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I'm waiting for Candide's video.Quote:
Originally Posted by AK47bp
It's not that you suck at skiing moguls - you suck at skiing. The moguls just prove it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
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I learned to ski bumps pretty well (early high school, late 80’s, so cal, mammoth, and a warm spring break in aspen) before I learned to ski heavy deep maritime fresh snow. I applied the dynamics of absorption and unweighting learned from bump bashing to “figure” out how to ski deep snow. For me, that style of powder skiing has the same dynamics as the bashing style of bump skiing.
I find several quick laps of bump lines to be a good warm-up. Friends and I used to do it off the wildcat chair at Alta and the lower parks of Lincoln mountain at mammoth while waiting for chair 22 to open.
my brain is getting softer and smoother, but i found the video. The whole thing is a classic, but the sequence with the great bump line skiing starts at 2:48Quote:
Originally Posted by bodywhomper
Double, double, triple, double, double, triple, double, double, double.
It's a strategy.
>> Hang on...Quote:
Originally Posted by joecoffee
How many days do you *typically* ski in a season?
Did you learn skiing as an adult?
You hafta go at least once a week. More would be better.
I like skiing bumps now. Started learning as an old man.
As said, it is often the best skiing at resort.
A bit of a workout, sweating by the bottom. It's a great feeling when the swing and angulation all mesh together.
Hockey stop training is key. Upper body kinda aggressive. Don't fly off top of bumps, push tips down into troughs.
Generally have more fun skiing tops of bumps, sorta thing. Mostly "shop for turns".
Only time get close to zipper line, is in spring, with corny hero snow.
Spring is great time for bump skiing, imho.
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"Whoa" ~ Neo from the MatrixQuote:
Originally Posted by bodywhomper
^^ It's the one percent that sucks.Quote:
That's actually the usual result of my strategy: Straighlining.Cracked a couple ribs that way once. But it works like 99% of the time.
My strategy is to just ski Targhee and the Backcountry.
And the Village for an hour on 12” + days.
Ha! Chuck, pre-Folsom, pre-Pit Viper ripping on Mojo 105s. AmazingQuote:
Originally Posted by bodywhomper
Even the village gave up on bumps.
Thunder gets groomed regularly.
I always hate how they take them out of summer storage and don't put them back the right way. Fucks with my mojo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirshredalot
To the MFing road!Quote:
Originally Posted by AK47bp
I just put one foot in front of the other.
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Well, flying off the tops is really fun when you get the right air.Quote:
Originally Posted by TurxSki
But seriously, when I start getting behind and the bumps are winning, that second part is my mantra to get my shit together. Extend your skis down into the troughs, really fucking fast. Then turn your hips, really fucking fast. The first gets you under control because you can now start edging on the shoulder before you hit full gravity, and the second sets you up to get out before the bottom. Those are my clues when I'm going fast and and losing the thread. Do that a few times and you get back on top of the bronco. Except when you are too far gone. Then you just keep your legs springy, point downhill, and hope you straightline out before you crack the aforementioned rib.
Extend into the troughs, turn your hips fast.
I once asked Randy "The Hammer" Grosso this same question. He just replied, "Be like wattah."
SFD
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Shit. Yes. Hockey stop with solid pole plant! Thanks for the reminder!Quote:
Originally Posted by evasive_MT
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So true! If you can’t shred bumps you can’t truly shred and everyone who can shred bumps is just a straight up ripper.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirshredalot
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Originally Posted by Benny Profane
the TRUTH about moguls.....
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It is fun to see into everyone's heads - how they perceive their bumps skiing with words. There's not too much time for the mental chatter while actually skiing bumps, is there?
I'm a sh!tty bump skier for the most part so I self coach a lot, just one thing at a time...I really like the cue to push those tips down on the other side of the bump (and lift the heels) - get a really good start on the next turn.
A simple drill I love is to perch on one bump and go straight into the back of the next one. Let the bump push your knees up and see how you really can control speed from that action alone. Magical...
