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04-19-2018, 06:21 PM
tyfattori

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Originally Posted by gregL

Go back to page 2 and read the comments about the X Pro's suitability for touring.

Yeah I read I’ll hate them and to get a boot with walk mode sorry I didn’t see that until now.
04-19-2018, 06:22 PM
tyfattori

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Chupacabra

Well, with ottime and I (and others) recommend, you could buy a frame binding + ski (used, already mounted) here for $400 or less, and be done. Or you could wait, and buy Salomon's $1000 first year model convertible touring/alpine binding made mostly of plastic, and then mount it on some skis.

http://images5.fanpop.com/image/phot...87-360-270.jpg

Got you I’ll stick to a frame binding and get it all used and go from there.
04-19-2018, 06:31 PM
XXX-er

If you happen to be buying a used frame binding remember all frame binding come in different sizes depending on the BSL of your boot which is stamped on the bottom ... important shit to know
04-19-2018, 06:57 PM
tyfattori

I'm going to go with a used frame binding for sure. I did read that actually while doing some research but thank you for confirming that.
04-19-2018, 07:16 PM
XXX-er

I got my son into his 1st BC setup from 800kms away, I think he spent about 1500can$

using texts I sent him to a few dealers I had googled to try on Maestrale/Zero G guide pro/ Lang until he found the best boot for HIS foot ... the ZeroG guide pro

I found him a used 2 yr old rossi super 7 / rad1/ skin setup on MEC used gear site for about 800

which is the going fall price for a good used BC setup in BC

this time of year knock off 150$

we did our 1st father/son BC trip last feb and it all worked prefectly .
04-19-2018, 08:29 PM
Ottime

AT Setup

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregL

A frame binding will work if you are super fit or your partners really slow, only really tour a few times a season, or only plan to own one pair of skis. You can also probably find some cheap. The X Pros, on the other hand, will not seem like such a good idea after 20 minutes of skinning . . . get something with a walk mode.

I don’t know the X pros, but I skied in a full alpine boot (Solly Gun) for several years with no big issue. It is not a super stiff boot, but I would just in latch the top buckles and loosen the power strap.

If you are going to buy new boots for touring, the. I’d. It bother with frame bindings.

Either inserts or plates to switch from
Alpine to pin bindings. Or two sets of skis

But what I’d do is buy the used frame binding, and go to Japan. Don’t worry too much about the boot. See if you like touring. If you do, tour again some time. If you find you want to do it more often, start investing in the gear you want. Boots with walk mode and tech inserts (eventually, we all go to pins). Sounds like Shift will be good for you, once they work out the kinks.

Or you could rent skis and skins in Japan. I assume. And get something fat.

But as el chup pointed out, you could get powder skis mounted with frame bindings in here for about $400 and be done with it for now.
04-20-2018, 05:22 AM
tyfattori

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ottime

I don’t know the X pros, but I skied in a full alpine boot (Solly Gun) for several years with no big issue. It is not a super stiff boot, but I would just in latch the top buckles and loosen the power strap.

If you are going to buy new boots for touring, the. I’d. It bother with frame bindings.

Either inserts or plates to switch from
Alpine to pin bindings. Or two sets of skis

But what I’d do is buy the used frame binding, and go to Japan. Don’t worry too much about the boot. See if you like touring. If you do, tour again some time. If you find you want to do it more often, start investing in the gear you want. Boots with walk mode and tech inserts (eventually, we all go to pins). Sounds like Shift will be good for you, once they work out the kinks.

Or you could rent skis and skins in Japan. I assume. And get something fat.

But as el chup pointed out, you could get powder skis mounted with frame bindings in here for about $400 and be done with it for now.

This actually sounds like a better idea. I'm going to look for a used frame binding and forget new boots for now. I'm going to keep my eye out on here for a powder setup with frame bindings or just frame bindings, ski them for a season and go from there.
04-20-2018, 11:07 AM
LeeLau

Useful actionable advice from TGR and someone who's taking the advice? Nice to see
04-20-2018, 11:23 AM
rocca

OP - I just pulled some large barons if your bsl will work. Older model in good shape with 130 brakes. Might have some smaller brakes somewhere too. Shoot me a pm if you're interested. I'll let them go cheap.
04-20-2018, 11:32 AM
XXX-er

the time to buy used stuff is right NOW I seen a really nice set of lotus 120 for 150$ less than I would have payed 6 months ago ... but I already have 2 pair

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeeLau

Useful actionable advice from TGR and someone who's taking the advice? Nice to see

and on that note I advise you to buy those lotus 120's,

like Ross sez ... slarve not carve !
04-20-2018, 04:59 PM
tyfattori

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocca

OP - I just pulled some large barons if your bsl will work. Older model in good shape with 130 brakes. Might have some smaller brakes somewhere too. Shoot me a pm if you're interested. I'll let them go cheap.

