You, as usual, are wildly misinformed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny Satch
Vaccines are excellent exercise for your immune system.
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You, as usual, are wildly misinformed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny Satch
Vaccines are excellent exercise for your immune system.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunityQuote:
Originally Posted by Kenny Satch
Many who need it can't get it for a number of reasons, hence the need to inoculate everyone.
Wife got shot and got sick. I did not, and have not. But knocking on wood nonetheless.
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Originally Posted by PNWbrit
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Originally Posted by Kenny Satch
Fetal position in corner of dark room.Quote:
Originally Posted by KQ
Did I have the flu or a cold?
5 weeks. Weak, tired, stuffy nose/sinus congestion, mucus cough, no fever but was "cold"
Life is scary man.......Quote:
Originally Posted by riser3
Kinda what I had in a shorter time frame and minus the cough. Frontal sinuses were congested but did not have a stuffy nose. Def. felt chilled on several occasions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinnikinnick
This thread brings the lulz from all angles. I've watched people die from complications related to influenza, some younger than 60 and otherwise healthy with unremarkable medical histories. Even if it is only 10% effective, why would you not want to reduce your chances of getting the flu by 10%? I hope for the sake of your loved ones as well as the taxpayers you dummies don't end up in the MICU on ECMO. It doesn't look pleasant and costs a little more than the influenza vaccine.
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My work makes it stupid easy/convenient to get a free flu shot. I would be dumb not to take advantage.
Probably neither one. Some sort of upper respiratory infection, probably a virus. I had a thing like that last June/July, 6 weeks easy. My brother had the same thing. The "weak" part was huge in mine, I could hardly fucking move. I'd start feeling like I was all right and I'd get up to do something and have to sit back down after like 30 seconds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinnikinnick
Did some reading on the flu pandemic of 1918 the other day. It resulted in the deaths of 50 to 100 million (three to five percent of the world's population), making it one of the deadliest natural disasters in human history.
Interesting how the virus attacked the young & healthy by turning their healthy immune system against them:
There are several possible explanations for the high mortality rate of the 1918 influenza pandemic. Some research suggests that the specific variant of the virus had an unusually aggressive nature. One group of researchers recovered the virus from the bodies of frozen victims, and found that transfection in animals caused a rapid progressive respiratory failure and death through a cytokine storm (overreaction of the body's immune system). It was then postulated that the strong immune reactions of young adults ravaged the body, whereas the weaker immune systems of children and middle-aged adults resulted in fewer deaths among those groups.[11]
1918 flu pandemic
Yeah figured a non-flu virus. Been kinda hoping that I'd already had the flu so I don't have a chance of adding Flu to the list of recent trials and tribulations in upcoming weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
They do offer a intra nasal optionQuote:
Originally Posted by Vt-Freeheel
It happens every day to many people still. Ya know there are too many people in the world, so something has to keep us in check. We can keep fighting, but we're all gonna lose in the end. The question is when and how. Hopefully not from fat little korean and a cheeto.Quote:
Originally Posted by KQ
;)
Me and the Mrs. got flu shot. So did my little bro and his wife. So for, knocking on wood, I have not been laid low by the flu. It got my wife, my bro and SIL. But it has also laid waste to the company I work for. And most people got the flu shot, but as has been mentioned it's the wrong strain. Can't get it right all the time. One person in my dept. was in the hospital for 3 days it was so bad. She was out almost two weeks, and just came back today. Wash those hands with soap, and don't touch anything! Now, where's my can of Lysol!?
The nasal spray flu vaccine (live attenuated influenza vaccine or LAIV) should not be used during 2017-2018.Quote:
Originally Posted by cmcrawfo
Deadly flu sweeps across Texas
"Of the 1,155 deaths, 895 involved people ages 65 and over, and there were four flu-related pediatric deaths reported."Quote:
Originally Posted by KQ
Geez...horrible.
That's what Tide Pods are for, apparently.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackstraw
wtf! I had to look that up.Quote:
Originally Posted by TahoeJ
Me too. And speaking of wtf, wtf? Gronk?Quote:
Originally Posted by jackstraw
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Is that why you decided to post?Quote:
Originally Posted by PNWbrit
WTF... there are frozen corpses just sitting there for the science...Quote:
Originally Posted by KQ
People died from that flu way up North in the Arctic, like in Svalbard, and they somehow buried them in permafrost and they've been frozen ever since and they've been getting exhumed now for research.Quote:
Originally Posted by grskier
By Al Gore with a hair dryer?
