Cool, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by reckless toboggan
Yeah, I had looked on the D3O site. They are quite explicit that they don't provide samples.Quote:
Originally Posted by reckless toboggan
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Cool, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by reckless toboggan
Yeah, I had looked on the D3O site. They are quite explicit that they don't provide samples.Quote:
Originally Posted by reckless toboggan
i keep one of the small 1 time use 5 pack versions in my pack and never had an issue with explosion or leaking, use them regularly for early dig season blistersQuote:
Originally Posted by Andeh
https://www.planetbmx.com/shop/prote....html?page=allQuote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
shinners for 37...
fwiw i find the invisilites very similar to old veggies but better in every way
how do these hold up to pins?Quote:
Originally Posted by reckless toboggan
i use tall socks as light abrasion protection on the mtb, my shin damage is usually done when hike a biking and not from pedal slips, the pins will catch the fabric rather than my flesh, a worthy trade imo, but i trash socks regularly...
The pins won't make it through the d3o in the front.Quote:
Originally Posted by forty
The calf of the sock will hold up about as well as any other sock. Learn some pushing/hike-a-bike technique.
I would not recommend this. Closing up a stitch-worthy wound in the field without irrigating it carries a high probability of trapping foreign material that will lead to infection. Carry some 2x2 and 3x4 non-stick pads and a roll of self-adhering bandage so you can cover it up well, but save closure for when you can properly irrigate and disinfect. Great for blisters, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andeh
ETA: Not that superglue would have closed up my new shin vagina, but they probably used 100 cc of saline to irrigate it, then doused it in a shitload of betadine before they closed it.
1. Buy the socks and try them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
2. If you don't like them, cut the d3o pads out.
3. Make your version using the pads from the socks.
4. Profit?
BTW, I have absolutely zero affiliation with the sock company, and don't have a dog in this fight.
I just found a solution that works for me, for trail riding and light Enduro, and I believe will work for 90% of riders out there that are over padded for the trail riding they're doing, hate taking off shoes for pads, hate suffering with hot and restrictive pads, hate heavy pads, hate uncomfortable pads that rub and dig in, want something for the climb, etc.
If you're looking for high-speed gnar-tech Enduro, shuttling, bike park, DH pads, go with a different solution.
What's the deal with the foam in the bamboo vs non-bamboo ones? They list different names, Artilage and Fluid X, but the description sounds like its the same stuff.
I have both. It seems like the same thing to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
Shin guards for xc riding? Seems like crazy talk.
OP, sorry about your injury. But seriously, that shit is never going to happen again. Lightning Strike odds.
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Thanks for being so persistent, I’m switching from clipless to flats on my 160mm bike, gonna give these a try!Quote:
Originally Posted by reckless toboggan
I got a couple pairs of the knee high bamboo charcoal socks.Quote:
Originally Posted by SchralphMacchio
Some notes:
1) As reckless toboggan pointed out, these are adequate for the job of preventing shinners while XC or trail riding. I wore them yesterday on local flow trails with less serious airs and not much super-chunk/tech stuff.
2) They are like 3/4" shy of my knee-pad bottom. I wish they were just a tad longer, for no reason other than silly weird tan lines ;) I don't actually expect a shinner that starts on the sock to slide up into that little gap anyways.
3) When I first put them on, the D30 pads were not super comfortable (stiff weird pads in front of ankle bones, just felt not super comfy), but once warmed up a bit from riding they "disappeared" and I didn't notice them anymore.
4) I didn't do too much pedaling yesterday as it was a shuttle day, but it was plenty hot (90 in the sun, high 70's under the forest canopy) and they wicked sweat very well. At no point, while I was sweating and gasping for breath, did I think to myself "these socks are too hot." My goggles were soaked and my helmet doesn't have enough vents, and I only wear full-fingered gloves regardless of what I'm riding (which were warmer than I wanted yesterday), but the socks were totally fine.
The problem is you want something with actual shin coverage not just a knee pad with a tiny extension. Luckily, there are solutions!
I use the TLD KGL 5450 and can pedal all day long in them, no chaffing. I basically wear them 100% of my time on a MTB (except when I put on burlier pads for lift served). They are super light and super protective with good shin coverage. (I also use the elbow guard version for FR and DH).
