NYC for a day?

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Originally Posted by Flea

NYC=product from the bottom of hell.

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No that's Boston

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Originally Posted by Dexter Rutecki

I guess with all the stops it does make sense, but I still can't wrap my head around that (I've done the A from Chelsea to JFK before--long ago). How the hell do they make 10 miles take 90 minutes? And why didn't they make the Airtrain go all the way to...ahh, never mind.

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The speed limit going across the bay is pretty low. All of those bridges are on sand and there are pretty strong currents through there as the tide goes in and out so I don't think they trust the footings. There's also no fast way to go through Bklyn unless you're flying over it.

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Originally Posted by Dexter Rutecki

Yeah, and if you don't at least appreciate NYC it makes you an uncivilized troglodyte. But it's not like you're ever going to be missed, so whatever. Stay in hayseed land.

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uncivilized troglodyte = Hahaha

Coming to NYC to visit the Rockaways? Wut do fhuck is wrong witchu?

Go to an irish bar in woodside queens and get hammered. I recommend Donovan's but any of them will do.

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Originally Posted by ml242

The Rockaways are awesome. And I'm not saying that because you were dick in the other cycling thread and now you're posting this thread without doing the bare minimum of research to see that Harlem is part of Manhattan.

If you want to go hang out by the surf beach, read a book, and hit some fairly inexpensive but tasty restaurants, you can do that there. The water is still in the upper 70s and pretty pleasant. The bike paths are decent too without many peds and you make some really nice loops out there. And FT is practically burning man on a nice weekend day. Not joking.

So while the neighborhood isn't for everybody it is pretty unique for a major city to have a hippie/punk surf scene like nyc actually does. And yeah, don't wander down too far east, but it's pretty obvious at this point where it is.

If that sounds interesting I'll send you a pm.

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Thanks, I'm doing a Harlem trip though, decided on Harlem on Page One.

I was a dick in the bike thread, but I thought I was just a (condescending too) dick to Jamal. As for Harlem, I've always thought it was one of the five boroughs. Oh well.

Thanks to all the advice! Very helpful. I'll be in Harlem walking around Sunday night, and then try to rent a bike and do part of Dex's route Monday morning. I might hit The Rockaways for an hour or so after my meeting, but it might be too tight before the flight. And ST Jerry put it pretty succinctly on my Rockaway idea on his last post, ha.

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Originally Posted by nutmegchoi

Just realized.
It's gonna be a hot mess downtown on Sunday.
Especially around the memorial.

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Yeah, stay away from the lower tip of Manhattan. Although it's turned into a tourist hell trap most nice weekends.

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Originally Posted by muted

As for Harlem, I've always thought it was one of the five boroughs. Oh well.

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Harlem is in one of the five boroughs.
Borough of Manhattan.
It is very tip of Manhattan.
Where Harlem ends is the beginning of the Bronx.

No

Washington Heights and several other neighborhoods are above Harlem center and west side, on the east side 125th is the entrance to the Willis Ave bridge with the Bronx right there.

I keep thinking Washington Heights is the Bronx.
Just because... :rolleyes2

Ha...here's a hint: if you haven't gone across the east river it's tough to get to the Bronx (and remember, the Bronx is up and and Battery's down).

There's a lot that can be confusing about NYC neighborhoods--I think there are still tiny sub-neighborhoods in Queens whose names I've never heard (some of those places are basically a few blocks, but they have their own names). And SI, fuhgeddaboutit (should make it official and just let NJ have it).

When I was a kid I had no idea where anything was--I thought Washington Square Park was next to the UES and that my grandmother, who lived in Hollis (Queens), lived in the Bronx. But I've since learned that all kids have no sense whatsoever of where anything is.

I don't really see the appeal of Harlem. The studio museum is nice but that's the only reason I ever head there. The cloisters is worthwhile. I spent my birthday there a couple years ago throwing a frisbee on the lawn and hitting some of the local boulders.

I'd probably rather just hang out in Central Park though and boulder on a nice day or chill on the beach, but I'm a city guy that hangs out on a ski forum.