I'm going to send you a PM now.

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Originally Posted by XXX-er

the time to buy used stuff is right NOW I seen a really nice set of lotus 120 for 150$ less than I would have payed 6 months ago ... but I already have 2 pair

and on that note I advise you to buy those lotus 120's,

like Ross sez ... slarve not carve !

Did they come with any bindings?
04-20-2018, 05:04 PM
tyfattori

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeeLau

Useful actionable advice from TGR and someone who's taking the advice? Nice to see

Thanks to everybody for the help. It'll help me save some money and put it towards my Alaska fund anyways so that helps me a lot. Relocating within the next 2 years hopefully before my 29th birthday, that's the goal at least.
04-20-2018, 05:40 PM
3PinGrin

I just want to say that it is refreshing to see a new member (not that I have been here all that long) with an actual non-default handle that actually follows up on the advice given, asks more questions, etc. Good on you tyfattori!
04-20-2018, 05:51 PM
hafjell

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3PinGrin

I just want to say that it is refreshing to see a new member (not that I have been here all that long) with an actual non-default handle that actually follows up on the advice given, asks more questions, etc. Good on you tyfattori!

Yes.

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04-20-2018, 09:47 PM
tyfattori

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3PinGrin

I just want to say that it is refreshing to see a new member (not that I have been here all that long) with an actual non-default handle that actually follows up on the advice given, asks more questions, etc. Good on you tyfattori!

Thanks a lot! I’m happy I joined this forum.
04-21-2018, 09:28 AM
hutash

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Originally Posted by tyfattori

Thanks a lot! I’m happy I joined this forum.

Give it time...you'll regret it:fm:
04-22-2018, 08:20 AM
Ottime

^^^^ seriously. This thread is missing snark.
04-22-2018, 08:59 AM
MultiVerse

^^^ Alternate thread tittle: Best AT Setup for Guided Roadside Attractions in AK or Japan?

No need for a full blown touring setup, just something for staged pics to post on Instagram. Must work well for 98% inbounds and 2% sidestash.
04-23-2018, 07:47 PM
tyfattori

Quote:

Originally Posted by MultiVerse

^^^ Alternate thread tittle: Best AT Setup for Guided Roadside Attractions in AK or Japan?

No need for a full blown touring setup, just something for staged pics to post on Instagram. Must work well for 98% inbounds and 2% sidestash.

No Instagram sorry bud.
04-23-2018, 07:48 PM
tyfattori

Quote:

Originally Posted by flowing alpy

on a limited budget

Gotta start somewhere.
04-26-2018, 09:44 AM
GoldMember

I'll throw in my two cents. I'm 5 11, 180, skied for 51 years and have been touring for the past nine. I'm using F12 on a 9 DIN on two different alpine skis with alpine boots with a walk mode. They've worked fine for me. The stack height is a bit different but not a major problem. Disclaimer is that I also have two pure alpine setups that I ski in-area but it doesn't bother me to ski the touring gear in-bounds.
04-26-2018, 09:55 AM
blackalps

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldMember

I'll throw in my two cents. I'm 5 11, 180, skied for 51 years and have been touring for the past nine. I'm using F12 on a 9 DIN on two different alpine skis with alpine boots with a walk mode. They've worked fine for me. The stack height is a bit different but not a major problem. Disclaimer is that I also have two pure alpine setups that I ski in-area but it doesn't bother me to ski the touring gear in-bounds.

I assume you're just doing laps in one spot rather than longer tours?
04-26-2018, 10:30 AM
GoldMember

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Originally Posted by nomad_games

I assume you're just doing laps in one spot rather than longer tours?

Mostly, yes. However, we did one trip up Mt. St. Helens but mostly boot-packed on the way up. We also did a three day hut trip with six hours on skins the first day and about 4 hours the second day but got rained out the last part of that day and the next. But yes, mostly out the gates at Schweitzer for half-days.

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