Chernobyl

Podcast is worth a listen too... writer explains what scenes actually happened as shown and what changes he made. He tells story’s from accounts he couldn’t include for time


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Podcast is worth a listen too... writer explains what scenes actually happened as shown and what changes he made. He tells story’s from accounts he couldn’t include for time


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Originally Posted by buttahflake

It was 1986, Cold War was still happening, the amount of info coming out of the Soviets was minuscule. It makes perfect sense that we knew nothing about how bad it was at the time.

Did I tell y’all how much I like Jared Harris?

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Had to take an Engineering Ethics class in undergrad and I did my final report on Chernobyl. Almost every single bad practice highlighted in the class was evident a the disaster. The craziest two were that they had tried similar power down exercise near Vladivostok and nearly lost it so they hid their fuck up from even fellow operators. And the experiment itself had no safe exit.

Basically
"we are going to turn off the power and see if we can recover"
"ahhh what if we can't"
"then we will worry about that then"
"you know we are talking about nuclear reactor right..." slowly backing away

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Originally Posted by Lawless

Here's a good site with pictures from before and after the accident. Also has some video of the helicopter crashing, as well as a lot of good history.
https://imgur.com/a/TwY6q

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Great link.

The death is horrific.

Sickness, vomiting pain and burnt skin, then you start to feel better only to start having your skin fall off and your internal organs melt out your ass and mouth.

Really; I'd rather be dragon toasted.

Once exposed, nausea and vomiting will begin almost immediately, and within a short space of time your tongue and eyes will swell, followed by the rest of your body. You’ll feel weakened, as if the strength has been drained from you. If you’ve received a high dose of direct exposure - as in this scenario - your skin will blanche dark red within moments, a phenomenon often called nuclear sunburn. An hour or two after exposure, you’ll gain a pounding headache, a fever and diarrhoea, after which you’ll go into shock and pass out.After this initial bout of symptoms, there’s often a latent period during which you’ll start to feel like you’re recovering. The nausea will recede, along with some swelling, though other symptoms will remain. This latent period varies in duration from case to case, and of course it depends on the dose, but it can last a few days. It’s cruel because it gives you hope, only to then get much, much worse. The vomiting and diarrhoea will return, along with delirium. An unstoppable, excruciating pain seethes through your body, from the skin down to your bones, and you’ll bleed from your nose, mouth and rectum. Your hair will fall out; your skin will tear easily, crack and blister, and then slowly turn black.Your bones will rot, forever destroying your ability to create new blood cells. As you near the end, your immune system will completely collapse, your lungs, heart and other internal organs will begin to disintegrate, and you’ll cough them up. Your skin will eventually break down entirely, all but guaranteeing infection. One man from Chernobyl reported that when he stood up his skin slipped down off his leg like a sock. At high doses, radiation will change the very fabric of your DNA, turning you quite literally into a person other than the one you were before. And then you’ll die, in agony.

I can't touch Jack Daniels after a morning feeling like that.

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Originally Posted by AK47bp

change the very fabric of your DNA, turning you quite literally into a person other than the one you were before.

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Spooky.

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Originally Posted by AK47bp

Once exposed, nausea and vomiting will begin almost immediately, and within a short space of time your tongue and eyes will swell, followed by the rest of your body. You’ll feel weakened, as if the strength has been drained from you. If you’ve received a high dose of direct exposure - as in this scenario - your skin will blanche dark red within moments, a phenomenon often called nuclear sunburn. An hour or two after exposure, you’ll gain a pounding headache, a fever and diarrhoea, after which you’ll go into shock and pass out.After this initial bout of symptoms, there’s often a latent period during which you’ll start to feel like you’re recovering. The nausea will recede, along with some swelling, though other symptoms will remain. This latent period varies in duration from case to case, and of course it depends on the dose, but it can last a few days. It’s cruel because it gives you hope, only to then get much, much worse. The vomiting and diarrhoea will return, along with delirium. An unstoppable, excruciating pain seethes through your body, from the skin down to your bones, and you’ll bleed from your nose, mouth and rectum. Your hair will fall out; your skin will tear easily, crack and blister, and then slowly turn black.Your bones will rot, forever destroying your ability to create new blood cells. As you near the end, your immune system will completely collapse, your lungs, heart and other internal organs will begin to disintegrate, and you’ll cough them up. Your skin will eventually break down entirely, all but guaranteeing infection. One man from Chernobyl reported that when he stood up his skin slipped down off his leg like a sock. At high doses, radiation will change the very fabric of your DNA, turning you quite literally into a person other than the one you were before. And then you’ll die, in agony.

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Well, that right there is going to the top of the list of ways I don't want to go out.

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Originally Posted by buttahflake

Did I tell y’all how much I like Jared Harris?

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At least twice, butt who's counting.
I enjoyed his performance in The Terror.

Great series, albeit sobering to say the least.