I remembered this article, but holy fuck it's 20 years old! Look at the memory on this kid here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rideski
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1.../the-dead-zone
Iceman drops knowledge in jeansQuote:
Originally Posted by iceman
Thank you for your concern.
I have had the Vaccines about 6 times the past 20 years. Had what I am sure was influenza 2x.
I believe in Vaccines for disease such as Polio, Measles etc where you have the Vaccine and are pretty well done.
A Vaccine for a different strain every year? I will pass, thank you again.
It's good he's speaking out against it. He did commercials for them apparently? He sure is capitalizing on his fame while he has it.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
I make the saul rosenberg voice from Jerky Boys and say oooohhhh my gawd, how dare you!Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
It slays with the RNz.
Iceman knows icemen.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
Two separate scientific expeditions recovered tissue samples from victims buried in permafrost in Norway and Alaska. More clues were obtained from lung tissue from a first world war soldier, discovered in a pathology warehouse in Washington DC.
The pic on the article of policemen wearing masks provided by the American Red Cross in Seattle, 1918Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
I got a flu shot this year, and I did not get the flu.
Then you, Sir, are winning!
Go be fat and ignorant if Panama.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSilverSurfer
FIFY :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Harry
Hope you don't
Last time I had the flu (25 years ago?) I had a flu shot.
as someone else pointed out, it's e temporary vaccine targeted to a specific strain. I'd rather take my chances that my immune system and common sense will protect me.
Also questionable are people who overuse hand sanitizer and lysol. Some of the sickest people I know.
Let’s add one more piece of anecdotal evidence to the statistics: I didn’t get the flu shot, and I’ve had an annoying respiratory infection for 2 weeks. Leveled me for a couple days and cough/exhaustion levels are just now manageable.
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According to that synopsis of the article, it was the pig fuckers who created the Spanish fluQuote:
Originally Posted by iceman
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Taubenberger says the flu may be an avian flu transmitted by dicks to pigs, and through a joining of the avian flu with a swine flu, to people..
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Originally Posted by Kenny Satch
exactly. That's how vaccines work. By stimulating and strengthening the immune system. And in general the immune system is not one thing. You can have strong immunity against one thing and no immunity against another. So getting a vaccine for one disease does not in any way weaken or affect your immunity against another. In addition, for things like the flu even if you do skip the vaccine, get the flu, and it runs it's course, leaving you protected against that strain, you are no more protected against the next strain of flu you encounter. You can conceivably contract influenza more than once in a season, from different strains.Quote:
Originally Posted by zartagen
Which is why we should be spending a lot more money trying to develop a better vaccine, given the death toll, misery, and economic cost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Not bunion
The flu is tough to understand. First of all it is not a reportable disease. The CDC lists deaths from influenza and pneumonia as a group--pneumonia can have many other causes besides influenza. (Which reminds me, all you old fucks get your pneumococcal vaccine--supposedly life long protection although recently they developed a better vaccine and started revaccinating people). Most influenza is never confirmed by blood testing. Many flu sufferers never see a doctor. Doctors can't always tell for sure without a blood test. People's individual experience--I got the vaccine and got flu--may or may not be valid. Many people call any winter infection flu.
The symptoms of flu are fever, headache, dry cough, muscle aches, prostration (very weak, not wanting to get out of bed), light bothering the eyes. People just feel really sick. The last bad case I had was back in med school; I was in bed for 3 days, decided to try and walk to work the 4th day, made it half a block and turned around and went home.
Anyone who understands how people make decisions knows that the way to get more people vaccinated is to make the vaccine something you opt out of rather than opt into. Specifically, vaccine teams should contact people at work or school and offer the vaccine. People can refuse. For minors I would still have parents opt in but would offer the vaccine at school. As it is, most older people get vaccinated, partly because of our justified fear of the disease, partly because we are at the doctor a lot more than younger people. For working adults who have no reason to go to the doctor it is a hassle to get it, to get your kids vaccinated is a bigger hassle. Research repeatedly has shown that minor increases in convenience can make very big differences in decision making.
That's like saying that you are training for a race by laying on the couch and saving your energy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny Satch
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/02/health...ger/index.html
Once again. fuck flu shots and fuck big pharma.
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