Death by ghetto tubeless. Told you so.Quote:
Originally Posted by jm2e
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Death by ghetto tubeless. Told you so.Quote:
Originally Posted by jm2e
'Bout time! Been waiting for that.
In this case, I'd say it's more a case of wrong tire and wrong rim for the given usage. Especially given that it's a tubeless ready tire and a tubeless ready rim.
This guy had the bike laid waaay over and was pulling big Gs. Fortunately he did not die.
This is a no joke deal. Some retarded prices on Maxxis tires!Quote:
Originally Posted by Damian Sanders
$27 for 26" Shorty
$30-40 for 27.5" High Roller II
Just picked up a pair of DH tires for the wife.
Anyone get on the Minion semislick yet?
That's high praise coming from the guy who rides 25 mins/wk. Thanks for your experienced voice.Quote:
Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn
Yeah, help the little pup. He's mastered all relevant bike skills, only the tires hold him back now.Quote:
Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn
Rolling resistance, sidewall durability, and traction are way more important to me than treadwear. Considering the sidewalls of my last couple of ikons have failed well before the tread was worn I'm not too worried about schwalbes wearing faster. Rode on some rocket rons recently and liked how they felt.
I don't know schwalbe's compounds, but a friend had Hans Dampfs awhile back and handed me a handful of the sideknob that tore off within a month (about 12 rides, probably 500 miles give or take). It was likely the super sticky version, but have heard other people claim similar experiences.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamal
Yeah I have heard about that happening on some schwalbes, ut I'd be getting a rocket ron and racing ralph which have way shorter knobs. Although if anything their sidewalls are probably less durable than a maxxis exo casing. Mostly just want to try something else after going through like 5 ikons and an ardent race.
I'm planning to get another bike this year that will be more "all mountain" so I can have a bike/wheels with some chunkier tires and stick with light xc rubber on the current bike.
I'm a big fan of the HRII. It rolls like shit, but traction is solid. That little bit of give is disconcerting at first, but they're just so damn predictable.
The little Maxxis traction liaison crawls up your arm and sits on your shoulder and yells "Hey man, I'm Reg! This is fun, eh!? Listen, you're front tire is starting to push a little, but don't freak out! We're only at DEFCON 1 here, plenty of traction to spare! If you're up to it, you might try and shift your weight, get the rear end drift...No?! Okay, take it easy man, we're not on a Nevegal here!! (chuckles) You've got lots of options! You can push a little harder, but your turn is going to go to shit! Let's get that weight centered again, get yourself back over the front and see if we can lean into those shoulder knobs! Everything is going to be okay! What are you thinking next!? Tillman West, maybe!? Do we have time!?"
Is everybody's traction liaison named Reg?
Nah.
I have friends in real life.
They tend to laugh when I crash however........hmmm
I had that same freaky feeling running HRII in the front. I think it was almost entirely user error. It didn't want to grip till you really laid it over. If you half ass your turns it can be squirrely.
is the spec grid worth over the control for the butcher/slaughter?
have been running conti mk 2.4 front/rear but they won't last much longer! thought about dhf/ss, tk/mk or even xk but think I'm gonna give spec a try now that 26 are available!
no its Mel ... Melfunction is the guy in every machineQuote:
Originally Posted by bagtagley
For me, no, but I'm not riding very rocky terrain at low pressures.Quote:
Originally Posted by mfa81
not really user error more of design feature of the Hr2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian
I absolutely love the Magic Mary Super Gravity for a front tire. I don't love the weight. Current bigger bike setup minion 2.5 3c/tr/exo and 2.3 high roller II rear also 3c/tr/exo though I know that tire won't last long back there.
Pinner bike setup with the nobby nic 2.3 front 2.2 ikon rear 3c/tr/exo. The ikon in that spec is 120 tpi which I think helps you get away with a lot for a tire like that. Make pinner tires great again! Great for what it is. I would like to see some 120tpi minions and see how those work out but I doubt that is in the works... Anyway, yah bikes.
Magic Mary SS 2.35 front, DHR2 EXO 2.4 rear. One bike, all conditions. Nearly time to ride.
Yes. For everyone who is turning and jumping and riding over rocks. The small weight penalty is well worth the better feeling tire. The control casing gets squirly because the sidewall is so flimsy.Quote:
Originally Posted by mfa81
I had a Butcher/Butcher then Butcher/Purgatory front/rear last summer. Controls on the front were fine for how I ride (very rocky terrain but I ride light, not much park or drops) and Grids on the rear. Butcher Grid was a little tougher than a Maxxis EXO, Purgatory Grid about the same, Butcher Control a little less (about the same as Schwalbe Snakeskin). Weights will give you a good indication of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by jm2e
Tire recs for general XC? I'm looking at Continental Trail Kings, WTB Trail Bosses, Maxxis High Roller 2....
