While I never saw the original line-up, I did catch Van Halen (Haggar?) on the Balance tour when it hit Civic Stadium. I think it was my first concert, ever. Eddie melted faces even then.
That Poundcake video brought back some strong middle and high school memories.
10-06-2020, 06:08 PM
east or bust
First concert of my life was Valen Halen at Continental Airlines Arena. Still remember the Panama performance clear as day.
RIP
10-06-2020, 06:28 PM
CountryFunk
1978, leaving the bay area to ski Alpine at 430 am with 3 buddies. We fired up a J and put in the cassette of a new band that was on the radio called Van Halen ... never will forget that drive.
10-06-2020, 06:40 PM
SkiBall
Sure that wasn’t an 8track?
10-06-2020, 06:43 PM
m2711c
oh.... i thought his name was van hagar.
10-06-2020, 06:48 PM
hatchgreenchile
Eddie Van Halen has died
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Originally Posted by Marshall Tucker
Classmate from boarding/reform school could play eruption note-for-note. this was 1980. He said the "flaimingo shit" on women and children (spanish fly?) He said that was the hardest. By far.
He was Amy Grant's guitarist for many years.
Spanish Fly and Eruption ... both are extremely challenging. Eruption was a game changer though - that’s when whammy bars, heavy phaser and tapping hit the mainstream.
I think the drill thing from Poundcake was beyond cool. Not a crazy lick ( he might use it again on the main solo) , but it stands out . He had so many unique techniques - RIP!
10-06-2020, 07:15 PM
Johnny P
Sad day indeed. The first cassette I ever bought was Diver Down. Stopped listening after Diamond Dave split. They were never the same.
10-06-2020, 07:18 PM
XXX-er
I duno anything about guitar but i read something about how he did it all without effects pedals, he was the effect ?
they been playing his stuff on CBC all day
10-06-2020, 07:27 PM
fatnslow
Waited in line overnight at Memorial Coliseum in 82' and got 12th row tripping on some window pane. Thought the glass exterior was melting around 2 am....
10-06-2020, 07:47 PM
ncskier
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Originally Posted by riser3
I was at the time the first 5 albums came out. Its history, but not really my thing anymore.
I was being facetious. It’s a joke since they had so many lineups.
10-06-2020, 07:49 PM
hatchgreenchile
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Originally Posted by XXX-er
I duno anything about guitar but i read something about how he did it all without effects pedals, he was the effect ?
All guitar players use effect pedals (a very generic, catch all term) .
Many times, effect pedals are the subtle tweak that creates the signature sound, often by adding some vague attribute to the sound, like "punch", "decay", "resonance",, etc . The Tube Screamer is a good example, it's just an overdrive pedal, but SRV turned it into one of the most desired sounds in the world. Eddie has the right combo of guitar, amps, effects & mixing to create an extremely unique sound.
Eddie used distortion, flanger, phaser and chorus throughout his career, but many of his signature sounds (ex. trem bar dives, tapping, pinch & pitch harmonics, ultrafast strumming) are pure skill, just better projected through effects.
/GuitarGeekout
10-06-2020, 08:23 PM
Ted Striker
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Originally Posted by XXX-er
I duno anything about guitar but i read something about how he did it all without effects pedals, he was the effect ?
I only know about the Diamond Dave years, but EVH definitely used pedals. There's a phase 90 and flanger (probably mxr) all over the earlier stuff.
10-06-2020, 08:45 PM
frorider
During my punk/hardcore years I had a job at a wood framed window factory in Oregon. My line boss took monthly trips to Vegas in his Camaro, powered by meth. The radio at work blasted some bullshit buttrock station during my shift, which I mostly hated, but Panama was a song in regular rotation and was the high point of my day. Eddie rocked. RIP.
10-06-2020, 08:56 PM
axebiker
He changed the way most guys like myself looked at the guitar. Profound loss...right there with someone like McConkey. GOAT. RIP.
10-06-2020, 09:16 PM
Rideski
If any real fans never gave vhiii a chance you should, here’s some amazing instrumentals in there, and Gary isn’t that bad.
This however, was from Balance. Dare you to turn the volume to 11 and hit play.
ETA not meant to be his most face melting or hardest song. Just one I love you may have missed if you didn’t give this album a try.
Summer of 1983 I was 14, my parents sent me to visit some cousins in SoCal. Crestline California. When I arrived my cousin pulled me into his room and told me to get ready we were going to sneak to a concert that weekend. The 1983 US Festival. Craziest shit I’ve ever seen. First concert first time seeing Van Halen. No concert has ever come close. There were hundreds of thousands of people there. I’ve never seen anything like it since. Of course we got busted when we got home. Well worth it.
Been revisting all night. My 10yr old self has died and is forever gone. Fuck 2020.
