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sorry if I sounded like a douche. I know that shit hurts. been there
I thought maybe you were joking but decided you weren't. Should have given you the benefit of the doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by willywhit
One thing I learned in practice was to not judge people's pain. People surprise you. Friend of mine took care of a guy who was a world champion in a sport known for the ability of its athletes to tolerate pain. He was injured in a non-sport related incident and my friend said he was the the most complaining, difficult to manage patient she had. The emotional component is huge. With athletes, including recreational skiers like us, it's as much about our fear about when or even if we will be able to participate again as it is about the objective degree of pain. For that matter, there is no objective way to measure pain--with the possible exception of Scoville units.
yep. drunken sarcasm gets lost in translation. My dad used to call us out as kids for whining about how much it hurts. Unless you need a ride to the ER, don't tell me how hard you fell off the dirtbike, your mom hates those things. I've got a pretty high threshold for pain but when you're crippled up with back pain and the Scoville units are off the charts and you can't even sleep it's so painful, you can't tell someone to be tough, when they're almost in tears. Thank god for drugs to quell it and fix it. I've never been a fan of oxy-anything and would rather ride out the pain, most times.Quote:
Originally Posted by old goat
this plantar fascitis is just annoying, franks red hot on the scoville. It must not persist, tho. a work in progress right now. getting that shot
interesting... I dont have a strong opinion on this; however, the last time my wife broke ribs riding, our friend who is a trauma surgeon recommended strongly against more dh for a few weeks due to the risk of liver laceration. A bit outside my scope though.Quote:
Originally Posted by old goat
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Thanks for the info old goat. Taking it much easier these last days. I've had to sneeze a few times and it triggers intense painful muscle spasms that make it difficult to breathe for a minute or so. This sucks.
We docs tend to be a cautious bunch and recommend not doing a lot of stuff based on theoreticals. Sometimes it doesn't make a lot of sense--telling someone with a hernia repair not to lift over 25 pounds for 6 weeks, when the average cough or sneeze (see below) puts orders of magnitude more stress on the repair. If you had a bunch of rib fractures with a flail segment--ie several adjacent ribs each broken in two places so the segment doesn't move with the rest of the chest with breathing--then yes, skiing would be dangerous, but most likely you would be in a hospital getting an epidural, IV opiates, and maybe a ventilator.Quote:
Originally Posted by skinipenem
If you're able, hold a pillow firmly over the part of the chest that hurts, or hold the pillow between your chest and the wall, when you feel a sneeze coming on--to support the ribs.Quote:
Originally Posted by neufox47
BTW, regarding the earlier issue of whether or not pneumonia is contagious--generally speaking the transmissibility of your average pneumonia is low. Family members and medical personnel almost never catch pneumonia from patients. Mostpneumonias are caused by bacteria that are already in our bodies and not bothering us until for some reason they do--for example we break a rib and don't breath deeply enough and cough enough to clear mucus out of our lungs and expand the air sacs. There are exceptions--influenza is much more contagious than bacterial pneumonia. TB of course.
Don't overlook the emotional component. The same sting can hurt a lot more if you get stung on the dick instead of the arm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
4 weeks and change out and finally getting close to normal. I've been able to do some light exercise this week. Saw a PT friend who thinks that I pulled my diaphragm when I fell, then running further injured / inflamed it. Said that having the wind knocked out for 2-3 minutes when I fell indicated damage to it and that running was then about the worst possible thing to do next to mogul skiing. The pain also felt very deep and while my ribs were tender there was definitely pain that was too deep to be exacerbated by palpation. Also, that the pain I was getting from sneezing, intense deep muscle spasm like pain that restricted my ability to breath for 1-3 minutes, sounded like a diaphragm issue. Whatever it was, I'm glad it is getting better and that fucker hurt. There were times that sneezing resulted in cold sweats, getting light headed, etc.
Haven't heard of that one before. It does seem to be a popular topic on alternative medicine web cites, running sites, weight lifting sites, not so much on medical sites.Quote:
Originally Posted by neufox47
The symptoms you are describing are entirely consistent with broken ribs.