I ride in the Front Range and up in Summit or Eagle counties. Thanks.
Agreed on both points. Been using HRII's forever. It took some time to get used to but now, they seem to be my go-to.Quote:
Originally Posted by bagtagley
For whatever the reason, Maxxis is fucking slow at getting out the 27.5X2.4 EXO TR version of the HRII.(that or they sell out faster than they can make them) Slashed the shit out of my front, had to use an ardent with the same specs. Definitely didn't love it. Since I can't get a replacement HR in the tubeless variety, I am looking for a new combo.
Hey I do those things! I do have a control butcher on the front because I got it free and there's a magical magical combination with my current rims that keep it from popping.Quote:
Originally Posted by jm2e
That's probably the lightest tire I've ever been able to keep in one piece. Am I wrong for liking the lower weight? It's pretty noticeable.
Some questions re: Butcher/Slaughter combo....
GRID vs. Control? Going on a 27.5 bike. Don't "enduro" (??) but do ride a lot and often in backcountry and on rocky trails. Could certainly be accused of being a XC rider. I like long rides and rarely (never) shuttle or ride chairs. I like riding up hill.
Coming from High Roller II, which I'm mostly pleased with...do they roll faster? The light weight looks good, and there are times the HRII feel sorta sluggish.
Anyone had any issues with Butcher/Slaughter on Stans (flow) rims? Maxxis seem to work so well (no flats for the life of the tire) on stans and I'd love have the same luck with my next set.
The price and weight and corner-nobs look awesome on these tires fo' sho'!
Thanks, tire nerds!
Any recommendations one way or the other between the slaughter and minion ss?
someone told on mtbr that the ss wasn't that good on loose over hard, never heard this about the slaughter! I just got this same combo above but havent installed yet will report back!Quote:
Originally Posted by steeze_pizza
bucher/slaughter grid since I don't really care about weight and I'm up for the durability and also run super low pressure
just curious, what is 'super-low' pressure in your world?Quote:
Originally Posted by mfa81
i'm running the butcher/slaughter combo, tubeless at 21psi
158lbs with a full camelbak
You're gonna die.
Ran that exact setup last year with no issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tech Tonics
Maxxis, maxxis, maxxis, best quality for the money right now, specialized has fallen in quality.
Ikon in the front, ardent in the rear. 2.33 in the front and 2.25 in the rear, ultralight versions of each for XC.
Don't listen to the kids who say the Ikon is a rear tire.
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Originally Posted by The SnowShow
Currently running 2.3 HRII front, 2.25 Ardent rear. I'll agree you have to commit to your turns on the HRII. Also have a lighter setup with 2.4 Ardent front, 2.2 Ardent Race rear for more XCish days.
I really like the Maxxis Advantage for more XC type trails (Eagle and Buff Creek). Really light and reasonably grippy. Spin up nice and fast. Takes a while before they seal up though, so stay on top of the sealant.Quote:
Originally Posted by The SnowShow
Ditch the HRII for a DHF 2.5" and you'll never look back.Quote:
Originally Posted by teledad
And a DHRII for the rear.Quote:
Originally Posted by smmokan
Holy shit, I just finally got one, replacing a HRII. Faster. Grippier. Lighter.
Only one ride on it so far, in sorta' sloppy conditions, and I was blown away .
Omg. Shut up.Quote:
Originally Posted by DasBlunt
Your contributions actually make Dunfee-Gee-Are the place it is. Keep after it.Quote:
Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn
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DHR II a fast rolling rear tire? You cats are on catnip. I rode a DHR II F/R for two rides this spring, great on DH, shit everywhere else. Crossmark 2.25 EXO on back now, makes bike feel like a 22 lbs XC racer thing, and it actually works when descending as long as you realize the knobs are what they are and don't ask them to be like, y'know, Minions.
Funny, I did this same thing last year, and now I just switched back to the HRII on the rear. Granted, new tires are always great right off the bat but it seems to roll better for me / maintain more speed when I'm coasting.Quote:
Originally Posted by scrublover
Also ditched the DHR II up front and trying out a DHF. Haven't ridden it yet.
It's certainly faster compared to the HRII it replaced... It's paired with a 2.75 Dirt Wizard up front. For the bike they are on, they are working quite well.Quote:
Originally Posted by creaky fossil
I've tried a Crossmark - it sucked for around here. Run what you like, man.
Yesterday was first day on Minion SS. It's my new favorite rear tire. So fucking rad.
I've been digging my Minion SS, too. I wish it was offered in DD casing. The DH version is almost double the EXO.
I think they'll have that option available later this summer from what I hear.Quote:
Originally Posted by intheways