10-07-2020, 04:25 AM
NLM
Riding home on the bus in 9th grade, the neighborhood hippie/pot smoker chick plays the first album on cassette on her boom box. Life changing. Fast forward a couple years, Mean streets tour. Sold out Boston garden, the entire crown singing the “hey hey hey “ part to ain’t talkin bout love. Best concert of my life. Thanks VH and RIP Eddie.
10-07-2020, 06:08 AM
cdlv
Rock in Power GOAT
10-07-2020, 08:32 AM
powbmps
Some good shit on that album. Hear About it Later, Dirty Movies, etc.
I always loved "Hot For Teacher" as a showcase that Eddie was so fucking badass he could start the whole song with a ripping solo.
Weird...I always remember the drum intro...Alex was no slouch either!
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Originally Posted by liv2ski
Eruption was Van Halens calling card...
This is the song I'll (and most) will likely remember EVH's genius. I remember every single kid who owned a guitar, sitting in their room or the basement, trying to learn Eruption. And...that would have been around '84-'85 for me...so at that point, the song was out for 6 or 7 years...and it was still the "guitar part" every teenager looked to as the height of axe wizardry....might still be.
"So how did a former furnituremaker with a background in science end up making custom guitars for some of the biggest rock stars in the world, everyone from Pete Townsend to Eric Clapton to Joe Walsh to Billy Gibbons – all members of the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame? More importantly, how did he end up in Spokane?"
Pretty strong resume'.
ETA: When VH played the Monsters of Rock show in Spokane, they played in an old football stadium that was about 1/4 mile from my house. We didn't even go to the show, just us and some friends, sitting in lawn chairs in our backyard, drinking beer, enjoying the show. It was obviously very loud for us to be able to hear it so well. Van Hagar was the closing act but were preceded by Scorpions, Dokken, Metallica, and Kingdom Come. The total show was about six hours.
Sammy Hagar was in town last winter and heard that the stadium they played in was being demolished and proposed reinventing the show for this fall. Then Covid came along and any discussion of that has gone silent, as has Eddie. RIP Eddie.
Sirius XM has dedicated channel 27 Deep Tracks to Van Halen. If you have a sub check it out...been fun listening to stuff from high school. I wasn't a huge fan by any means. I know most of their catalog, and owned many at one time or another, but there is no dispute that Eddie was one of the greats.... RIP EVH
10-07-2020, 09:59 AM
Skrilla Gorilla
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Originally Posted by GoldMember
Here's a backstory to that guitar, the Frankenstrat. Guy that built it is from Spokane.
"So how did a former furnituremaker with a background in science end up making custom guitars for some of the biggest rock stars in the world, everyone from Pete Townsend to Eric Clapton to Joe Walsh to Billy Gibbons – all members of the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame? More importantly, how did he end up in Spokane?"
Pretty strong resume'.
I just feel that their catalogue has stood up against the test of time.
I mean, who couldn't like this in today's socio-political climate?
Real bummer about the passing of Edward Van Halen from this Earth. Not really surprised given his history of polysubstance "abuse" and given that he had been diagnosed with a head and neck cancer with progression to esophageal. Probably had proton beam therapy when in Germany recently, but usually at that point it's only palliative. Sad...
I still remember hearing "I'll Wait" for the first time and loving it. I was into drumming at the time and Ed's brother Alex was a significant influence for me wanting to continue to play. I don't play anymore, but in high school and the band I was part of in college focused a lot on covering Van Halen tunes.
Speaking of their Indonesian heritage, you can certainly see their mothers Indonesian heritage in Alex.
10-07-2020, 10:27 AM
Benny Profane
That comment that Gene Simmons made about Eddie is so true. Always smiling. Always having a blast.
10-07-2020, 11:01 AM
mtnjam
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Originally Posted by Benny Profane
That comment that Gene Simmons made about Eddie is so true. Always smiling. Always having a blast.
Yep, he was always smiling and recognizing fans in the audience that were truly into the music not just there to be there.
The one and only time I saw Van Halen was at the Idaho Center in Nampa, ID, although not the original Van Halen it was still pretty damned good.
Either way, I still remember Ed looking directly at me (about 10 rows back) playing along on "air guitar" and kinda laughing and getting that grin he had with a nod of approval. Kinda cool.
10-07-2020, 11:18 AM
k2skier112
I learned a little trivia today, @ 3:12, unmistakeable!
Van Halen himself would admit he was initially skeptical of contributing to Jackson’s album, wondering how much he had in common with a singer he remembered for chanting “A-B-C, easy as 1-2-3.” But Jackson had written “Beat It” as a rock song, anchored by a hard and funky ruff by guitarist Steve Lukather. When Van Halen arrived at the studio in Los Angeles, Jones told him he could improvise. Van Halen listened to “Beat It,” asked if he could rearrange the song and added a pair of solos during which, engineers would long swear, a speaker caught on fire.
As he was finishing, Jackson walked in.