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If I wanted a detachable, the only non-slip-on knee-shin I know of that does a good job of staying put while pedaling/crashing and is a good piece of equipment is 7iDP Flex:
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It his held on very well by three straps and they are customizable to cover more or less shin depending on your day (thin protector segments removable).
OK, reading through the thread: This isn't soccer. Knee pro is far more important than shin pro.
A bad anterior shin laceration that gets you stitches and off your bike for a few weeks, the same mechanism applied around the knee gets you surgical debridement with multiple layers of stitches and staples, flexion limiting brace, crutches, and you are off your bike for three months. Just ask my wife, who now wears knee pads for 100% of her biking as a result of the aforementioned injury on an easy XC trail.
Lacs on the shin suck, but not as bad as lacs on an articulation (knee)!
That is why almost nobody makes "just shin pads" except for soccer.
More time on the concrete visionary socks ... came off a pedal today in mid air after getting bucked on a bumpy takeoff, left foot came off the pedal, weight ended up on the right crank, which spun the left pedal right into my shin right before I landed. It was a very small jump - very bouldery bumpy trail.
Success! The socks saved me from spillage of blood. I’m a fan. Definitely not for the bike park but plenty fine for trail riding on flat pedals.
What did you hit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
Were you cut or was it blunt force that split you open 14 stitches worth.
!4 stitches is blood pool in the sock wide.
Those look nice, a little more coverage on the shin and I'd be all over that. I like the backside coverage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Summit
I'm sure those socks work great, but just the thought of wearing knee-high socks in this heat makes me a little nauseous. My knee is still pretty rough, but I've already started slacking on wearing knee pads cause they're like riding in a wool sweater. Okay, that's a bit dramatic, but they're effing hot.
KGL 5450 do come down reasonably far (farther than the picture makes them look)... far enough that a calf sock can be pulled up to meet them for descending. Not much out there has more coverage unless it is designed for lifts.Quote:
Originally Posted by gravitylover
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The exception is the 7iDP Flex pad which has a little extra coverage.
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(The bottom segment is removable)
Definitely blunt force. Not sure what did it, frame or cranks seem like the most likely possibilities. There was surprisingly little blood. Enough to run down to my sock but not much more. That shot I posted in the picture thread was all there was. Fully through the skin with some visible abrasion on the bone. 8 external stitches, plus 6 subcuticular.Quote:
Originally Posted by MTT
4 weeks out now and it looks good but there is still a pretty significant healing response happening. If I don't spend an hour or two in the evening with the leg elevated my lower leg and ankle will start to swell the next day. I was back on my bike within a week, but I'm still a ways out from running any significant distance.
Like Schralp, my experience so far has been positive. One decent crash that resulted in a minor AC sprain in my right shoulder. No idea if I actually hit my shin or not in that crash, but if I did they did they job. I've also had a few rocks get kicked up by my front wheel that just missed my shin. If any of those had been on-target I would have been very happy to have the socks.Quote:
Originally Posted by bagtagley
They are warmer than a short sock, but not terribly so. Outside of the foam area the sock mesh is pretty open and breathable. Certainly far, far less hot than any full knee/shin combo available.
Summit - You're not wrong regarding the consequences of shin vs. knee lacs. But, it's still BS that no one makes an easy on/easy off shin pad that supplements knee pads.
Yup, and apart from the D30 area, they were breathable enough to allow the hordes of mosquitos at Waldo Lake last week to turn my calves into a braille training manual :fuckyou:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
For any of you who have never ridden in Oregon, Waldo Lake is notorious for hordes of mosquitos - I can't say whether it's any worse than swampy marshes of Alaska or Alberta, but it was a ton. I had sprayed shirt and all exposed areas aggressively but didn't spray enough on the back of my knee pads and socks!
So what socks are you guys using? I've been using conventional shin pads for years and my shins have mostly recovered from all of the shots they've taken. I'd like to use decent knee pads but always end up hating them after a few uses as they bunch up behind the knee. Those TLD's above look to have a nice open section where I've had the problem so something to protect the shins so I could ditch the pads would be nice.
edit: These? https://www.concrete-visionary.com/h...-foam-sewn-in/
@dantheman I think i found what you have been seeking:
Scott Grenade Evo Shin D30
Strap on for easy on/off
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Can be used with most kneepads either slipping under or strapping to (or you could add a strip of velcro). They were designed for wide compatibility, but here they are with the Scott Grenade EVO
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KGL5450 and Grenade Pro II side by side (newest version is the Grenade EVO)
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But at 600g for the kneepad pair, the Scotts are definitely heavier than the TLD pads which are under 300g for the pair if memory serves... Scotts are obviously burlier though
I went with the Bamboo Knee High ... DTM which ones did you get?Quote:
Originally Posted by gravitylover
I got the bamboo ones.
