Angle grinder is indispensable if you have any steel to cut. Need to cut off an old Rusty bolt, replace a section of busted edges on a ski, etc...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tips^Up
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Angle grinder is indispensable if you have any steel to cut. Need to cut off an old Rusty bolt, replace a section of busted edges on a ski, etc...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tips^Up
Strongly agree on the angle grinder being a nice addition to any tool collection.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSilverSurfer
But if your looking to sell back some of the shiny new tools from that set you might think about selling the angle grinder and buying a corded one. They are pretty cheap I've got 2 a $40 porter cable from HD and a $5 what the hell why not brand from a yard sale my wife dragged me to. They both work fine. The cords have never gotten in my way or caused me any inconvenience. Use them for cutting of stubborn bolts, auto body as well as paint and rust removal. Could see the value of cordless on a job site or farm though.
An angle grinder is a great tool to have around. Along with cutting concrete, tile, metal, plastics and wood, it can grind, sand and brush, even buff, IIRC. There's chain saw blades, flapper wheels and wire brush options that really extend it's utility. I just read that the reason circular saw blades aren't common due to the angle grinder's higher RPMs vs circular saws. Looks like they could be an accident waiting to happen with super fast kick backs and no guard, although there are many times a 4" blade on an angle grinder seems like it would be the perfect option to have laying around.
I looked at the Milwaukee multi tool but read that no one, not even Milwaukee carries replacement blades. Is this true? Would someone else blades work? EDIT: looks like they are available now.
Is there any cross compatibility with cordless batteries between any manufacturer? I'm guessing no, to keep users in each manufacturer's lines as noted previously.
That's the key to me. I would make some sacrifices in capabilities and features if I could have the widest variety of tools that work on one battery type. Each tool you get comes with one so you'd always have a couple charged and ready to go without having to drop the coin on just the battery for one or two tools in the collection. As it is so far, I'm good with corded tools and saving the $$.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpinord
True dat. A cordless drill and driver are no brainers. After that, the higher the power needs the less it makes sense to pay more to go cordless and not have full capabilities of a tool type, unless it is a lot better for a given repetitive task and a time saver (or corded power is a PITA). I am really liking my cordless jigsaw.Quote:
Originally Posted by gravitylover
Extremely dangerousQuote:
Originally Posted by Alpinord
https://www.revealnews.org/article/t...still-uses-it/
^^^there is current tech to offset the dangers of the super utility of this setup... 2 blades spinning opposed to each other. I'm not up on what is available. Last looked like development was still on the up swing.
I have several Milwaukee 12v and 18v tools. Treated me pretty well for several years. My most recent addition to the set is the 18v oscillating multi tool, it's really nice for remodel projects. Whatever set you decide on, I recommend including the multi-tool.
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been a hilti wholesale consumer since they came to our shores. Festool, hitachi and panasonic in the house. predominantly pneumatic hand tools to drill, sand and cut. Die grinder being the ultimate in usability across all mediums.
$400 worth of makita above is going to cover just about anything you throw in front of it.
Depends on the tool. A circular saw, reciprocating saw, or large hammer drill will still be better with a cord; but most hand tools, IME, are better as a cordless these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpinord
Most (if not all) brands of multi tool blades are compatible with the Milwaukee tool. I think the other multi tool brands are similar, although some of them require adapters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpinord
My cordless hammer drill blows my mind. The torque turns concrete into butter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustonen
THIS ^^^Quote:
Originally Posted by AustinFromSA
And I wouldn't get anything less than 20v nowadays.
I've become a believer in battery tools...but I still keep corded tools on standby.
I stuck with corded tools for a long time hauling a generator around in the back of my truck running hundred foot extension cords cetera. Now I've gone 100% cordless and I love it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alaskan Rover
FYI all the 20 volt tools are actually 18 volt 20 volt is just pure marketing
Apparently, Dewalt consumers weren't bright enough to differentiate between 18v battery packs so they had to market the new series as 20v. :fm:Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSilverSurfer
I've always been skeptical of larger battery-powered tools until I started using the Stihl TSA230 cut-off (demo) saw. Holy shit does that thing rip. I've basically stopped using our plug-in sliding wet saw for concrete paver use as the Stihl is easier to handle and cuts just as fast. Charges fast too, it charges a totally dead battery faster than I can drain the spare battery.