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Originally Posted by neckdeep

They had protective gear. Most of the radiation deaths occurred to people exposed without any gear. Pretty much everyone who looked into the core died. That engineer, Sitnikov, who was sent onto the roof to inspect the damage died from just the few seconds he peered over the edge. For me, that was the most chilling scene. That was the real dragonfire shooting up.

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The IMGUR link shows that the miners they had dig the tunnel underneath mostly died from exposure.

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What are we looking at there ^?

The Elephant Foot.

And a guy being microwaved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_uOSImPSi8

also to mention

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25gLi5Y_PTM

lets go walk around 30yrs on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4siRRMN4Nk

Last episode was brutal.

Their bodies just slowly melting.

Just started this last night.

Eating dinner while watching was a poor decision.

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Originally Posted by AK47bp

Last episode was brutal.

Their bodies just slowly melting.

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I had to rewatch it this morning. Truly horrific stuff.

Yea. The part about not even being able to get morphine because your veins melt was a doozy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4g3FkXUhx0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxQdS0pbpKo

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Originally Posted by AK47bp

Yea. The part about not even being able to get morphine because your veins melt was a doozy.

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Liquid morphine in a dropper? Any help would be appreciated at that point I would think.

And the balls of a miner are much bigger than their nuts. And bigger than anyone in this joint I would guess. Damn.

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Originally Posted by SB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxQdS0pbpKo

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There used to be one of those on the University of Washington campus. It was a small circular building with windows around it. You could look down into the reactor pool from outside and watch the water glow blue.

Little known fun fact, only a couple miles from the city center of Gaithersburg MD there is a fully functional reactor used by NIST to irradiate experiments. I forget the rating but its there, ironically its about .5 miles from an Issack Walton league headquarters.

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Originally Posted by SB

Little known fun fact, only a couple miles from the city center of Gaithersburg MD there is a fully functional reactor used by NIST to irradiate experiments. I forget the rating but its there, ironically its about .5 miles from an Issack Walton league headquarters.

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There's a little 100 kW reactor on the University of Utah campus. It's housed in the engineering building. When I was in grad school my project had to do with neutron capture therapy (one of the many radiation therapies used in cancer treatment) and some of our compounds were tested there. Didn't get to see the reactor though...

Kodak used to have a reactor in Rochester that not many people knew about until they decided to decommission it.
https://www.democratandchronicle.com...ctor/88944080/

Jeez, what a well done mini series.

Awesome soundtrack.

Whoa, that was a heavy episode last night.

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Originally Posted by buttahflake

Whoa, that was a heavy episode last night.

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Agreed, it was very good. I'm glad they didn't spend too much time showing the cat/dog carnage and stuck with shots that suggested a lot more than they showed. I'm even more glad that they didn't make the grizzled Afghanistan veteran into a sadist and repeatedly hinted that he profoundly hates his "job" even though he's pretty callous about the whole thing. The look on the new kid's face in the last shot says it all. And the babushka with her milk? Damn... The podcast expands a bit on what she represents, it's pretty sobering.

The cat/dog/puppy killing was hard to watch.

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Originally Posted by Boissal

Agreed, it was very good. I'm glad they didn't spend too much time showing the cat/dog carnage and stuck with shots that suggested a lot more than they showed. I'm even more glad that they didn't make the grizzled Afghanistan veteran into a sadist and repeatedly hinted that he profoundly hates his "job" even though he's pretty callous about the whole thing.

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I think they did an excellent job portraying what had to have been a really really shitty job. The part with the litter of puppies was heartbreaking but I think they really showed the gravity of it and how hard it was to do and how much it took out of the soldiers doing it

Some of the best TV (movie making?) I've ever seen. Incredible.

Who needs Game of Thrones endless white walkers and useless dragons.

The pet hunting scenes...wow. Were they conducting similar hunting in the wooded areas, with the wild animals like deer and pigs/boars? Domestic animals are accustomed to humans and wouldn't run...

the 'bio-robots' bit to clear the graphite from the top roof was unreal, but also the kind of solution that was just natural to the Soviets. Frankly it's surprising to think of them ever running out of personnel.

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Originally Posted by Jumper Bones

The pet hunting scenes...wow. Were they conducting similar hunting in the wooded areas, with the wild animals like deer and pigs/boars? Domestic animals are accustomed to humans and wouldn't run...

the 'bio-robots' bit to clear the graphite from the top roof was unreal, but also the kind of solution that was just natural to the Soviets. Frankly it's surprising to think of them ever running out of personnel.

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They eradicated all domestic and wild critters in the exclusion zone...

Heavy indeed, that was a tough watch...

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Originally Posted by ACH

Heavy indeed, that was a tough watch...

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Yep, I’m not rewatching this episode.

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Yep, I’m not rewatching this episode.

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After telling my 92yo mom she should check out the series earlier in the day, I had to call her back this morning to suggest skipping this episode (i told her I would provide the highlights with some omissions).