The diaphragm can rupture--the mechanism is almost alway severe blunt trauma to the abdomen, or getting stabbed or shot. The symptoms are--your internal abdominal organs are in your chest. Pain from the diaphragm is felt in the shoulder, not the chest. The nerves from the diaphragm joint the nerves from the shoulder area, among others, before entering the spinal cord, and since injuries to the shoulder are much more common than injuries to the diaphragm the brain assumes any pain impulses coming from that nerve root are from the shoulder.
Most importantly, you did not harm yourself by running. You made it hurt more--which is expected but the running did not worsen the injury or delay healing.
is this some bsdm thing? kinky!Quote:
Originally Posted by acinpdx
I keep forgetting to check this thread. I should have added that he wasn't ruling out a broken rib, he thought I probably cracked a rib and pulled and strained the diaphram and the muscles in the area. When he did a physical exam and he was feeling under the ribs in the right front side it was definitely painful in the muscle and I was super tense there. Way less pain when he pressed on the rib than that spot up under the rib. He did some massage there and had me do self massage on that muscle and it decreased the symptoms quite a bit. Could have just been that I just turned the corner, but I felt better after he did that first treatment then seemed to accelerate improvement.Quote:
Originally Posted by old goat
6 weeks out and syptoms are almost all gone. Skied at 90% last weekend. Been going to the gym and have been able to do almost any exercise, just not with as much weight.
The running certainly felt like it made it worse. I had sneezed a few times prior to running and the pain was a 3, after running it was a 7. The worst pain was definitely the two weeks after running.
I still fear a sneeze though and have to remind myself that it isn't going to hurt.
I cracked a rib, and it fucking sucks.
Carrying in a load of firewood last week I tripped and fell straight back into the wood pile. Bruised from ass to armpit and sure enough xray showes a fracture on the second rib up from the bottom.. in the back.
Fucker makes all aspects of life painful.. especially the standing, sitting, lying down and moving parts.
Add on top of that I have a little chest cold and feel like I need a really good hack to clear out the lungs, but I can't because even a little throat clearing feels like I'm getting stabbed. So now I'm all stressed about the pneumonia and shit.
If I'm lucky I can ski by March.
Fuck.
Just hung up with the nurse. XRays confirmed broken L9 rib. Pain was serious two nights ago and all of yesterday. Aleve and ice have managed it ok. Actually better than ok compared to the spasms which were abysmal. Couldn't get into the car to go to the ER last night. Tried for 20 minutes and then quit. Considered calling for an ambulance.
Doc has me on 800 mg of ibuprofen 3x/day and Zantac to help with stomach issues. The nurse made it clear I could drink beer for the game on Sunday.
24 hours hours ago I thought I would need to move out of the house into a one room apartment as the screams/moaning/shouting from the spasms was scaring the kids. Today I walked a mile to the hospital and another back. Think I can make it. Humbling. I thank the good Lord I have shelter. Don't understand how the homeless can deal with trauma.
No opiods?
Dude, you need like a 90 day supply of Oxy 80’s with unlimited refills. American way.
Ha! Just picked up a bottle of Advil. At my age, icy would put me on the moon.Quote:
Originally Posted by AK47bp
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Dibs.Quote:
Originally Posted by AK47bp
Add some tylenol to that. More effective pain medicine than most folks realize, and it lets you take less of the ibuprofen, so less stomach problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by hafjell
I got walking pneumonia the last time I cracked ribs. It’s no joke. I wonder if there’s something you can do to help prevent it. I guess just try to breathe as deep as you can tolerate. I was probably being too much of a pussy. I feel bad for you guys it really sucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by JayPowHound
Good luck with the ribs, all. I've messed mine up several times. Funny thing about ribs is the pain doesn't always watch the severity of the injury. I've had minor I juries that hurt like hell for a couple weeks and made it impossible to sleep then went away almost overnight. I've also had more significant injuries that took months to heal, but didnt bother me much at the outset.
Worst I had was from helping train a women who was trying to qualify to wrestle in the Olympics. She was drilling her gut wrench on me. On rep 100 or so, I heard and felt POP POP POP POP. "That's how you do a gut wrench" I said, and went straight the the hospital.
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Take enough pain meds--opiates if necessary-- that you can take a couple of deep breathes and make a GOOD cough every hour. Hold a pillow firmly over the broken ribs when you cough. If you can't do these things you might need a rib block or even hospitalization.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz
Fack. Back in the club again.