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I've yet to use a battery-powered circular saw that I like though. Most of them eat through batteries too quick to be useful, and don't have enough torque. To be fair though I've only used the smaller 6.5" ones.
Milwaukee appears to be committed to the M18 platform. You can score batteries from them fairly easy by asking a Rep. That company makes so much money it’s ridiculous. They don’t even know how much it cost them to make a battery, they just have a dollar amount assigned to it. It was $20 a few years ago. And this is why http://www.ttigroup.com/en/our_brands/
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I’ve been pushing a Milwaukee impact driver to its limit (boring holes and driving large screws) on a regular basis (trail building for work), for nearly 10 years (replaced the batteries once) and its still going strong. When it finally does crap out, I’ll definitely be replacing it with their latest brushless 18v version.
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gotta ask a question , why an impact driver for drilling holes?? a drill bit doesn't fit does it ? I'm sure ways around it , Screws like roofing screws with a hex head using a nut driver great. How about #8 or #10 screws with impact driver?
edited as rushed ? going out the door
Ready to pull the cordless trigger. Is brushless worth it or no?
$399 or $599?
I’m not sure what you’re asking.... couple typos there.... but i love impact drivers because they don’t torque your wrist, slow down as torque increases, are less likely to strip heads, and can power through just about anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by DougW
I have some brushless, some non. I would buy brushless because it’s better and I like shiny things, but I can’t say I really miss it or notice on my non brushless tools. I’m a pretty casual user, so if somebody disagrees with me I defer to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tips^Up
Home gamer...nah not really worth the $200. Professional, yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tips^Up
I'm drunk and buy the brushes or ur limiting yourself. The difference is night and day. I've spent about 5g on dewalt in the last year. Deaawlt only coz my boss uses them. Other wise I would have gone down the Milwaukee road.
Go brushless or punch yourself in the face!
DeWalt 60v are great! Lots power. I've used the skill saw grinder chop saw and saws all. My shit works hard and brushless and 60v or your the guy in rear entry boots on skinny skis telling everyone in 2018 how sweet your set up rides ...
Depends on what you're Drilling but a lot of drill bits are available with the right fitting to fit an impact driver. Especially if you're boring holes in wood. butterQuote:
Originally Posted by DougW
The free batteries and replacements for life is interesting. Along with the multiple JobMax Heads that can be swapped out to give you multi tool, recip saw, jigsaw, rotary, angle driver & ratchet (with more on the way?) options for a half the cost of each tool....which all work on pneumatic, 12V, 18V & corded base tools. So you could have a air, cordless and corded version of various combinations of these tools.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mau
Are these swap-able heads a legitimate alternative to individual tools? Is this warranty for real and without hassles?
I've really worked my DeWalt batteries to death, one of my 1ah batteries will only power my flashlight now. I lost my 5ah battery and didn't want to spend an arm and a leg to get a new one. I decided to try the harbor freight batteries. $50 for a 5ah and a little bit of trimming on the tool to get it to slide all the way in and good to go. Hercules batteries for the win.
Bump, as I am looking at the many Black Friday sales on cordless tools. I have corded tools I like (circular saw, two angle grinders, Dremel, saber saw), one I don't use much (drill), and one cheap as fuck (Harbor Freight sawzall). The only cordless tool I have is a Porter Cable 18V Li-ion drill from around 10 years ago -- still works OK, batteries don't last that long anymore, so a replacement wouldn't be a bad thing to pick up. I also have a shop compressor and air tools; mostly just use the impact wrench and occasionally the ratchet.
The electric cordless tool I most want/need is a driver.
Looking at the brushed vs brushless thing -- at the same price ($229), which of these would you get? This is for home/garage use, not professional.