“I didn’t know how he would react to what I was doing. So I warned him before he listened. I said, ‘Look, I changed the middle section of your song,’” Van Halen told CNN. “Now in my mind, he’s either going to have his bodyguards kick me out for butchering his song, or he’s going to like it. And so he gave it a listen, and he turned to me and went, ‘Wow, thank you so much for having the passion to not just come in and blaze a solo, but to actually care about the song, and make it better.’”
Van Halen worked for free, was not credited on the album and didn’t appear in the video. But his touch was undisguisable. After the record’s release, Van Halen would remember shopping in a Tower Records while “Beat It” was playing on the sound system. https://apnews.com/article/music-edd...789be08bfe3fc5
10-07-2020, 11:43 AM
liv2ski
This thread has made me smile with memories, but I still feel a real loss in my soul. Eddie was only a few years my senior and that makes me very sad. Time comes for all of us, some sooner than later. I hope you all have a lifetime of great days ahead of you, as once it is over, you're just a memory. Go make some!
10-07-2020, 11:49 AM
Benny Profane
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Originally Posted by k2skier112
I learned a little trivia today, @ 3:12, unmistakeable!
Van Halen himself would admit he was initially skeptical of contributing to Jackson’s album, wondering how much he had in common with a singer he remembered for chanting “A-B-C, easy as 1-2-3.” But Jackson had written “Beat It” as a rock song, anchored by a hard and funky ruff by guitarist Steve Lukather. When Van Halen arrived at the studio in Los Angeles, Jones told him he could improvise. Van Halen listened to “Beat It,” asked if he could rearrange the song and added a pair of solos during which, engineers would long swear, a speaker caught on fire.
As he was finishing, Jackson walked in.
“I didn’t know how he would react to what I was doing. So I warned him before he listened. I said, ‘Look, I changed the middle section of your song,’” Van Halen told CNN. “Now in my mind, he’s either going to have his bodyguards kick me out for butchering his song, or he’s going to like it. And so he gave it a listen, and he turned to me and went, ‘Wow, thank you so much for having the passion to not just come in and blaze a solo, but to actually care about the song, and make it better.’”
Van Halen worked for free, was not credited on the album and didn’t appear in the video. But his touch was undisguisable. After the record’s release, Van Halen would remember shopping in a Tower Records while “Beat It” was playing on the sound system. https://apnews.com/article/music-edd...789be08bfe3fc5
Yeah, I posted that video in music and books, commenting that I believe to this day that Beat It made that album the blockbuster it was. I remember that album release in real time, and it really took off when that second single after Thriller was released. Brought the whole white rock crowd in. And he didn't get a cent out of it!
10-07-2020, 12:23 PM
Skidog
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Originally Posted by Benny Profane
Yeah, I posted that video in music and books, commenting that I believe to this day that Beat It made that album the blockbuster it was. I remember that album release in real time, and it really took off when that second single after Thriller was released. Brought the whole white rock crowd in. And he didn't get a cent out of it!
Case of beer is the story i've heard told....true rockstar...
10-07-2020, 12:36 PM
Tri-Ungulate
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Originally Posted by mtnjam
Real bummer about the passing of Edward Van Halen from this Earth. Not really surprised given his history of polysubstance "abuse" and given that he had been diagnosed with a head and neck cancer with progression to esophageal...
Yeah, alcohol and eating pussy are both risk factors for head & neck cancer, and I have no doubt he had plenty of both.
10-07-2020, 12:41 PM
Bobcat Sig
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Originally Posted by k2skier112
I learned a little trivia today, @ 3:12, unmistakeable!
Van Halen himself would admit he was initially skeptical of contributing to Jackson’s album, wondering how much he had in common with a singer he remembered for chanting “A-B-C, easy as 1-2-3.” But Jackson had written “Beat It” as a rock song, anchored by a hard and funky ruff by guitarist Steve Lukather. When Van Halen arrived at the studio in Los Angeles, Jones told him he could improvise. Van Halen listened to “Beat It,” asked if he could rearrange the song and added a pair of solos during which, engineers would long swear, a speaker caught on fire.
As he was finishing, Jackson walked in.
“I didn’t know how he would react to what I was doing. So I warned him before he listened. I said, ‘Look, I changed the middle section of your song,’” Van Halen told CNN. “Now in my mind, he’s either going to have his bodyguards kick me out for butchering his song, or he’s going to like it. And so he gave it a listen, and he turned to me and went, ‘Wow, thank you so much for having the passion to not just come in and blaze a solo, but to actually care about the song, and make it better.’”
Van Halen worked for free, was not credited on the album and didn’t appear in the video. But his touch was undisguisable. After the record’s release, Van Halen would remember shopping in a Tower Records while “Beat It” was playing on the sound system. https://apnews.com/article/music-edd...789be08bfe3fc5
Extra fun fact since we're pulling on this thread; Fall Out Boy's cover of Beat It featured John Mayer playing Eddie's solos, he too was/is uncredited with this work (I believe).