So his daughter was waiting at the bottom? Heart breaking.
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So his daughter was waiting at the bottom? Heart breaking.
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Compare that with this from caic to get a clear idea where he went. His final loation is not visible in the pic
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Wow! Skiing this line, in the current snowpack. Just ... wow.Quote:
Originally Posted by adrenalated
... Thom
My exact thoughts. Vibes to all involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by galibier_numero_un
I've sold more full backcountry set ups to older, experienced (self admittedly in-bounds) skiers this season than any other demographic.
I believe, this group is at a particularly elevated risk this season. They are approaching retirement age (aka lots of extra time), well-funded, and have the desire to avoid the COVID crowds in the resort. My dad is one of the these folks. I've had to talk him out of going solo touring on, "terrain he skied a hundred times when berthoud was a ski resort."
I just try my best to remind folks that education the the best way to avoid avalanches and to stay safe out there.
RIP Darek Krol. Vibes to all who knew him.
That's interesting and scary.Quote:
Originally Posted by ASmileyFace
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Big difference between evaluating hazards in spring mountaineering season vs. early winter in a continental snowpack. Also (as we all know) plenty of people with years of experience make mistakes (usually getting away with it, occasionally not).Quote:
Originally Posted by powdork
From the report it didn't sound like gear or a partner would have helped (aside from helping SAR with the recovery). The main problem was skiing that line in the current conditions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
Obviously a talented guy, putting up 5.13b routes in his late 50s is impressive. RIP.
Yeah but we're not, or at least I'm not talking about that level of experience. I'm talking about having enough experience to know to check the forecast. Enough to know that three people had died in the recent week as a result of the sketchy pack.Quote:
Originally Posted by teledad
One thing that has been biting at me as well is the possibility of having a few beers. Holiday weekend hanging out at the pass with the family. I would be.
There's really no place in this thread for a baseless accusation about drug-induced impairment being responsible.
A lot of people are more principled than you when it comes to saving intoxicants for AFTER they've finished their ski days. Touring and impaired judgement don't mix. Leave that shit at home. The beers don't get cracked until the truck is unloaded, the gear is put away, and I'm out of my ski clothes.
While, I agree with you about the victim and the beers thing, a commitment to having the truck unloaded before wetting the whistle is robbing yourself of one of the simple pleasures of skiing.
I don't give a shit what you think about it. People still do it all the time. And it seems like this may not have been a day touring, but a day spent with the family where he then decide to go for a short tour. It wasn't an accusation unless you think there is something sinful about having beers with your family. It's not meant to defame him. By all accounts he seems like an awesome selfless character that inexplicably made a very poor decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by glademaster
And by your standards I could never have any beer at all. Everything except the ski pants stays in the car, 12 months a year. The boots come out when I buy new boots.
This is spot on and super scary. This combined with the most dangerous snowpack in a decade is gonna make for too many similar incidents this season. Gotta hope that this string of 4 avy deaths in 9 days gets some people's attention to scale it back, but I also think this info doesn't really get through to those most likely to put themselves in this kinda situation. Kinda like everything else, so many of us live in bubbles of it won't happen to me and confirmation bias. Its kinda the attitude of.... "of course its stupid and dangerous for others to text and drive, but I'm such an amazingly talented driver, I'm the only one on the planet who can safely pull it off, so it's ok when I do it."Quote:
Originally Posted by ASmileyFace
^^^^ Yep
Colorado early season pits not infrequently collapse before any taps.
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That's your guys' "snowpack"?
Yep. Pack is a misnomer this year.