Please don’t make me cough or laugh
Friggin diaphragmsQuote:
Originally Posted by Core Shot
John John!
^ same. chasing the 9 yr old around the bird last sat and pulled the 360-mute-grab-eat-shit-fail. sneezed last night and almost passed out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Core Shot
Vibes to the newly injured. I forgot how all this went down. That shit was miserable!
Fook me, took a fall off a ladder from about 8'. Missed the tuck and roll. Bruised ribs for sure.
Painy pain ouch fook.
The cats are happy I am chilling with them.
OTC meds with a side of beer and hootch.
Been dosing the affected area with DMSO and alternating with Naproxen Sodium at night and extra strength Tylenol during the day. Meds make it manageable. Seems to get a bit better each day. Finally took a shower this morning.
This getting old shit sucks. Oh well. Hope everyone else with this is getting along ok.
Sustained release tylenol that lasts 8 hours instead of 4 is nice--often marketed as arthritis relief.Quote:
Originally Posted by SB
Week one, much better but still pain. Was able to mow grass yesterday with riding mower.
Daily DMSO seems to be helping along with a wrap. Trying hard not to over do it.
One month and it still hurts, still using pain meds to manage just not as much.
Gonna suck it up and wrap up for some easy rides on the bike fest this weekend.
Ya, you won't be able to roll over in bed or sleep on that side until all of a sudden you can. Until then it's usless to try. Only time and avoiding reinjry can heal ribs. I did ski with them wrapped last time I wrecked myself but nothing that would require a lot of effort.Quote:
Originally Posted by SB
Specifically this is regarding textures for game development in unity. So having an alpha channel that is editable separate from the RGB channels is important to keep my workflow & iteration moving quickly.
As example, we'll say the image has 6 layers in two layer groups.
I have a grayscale image of what I currently want my alpha to be but I need it applied to the entire image, not an individual layer.
I can't apply it as a mask to a layer group.
I could apply the same mask to every layer but that's a hell of a lot of work every time I need to make a change to the alpha.
Basically the only way I know of to apply the alpha without effecting, or being effected by the RGB is to export, open the exported file, decompose it, copy and past the alpha in, then recompose.
Is there not some way to work with the alpha within the one xcf?
Bump.
Oops I did it again. Fucking righteous pain from the right side of my back one or two up. The urgent care didn’t want to give me pills without an X-ray and they didn’t have the X-ray device on hand. Recommended either a wrap and OTC or go to the ER. The fuck? Shouldn’t there be a not-E R that has and X-ray? I don’t even want a fucking chest X-ray I want the fucking pills for a couple days. Fuck.
Then the fucking Safeway has a 1.7 yard ace bandage. Oh awesome. I could wrap that around my fat ass maybe once.
I about passed out from one sneeze. Going with the Tylenol naproxen weed and booze cocktail. Damn. Thanks for letting me crybaby for a bit.
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Wrapping for a broken rib isn't usually a good idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jong Lafitte
Broke my 9th rib near my spine on 27th December. Took damn near two months to not be anything from screaming in agony to just painful all the time.
Vibes.
Worth an xray. If displaced plating may be useful. Also, your liver is over there... displaced fracture could be [emoji107] no Bueno.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jong Lafitte
Paging Old [emoji238] Goat.
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He doesn’t need plating and I would be more worried about his lung than his liver. At this point it’s probably no concern. It’s gonna hurt, for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by skinipenem
Wrapping isn’t recommended for rib fx anymore. If the fx are non displaced an X-ray probably won’t help, you need a CT. Good luck
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What kind of UC can't do a chest xr? And a lot of rib fx don't show up on CXR. They wanna make you get a CT to get a few pills? Eventually though someone is going to want you to have that XR because if you need opiates now you're probably going to need more of them than an UC or ER is going to want to give you. Hope I'm wrong--get better quick.
I have had six surgeries, and countless broken other shit. But breaking six ribs was the only time I thought about asking around for more drugs after my scrips ran out, and they wouldn't give me more. I never did, but it was a little scary to contemplate. I usually get sick of them by week two or three.
Right on thanks all for the vibes and the help!
I did find an urgent care that says they can do an X-ray so I think I can start there, see what they say…
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