Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties

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Originally Posted by idahospud

This was my take on it, too. Super interesting premise but it felt like it was never tied together with anything more than speculation.

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Oh FFS. While O'Neill acknowledges the rabbit holes his mind went down, there's no neat conclusion precisely because he doesn't make any claims he can't back up with documents and on-the-record statements. Unfortunately, too many documents were destroyed and too many people are dead or unwilling to talk to put a nice bow on the whole thing. That said, remember, the book implicates numerous prominent people, many of whom are still alive, in serious crimes, including perjury in a capital case, and yet precisely no one has sued O'Neill or Little Brown for defamation.

Now, if we want engage in speculation: the HAFMC, which had been operating for over 50 years, closed in July 2019 barely a month after the book was released. Make of that what you will.

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Originally Posted by HAB

4) It's a good reminder that the CIA was engaging in all kinds of wild fuckery at that point. Exactly how that touches on this case is a little hazier, and we kinda already knew that in general, but good lord.

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Like I said before, the correspondence O'Neill found between Jolly West and Sidney Gottleib is profound.

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Originally Posted by Dantheman

Like I said before, the correspondence O'Neill found between Jolly West and Sidney Gottleib is profound.

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I need to reread that part. It's been a while, and I was recovering from surgery to repair a tibial plateau fracture at the time, and was pretty drugged up myself.

So witnessed, said the Valkyrie, his commanding tones muffled through the glass. "We see all, Orhaft Stoneback. We will remember whether you kept your vow this day. Does your charge know the risks? I cannot promise their safe return. No living mortal has ever set foot in Starnheim." Is this the climax?

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Originally Posted by lafnian1990

So witnessed, said the Valkyrie, his commanding tones muffled through the glass. "We see all, Orhaft Stoneback. We will remember whether you kept your vow this day. Does your charge know the risks? I cannot promise their safe return. No living mortal has ever set foot in Starnheim." Is this the climax?

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Wow. Just wow.

What an amazing bot post.
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