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^^One thing that strikes me about the schmear turners versus someone who can ski a ski the way it's designed is what the schmear turners are missing by not loading up a ski. I have always loved loading a ski then experiencing the rebound into the next turn. That level of action isn't possible unless you can really carve the ski and reverse camber it. When you get that acceleration when transitioning a turn, there's not much else that compares for fun on snow.
It's all part of le glisse.
Even snowboards.
^^Agreed GM!
I'm a schmear turner and a gear burner
I started in bumps and ruts.
I'm a long boarder and a gear horder
I just go plain old skiing nuts
I'm a daffy thrower and a deep pow knower
And I spent some time in huts
I'm a turn carver and a snow starver
End up asking more whys than whats.
^^ I imagine that to Steve Miller's I'm a Joker... Good call!
“I can’t give anyone a good reason to ski bumps.”
Truer words have never been spoke. I’m actually surprised that Mosley still has the knees for it after all these years.
In all honesty, trying to make things like skiing bumped out chutes the cool thing to do will be much better for the sport long term than selling ever more unattainable epic ski porn movies.
There was that video a couple years back of Pep and Sage shredding Alta that had that same vibe. Just going to the Hill with friends and making the best of it.
https://youtu.be/_Kd8U5r_F7c
Consider me shocked that members of the US mogul team and a former gold medalist mogul skier are better bump skiers than Marcus Caston, a dude with a racing background. It also appears that most are on bump skis and I don't think Caston is. I was stoked that he gave a nod to mogul skiing and I think it foreshadows how the series will play out with Marcus skiing with other shredders in their ski turning niche.Quote:
Originally Posted by rod9301
I agree. Showing how much fun can be had just riding lifts and ripping around the resort is a nice change of pace from heli ski porn all the time, especially without making a jib segment. I actually like that it wasn't centered too much around spoofin' the 80s and partyin', seem actually more in line with current ski culture.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phildo_Baggins
Caston is on some longish Blizzard Bonafide (not sure how tall he is to be able to judge length) -- compared to full-on bump skis on the US Mogul Team fellows. They are also taking entirely different tactical approaches to the bumps -- bumpers have classic bump technique, Marcus has rage-and-play with impressive technical background technique. Personally I find the former quite dull to watch, the latter quite exciting.
Bonafide's are pretty good in bumps. If he's an average sized male ex-racer, he should have no problem with the 187 cm longest size in bumps.Quote:
Originally Posted by doebedoe
Isn’t he like 5’6?
Bonafides may be okay in the bumps. But they are no where near as bump friendly as full-on bump skis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonny Snow
I heard he's 5'2". But he skis like he's 5'3"! [emoji12]Quote:
Originally Posted by Lindahl
I friggen love bumps. Like they said, being on the edge of control, making a mistake, but reeling it back in and keepin’ going.
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I like Castons skiing better than Mosleys, but I have a bias towards the mad racer slash.
After slowly evolving in my thirties from east coast bump guy to Sierra cement loving guy on 195 jag sharks, I missed ripping zipper lines but could not do so with my ridiculous underfoot boats. So I picked up some B1's and skied a bunch of moguls. Guess what? It wasn't the skis. I fucking suck now. To points made earlier - we old people need fast groomers to get even a shadow of the thrill they used to get in their twenties. Think of GS skis as winter sports viagra.
Quote of the day for this old guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by mogul5480
I definitely don't go out of my way to hit the bump lines anymore.
meh, he kinda flails his arms a bit.
100% agree. I had a pair of Atomic Atlas a few years back. Super fun ski. Not a schmeary ski at all but built for speed and charging. Those things were always begging me to go faster and straighter. Eventually got kinda bored going mach speeds all the time and went back to a more turny ski for the very reasons so eloquently describe.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldMember
Skiing 210 straights in variable conditions, aftermath probably couldn't walk.....drugs please.
1) All of those guys crush it.
2) Caston is one of the most playful former racers I know.
3) to the point that he takes it not seriously enough to teach at party beach https://partybeachskicamps.com/
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Originally Posted by mogul5480
Yes!! Viagra!! And what GM sez.
'Course, if you need Viagra after hitting 40, you're not doing it right. After 60 now, I'm all in - I ski faster now (on groomers of course) than I ever did when i was younger, groomers or off piste, and softly caress my edges every night before bed.
Caveat: free-heeling' nerd talkin'
As to the statement “I can’t give anyone a good reason to ski bumps.”... I have an answer...
When the rest of the area is over run with careening, skid steering , wana bees who can't handle actually having to control their skis.... bumps runs are frequently the best skiing on the hill! Just like it used to be with skiing chewed up mank and cement... before the coming of fat, skill free, all access skis.
As to straight lining... Didn't we get that kamikaze shit out of our system back in the 1850s (when that was the way to race down a mountain with little or no control)....If not, Why not?!
But not to worry about this, because Darwin awards will surly cool that fascination. Hopefully with out the practitioners taking out any unfortunate, down hill skiers along the way.
Everything has become so extreme these days. It's nice to see some serious quality stuff that is easier to relate to.
when I was younger I liked to jump off of stuff so much that it was my primary focus but now, at 42 my back doesn't like that and I focus on fluid lines and speedy carves in fresh snow so I really like seeing this stuff with Marcus.
And............ bumps rule!
Nobody even knows what good skiing is these days. I know who good skiers are however, they are skiing for smiles. I used to be that guy...a conditions and terrain snob. Then I woke up one day and remembered that there are smiles to be had all over the mountain everyday. Groomers, bumps, beginner terrain, heinous conditions, sun, snow, rains, dirt...it just doesn't matter.
If you get out of the truck with a good attitude, you'd be suprised where you find the smiles. As Doug said, "no bad snow, just bad skiers". You want to dominate the mountain...offer yourself zero excuses.
That goes double for those of us on the east coast.
I follow ted ligety on IG. He regularly posts runs where he bends the ski, and it looks like a hoot to ride that way
https://instagram.com/p/BadySr4AAw2/
I have been hearing more people talking about buying carving skis instead of skidding skis. Hopefully that is a good sign. Now if only ski companies will listen.
Every company is making skis that can carve well. The problem is not the product. Its the pilot.Quote:
Originally Posted by snojones
No way. My Elan SCX MonoRp's are the most skiddy skis and they have a super sidecut!!! I'll get going soo fast on them and when I roll my ankles sideways they just SKIIIIDDDDD. I think I need to loose my poles and hart carve.Quote:
Originally Posted by doebedoe
Love some fast groomers on my Supershape Titans. They also make a day with rock hard snow and clear ice groomers fun.
Well said...Quote:
Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles
Who cares how, when, and where you ski. As long as you're having fun, then you're doing it right.
^^^
he said nothing about whether you are doing it right. Foggy_Goggles was just saying ski the whole mountain in all conditions. But style matters, style ALWAYS matters.
There is a place for schmear turns and a place for carving. Mcconkey understood that, people should learn to carve before sliding a rail.
I never said he said anything about doing it right. I said that; in a thread entitled "Return of the Turn: Marcus Caston and "Actual Skiing"" no less.Quote:
Originally Posted by BRUTAH
Wow. Such wisdom.Quote:
Originally Posted by doebedoe
Time for Jonny Snow and doebedoe to have a ski off?
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Ted killing it out free skiing. Watch this and get pumped!Quote:
Originally Posted by acinpdx
http://unofficialnetworks.com/2017/0...skis-groomers/