Any comment on fit? I think I'm between sizes--9.5 usually.
Smalls are just barely small enough for my feet at size 7.
I have a size 9 shoe in Adidas and Nike.
I ordered the smaller size socks.
The foot area is good (not super snug but a good fit, the sock isn't stretched out very much). I have super skinny ankles, so that part fits about the same as the foot in general, good fit, but not stretched very much. Most of my shin / calf above the ankle stretches out the sock pretty good to where it feels like a good knee high technical running sock. Not the super tight running compression socks, but a nice technical/supportive running sock.
The seam or elastic that makes up the very top of the sock is somewhat snug and stretched out to almost it's limits on my calf and lower knee area. But they stretch out to fit. I have pretty normal / proportional calves. Not huge Scottish calves, not chicken legs. Probably a little skinny-er than most skiers/bikers my size.
do you also bind your children's feet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
I got the socks. I wish the padding strip was wider, but it does cover all my current pedal strike scars.
I love the feel of the foot area of the sock. The ankle things don't really sit in the right place though, and the socks have to stretch quite a bit to fit my Amazon legs, but they aren't uncomfortable.
Heh. Not only are they size 7, they're EE width. More of a flipper than a foot, really.Quote:
Originally Posted by b-bear
You think it's too late for a career change to Judo champion? :)
I think you missed your true calling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
For a mountain biker you must be a hell of a swimmer.
Thanks for the sock beta. I got the small and they're certainly not tight on my feet, but will be compression-wear on the calves--for as long as the elastic holds out. One ride won't surprise me, but if they stay in place I'm good with it.
Also bought a pair of their "Street" knee pads, and at $30 for a pair of light-feeling pads I'm not disappointed. Definite step up from G-form etc but I think they'll pedal well enough to wear. Adjustable straps above and below, better coverage than it looked like on their site and the back is open in the middle with light stretchy mesh above and below. Soon as the road rash lets me I'll post a report, but so far the only thing that's disappointing is that there is no silicone gripper anywhere on them. To be expected at $30 and if they stay put I'll be happy. Impressive use of the non-Newtonian foam without jacking up the price.
Those TLD pads look pretty nice.
Been using these, big fan for enduro-ish riding: https://7protection.com/us/product/transition-knee/ They're light and flexible enough that you forget you're wearing them.
Those do look pretty good for the price. It's funny how all their protection gear is advertised as being able to be worn under clothes without being noticed. Skaters have fragile egos, apparently.Quote:
Originally Posted by jono
Yeah that amused me, too. I'd rather have my clothes under the pads, but I guess ripped jeans are perennially cool.
Every video I recall of Semenuk, he's wearing what looks like skinny jeans with a bunch of pads inside. If it works for Brandon, I'm guessing it's not because of vanity.
I just got a pair of these and used them for the first time last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Summit
I haven't tried every pad but compared to every other pad I've tried that can be removed without taking off shoes, these are by far the most secure/stable. There are a bazillion velcro straps but the end result works - these stay in place like a high end slip-on pad, not like a typical wrap pad.
I rode in them with the shin protector removed and likely will run them that way most of the time, adding the extender for bike park or shuttle days, or enduro races. They do have more upper shin coverage than most pads even with the extender removed. It takes about 10 seconds to attach the shin extender if you want it. The level of protection, with or without the shin extender, is excellent.
They are not ideal to pedal in. The cup over the kneecap is hard plastic, the strap under the knee is pretty high (which helps makes them extremely secure but can chafe a little when pedaling), and they are hot. Definitely the kind of pad you strap to your pack and put on at the top. Since they're longer than most pads they're not ideal for pulling down to your ankles either.
Most of my riding involves a long climb to a long, rowdy descent and they're pretty great for that. If your riding is more rolling or you prefer to ride without a pack, you can find something better.
Damnit. I still have a bump on my shin from a rock strike in May, and just got another one. Still not sure what my best choice is. Leaning soccer pads or those socks as an addition to my POC knee pads on trails with lots of loose rock that seem to really like my shins...
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