Anyway, I like this thread, it's got so many good things to think about, got me excited to ski! :D
Been there and still there ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Abol98
Hard to Extend your skis down into the troughs when you didn't pull the knees up in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by EWG
I thought I was using my legs and absorbing ... the video didn't lie though. I try to exaggerate that now and it has helped.
Oh and #1, I was afraid of getting my skis sideways in the trough. Afraid it would throw me sideways and/or cause a knee explosion or something like that.
Buttering the mogul, one knee in front (in the pocket) of the other, as the ski hits the end of the trough and rides up the hump -- that has helped me a lot.
I still suck at them though. More practice.
Try and stay out of the operating room
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Find bumps that match your skis and pace
E.g. New England bumps suck. Short skis and hyper skiers that make quick turny turns like a furious masterbator.
You can always spot the NE born and bred skiers out west. turn, turn, turn, turn.
Eventually they learn turn, aaaand, turn, aaaand, turn, and flow and relaxxx
Wild West bumps, that's the best. Plus they're generally not an icy man-made skate park.
Someday I'd like to try my hand at New England bumps with an actual narrow and short bump ski.
Over the years I watched the bump lines disappear at my old hill in the midwest...Boston Mills mane'. The last few seasons I was there I remember the bumps frequently being groomed down a to line that was less than 10 bumps long. It would usually turn into a single bump line starting with 3-4 normal bumps before the turn radius opened up and the bumps disappeared.Quote:
Originally Posted by Core Shot
One guy's technique during this time was so funny to watch. He had long park skis with a healthy forward mount and super short poles. He'd pick up so much speed through the first few bumps, things would fall begin to apart from here. At this point his pole plants would be at a totally different cadence than his turns, but he'd keep it going 10 "turns" past the last bump. Looked like he was playing the drums with his ridiculously short poles, or an anxious child furiously stabbing at the snow in the lift line. He'd do this over and over, so for most of the season the only bumps were from him...And then there was the guy who'd ski bumps in his white Absolute Vodka branded one piece.
After some spring storms would come through the better skiers would start skiing bumps and the field would grow a level of consistency. It would corn up nice and we'd ski the troughs down to the grass.
Holy frig, attacked and called out as a furious massdebater. Mass sucks! (Wicked funny, bub.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Core Shot
ski very stiff skis and just straightline over the tops of them.
You can’t learn to ski bumps on snow! You gotta put in the miles on dirt first!
Donna Weibrecht wrote a little article in Ski in ‘92 or ‘94 before the olympics about the importance of pole planting, and how that motion is elbows-down, mostly wrist, and that helped me immensely with posturing and body position. A quiet upper body isn’t something to strive for after you work on the feet, it’s a fundamental posture that your lower body movements stem from.
Compression, extension, loose tails, pole plants. It’s just that easy!
chuck and almost all the pit viper crew was workin for the 9 when i showed upQuote:
Originally Posted by alpinevibes
thanks fer that smile
my stratogies ussually involves
gittin high
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above and away from overskied terrain and the people who overski it
Just like all things sking. Point Them down the Fall line and deal with it as it comes. Be a legend in your own mind
This. 20s I bashed bumps with brute force, 30s stopped skiing bumps due to knees, 40s started skiing them again with my kids with more finesse less trauma and slower speeds. Smooth is the key and you can ski bumps without abusing your knees.Quote:
Originally Posted by snojones
I think someone already said it but yeah, look farther down the hill. Bumps are a great place to practice this.
I knew this would happen when Epic went under.
Style evolution:
Fwiw my favorite is Janne...
I love em all, but my favorite era is Janne.
Seems to me the advent of snowboarding created big changes in the shape of bumps fields.
Gone are the nice round moguls
Instead there’s a series of triangular-shaped ridges running more or less parallel down the fall line
Sorta makes the legacy technique useless, no?
Janne's girlfriend went to MSU in the 90's so me and my friends got to ski with him frequently at Bridger Bowl for a few years. It was surreal to think why we were skiing with a WC champ in some small MT town that had not jumped the shark yet.
There was a big language barrier but the guy was nice and fun to ski with.
Fkna, jealous.Quote:
Originally Posted by muted