1) Dewalt drill + separate driver, 2 batteries, brushless
https://www.lowes.com/pd/DEWALT-XR-2...ded/1000434587
2) Bosch promo: drill + separate driver, 2 batteries, brushed -- plus another tool (I'd pick the sawzall, since my corded Harbor Freight one is pretty shitty), plus another 4ah battery -- so 3 tools I could use, and 3 batteries total:
https://core18v.boschtools.com/bestd...wE#popmake-110
Some might diss rigid (haven’t gone through whole thread, assuming) but for homeowner use they’ve been great fir me. And with issues, there’s LIFETIME warranty on batteries and tools. I’ve had to warranty a battery once or twice. Bought a drill/driver (current brushless) for FIL and they’re nice. I’ll hope they do not go out of biz and I loose warranty.
The red ones are nice too.
If all you need is a driver, and don't need huge power, I'd look at the 12v bosch kits that are going for around 100. https://toolguyd.com/bosch-12v-cordl...o-deal-111719/
but if you're willing to spend over 200 for either of those kits, this is a nice setup that'll get you a circ and recip saw for 300:
https://toolguyd.com/best-cordless-p...k-friday-2019/
Acme tools doesn't collect sales tax last I checked. Get 3% cashback by clicking through Topcashback too.
https://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools...utm_source=sas
All the big name brands will be fine for home use.
You are buying into the battery platform.
- Look at the cost of batteries
- Look at the tool selection. Some brands have a small selection of tools. Some have everything under the sun. Some of those off items are nice; blower, string trimmer, hedge trimmer, vacuum, etc...
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I swear there was just a extensive thread on this, but I can't find it.
If I just go with a driver, Lowe's has this Dewalt brushless on sale for $99. This is really all I need -- but I could justify a need/want for a nicer drill and a non-shitty sawzall...Quote:
Originally Posted by house
https://www.lowes.com/pd/DEWALT-20-V...ded/1001239964
That is a nice package on Makita tools there. I'm kinda leaning towards Lowe's-available product, because I have some discounts and gift cards.
That's kind of what I figured re: buying into a family of tools/batteries.Quote:
Originally Posted by nickwm21
I don't need the larger yard tools as part of the cordless family, since I have a gas powered blower, string trimmer, and electric shop vac.
beece - I thought I saw one too, but google produced this thread as the most recent.
If you want to stick to Lowe's, I've noticed they're deeply discounting Hitachi (now "Metabo HPT") cordless tools. It looks like they have an impact with 2 batteries for $69 now. It's a less popular brand but the batteries should be around for a while, now that Metabo is continuing to produce the 18v lineup, and the tools are generally well reviewed. I even bought into it just for the cordless framing nailer which works great, but I can't speak to any of the other tools.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Chupacabra
https://www.lowes.com/search?searchT...priceLowToHigh
Thanks for that heads up on Hitachi! Tempting...
I would buy Makita, but of these two, get the brushless one. Brushless is signifigantly more robust. Does Lowe's not carry Makita? Looks like maybe they don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Chupacabra
This is cheap, but only one battery:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-1...E&gclsrc=aw.ds
Two batteries is a bit more, but you get an impact driver:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-1...E&gclsrc=aw.ds
Both of these are cheaper than your options for what I believe is a better tool. I've killed more than one Dewalt. Have not been able to kill a Makita yet. I love certain Bosch tools (jigsaws, for example) but not their drills. They are fine, just not the best, in my opinion.
Typically there are good prices on the drill packages because it's the gateway drug - once they get you in the ecosystem, they have you.
That Makita package looks nice.
Hmm...
On the way home, I stopped by Lowe's and picked up some clearance Hitachi/ Metabo: got a brushless Sawzall, drill/driver with two batteries, and impact driver with two batteries - all 18V. Both drills are brushed and come with chargers. The Sawzall is just a bare tool. About $177 with tax.
I need to Google exactly what I bought and decide if I'm going to keep it.
Life is short, get the brushless.
I ended up with Milwaukee. Just warrantied the driver after it started acting funny. Free, fast, works brand new now. The blower has become my favorite. Used it on leaves today, use it on blowy pow (need the shovel for heavy stuff), faster and easier than sweeping or raking.