with some decently cheap superfeet.

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Originally Posted by Lord Thomas

How does the Tour Pro ski and walk compared to an XTD 130?

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after another couple instances of my the Langes freezing into walk mode at the beginning of this winter I gave up and abandonded them for XTD 130s. Though I only have ~10 days in the Hawx so far my thoughts are:

The XTD 130 liners feel much more substantial than the Lange liners felt and the whole boot feels a bit more substantial, moreso than I would guess from the ~150 gram/boot weight increase of the Hawx.

I think the flex on the Hawx is a little more progressive and I like it better, despite the same nominal flex number I think they're slightly stiffer.

The heel fit on the Hawx is definitely more snug than on the Lange, at least for my ankle shape. I have fairly high calf muscles and a narrow ankle which meant I had moved the Lange upper buckles to get the tightest fit and still used the middle to further buckle slots, but with the Hawx I'm in the middle buckle position and middle buckle slots and they're nice and tight.

The Hawx are substantially more forward leaning / less upright than the XT3 Tour Pros and have an easy adjustment for the forward lean from 15º to 17º (I'm happy with the default at 15).

I think the Langes toured a little better. The Hawx don't have as much ROM and it has a little bit more friction

Whats up with this 99mm last?
I’ve been in 97mm Lange RS130s forever and they seem to fit quite well, will I be swimming in the wider last? I did try these on at waxman’s shop and they feel like slippers.

I wouldn’t ski anything other than the RS at the ski hill so these would be a dedicated touring boot. That being said, a day of touring for me is realistically only 3-4k vert. I do like to ski fast but my glass knees limit my airtime these days. Will I be happy with the Pro’s performance or would I be happier in an XT3 140?

Does Lange have a new and improved touring boot coming next year?

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Whats up with this 99mm last?
I’ve been in 97mm Lange RS130s forever and they seem to fit quite well, will I be swimming in the wider last? I did try these on at waxman’s shop and they feel like slippers.

I wouldn’t ski anything other than the RS at the ski hill so these would be a dedicated touring boot. That being said, a day of touring for me is realistically only 3-4k vert. I do like to ski fast but my glass knees limit my airtime these days. Will I be happy with the Pro’s performance or would I be happier in an XT3 140?

Does Lange have a new and improved touring boot coming next year?

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To me, the xt3 140 is a hybrid resort/slack boot. I have toured 2.5k and it was fine but id much rather do it in my tour pros. The tour pro is more than adequate for bc wild snow. It only starts to show its lack of weight in variable resort conditions.

What is everyone doing to limit the auto-revert-to-ski-mode while skinning?

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Originally Posted by gwat

What is everyone doing to limit the auto-revert-to-ski-mode while skinning?

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I only had this happen when I tried an intuitiion liner, using Lange XT3 pro liners I haven't had any issues and the boot skis great.

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What is everyone doing to limit the auto-revert-to-ski-mode while skinning?

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Like jackattack, I've only ever had this happen when using an Intuition liner. I've used a couple different styles of Lange liner, all worked great. When I did chat with a bootfitter about it a few years back we got looking at the ski/tour wedge plate inside the boot and the liner for ideas. The Lange liner has a piece of very soft and very smooth fabric right where the wedge is in the boot, that assumably reduces the friction against the wedge so the movement of the liner doesn’t move it and flip the boot into ski mode. We came up with a few ideas that might be worth to trying out if you're so inclined:

1. Stick some sort of smooth slippery tape to the plastic wedge in the boot. That wedge has a bunch of holes in it, so maybe that’s exacerbating the rougher liner material of the Intuition grabbing on to and able to move it?
2. Another thought was the same, but different: cover the liner with something like K-Tape, which would be smoother and more slippery, and also smooth out the stitch rib in that area of the Intuition, making that less likely to grab onto that wedge.
3. Put a rear spoiler (shim, cuff, whatever you wanna call it) in there, that’s just slightly thicker than the ski/tour wedge, and would hold the liner away from the wedge just enough to give it room and not let the liner move the wedge.

^ thanks.

I think SoVT Joey skis Zipfit liners in his, and I don't recall ever seeing anything from him about having this issue. So maybe it's really ONLY an Intuition liner problem?

My oem liners are beat. Getting some foamy injected liners from a friend. Looked at zipfits and want them but they cost more than a new pair of boots.

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Originally Posted by Full Trucker

I think SoVT Joey skis Zipfit liners in his, and I don't recall ever seeing anything from him about having this issue. So maybe it's really ONLY an Intuition liner problem?

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Zipfits in mine and it only takes a few strides to lock. I'll experiment with tape and a shim...

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My oem liners are beat. Getting some foamy injected liners from a friend. Looked at zipfits and want them but they cost more than a new pair of boots.

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I've got a pair of never skied and never baked Dual 3D Liner "FULL" from my 130 XT3 (regular, not the Tour Pro) that I'd let go for $120 shipped. They're 100g (?) heavier than the liner form the Tour Pro, but they ski a lot better. Shoot me a PM if you're interested.

I have had the problem. I started keeping my upper cuffs tight and that seemed to stop it. Also keep powder cuffs above the latch so nothing is rubbing on it. Someone put snaps on the tether and a snap on the shell to snap it open.


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The stock liner and intuition was definitely worse than the Zipfit. I think the Zipfit is slipperier then the others.


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Originally Posted by SoVT Joey

I have had the problem. I started keeping my upper cuffs tight and that seemed to stop it. Also keep powder cuffs above the latch so nothing is rubbing on it. Someone put snaps on the tether and a snap on the shell to snap it open.


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That snap was a cool mod but yeah I haven’t found it necessary with the xt3 pro liner.

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Originally Posted by Full Trucker

I've got a pair of never skied and never baked Dual 3D Liner "FULL" from my 130 XT3 (regular, not the Tour Pro) that I'd let go for $120 shipped. They're 100g (?) heavier than the liner form the Tour Pro, but they ski a lot better. Shoot me a PM if you're interested.

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thx, appreciated. But I think I am gonna try out the foam injection thing, we will see. Mine are the 140 flex but not sure how much of that is liner. Love the boots, but they are definitely taking a beating. Trying to revive them.