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Originally Posted by Bunion
BB Tool;
O.K. if you must fuck with your BB, I could see maybe having this tool, Upper end BBs are well sealed so they don't really need much attention .
Agreed.
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Free-wheel remover
I bought a Hyper-Cracker a bunch of years ago, still works great for FW removal. Was pretty cheap. Dunno about now.
There are so many different freewheels out there, that it's pretty hard to get by with one. It probably comes with a Shimano one, which is good because it will also remove the lockring on Shimano cassetes.
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1 chain whip,
Don"t need it... Free wheels cogs aren't held in place by a threaded fastener any more....When you spin off the lock ring, the whole stack is free.
You most certainly do need it in order to remove cassetes.
Sorry Plakespear, incorrect answer, Cassettes are held in place by an allen bolt, 12mm i believe, you must remove the axle and cones to access this bolt. Chain whips are to take apart older threaded on style free wheels. You need 2 of them to unscrew the smallest cog and then the stack comes apart. No big deal anyway... ;)
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2 headset spanner wrenches...
Don't Need them... Ahead set type head sets only need a couple of allen wrenches to adjust...
Assuming you have a threadless headset...
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1 multi-size spoke wrench,
P.O.S..... buy the little Harp shaped Spoke Wrenches, Red, Green, Black, they work way better....
Agreed
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2 cone wrenches
Ya really need 4, 2 sets of each.
You actually need more than that- different hubs require different sizes.
13,14,15,16mm are all that is needed, but 2 of what ever size your cones take.
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2 straight screwdrivers, 2 phillips head screwdrivers,
Buy these at local Hardware store....Cheap!
Agreed.
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1 crank arm remover,
Again, With new style Shimano cranks,an Allen wrench is all that is required....
Um, no it isn't. And What about if you have Campy cranks?
Sugino used to make a cool thing called an Autex system, the same as the Shimano type of allen fixing bolt. Put those on your Campy cranks and ta da!!!! no need for a crank puller... ever again!
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1 set of hex wrenches,
This may be O.K. but my bike only has a couple of things that require a wrench, 8MM & 10 MM do it all....
I've worked on plenty of bikes, including some I own, that require 9mm...
First thing I do with a new bike is change the fastener heads so that they are all the same and take as few of different size wrenches as possible, hence only the need for 8mm & 10 mm on my current ride.
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1 set tire levers,
I never use tire levers, if you must, a Quik-stik works very well, I pull the handle off mine, cut them real short and then put the handle on, 3" long works great, never have pinched a tube putting a tire bead back on.
I've had so many tires that are a bith to get off an on that one lever would never do it for me.
Look into a quik-stik, one is all you will ever need, seriously.
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1 adjustable wrench,
Nice to have, 2.99 for a 6" Crescent Wrench at Target
Need at least a 12" to get off freewheels.
Bench vice and free wheel tool, or a Hyper-cracker.
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1 adjustable lock ring spanner,
This is somewhat useful... first thing in the tool kit IMHO...
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pedal wrench/crank arm bolt remover,
The Pedal Wrench is useful, most crank bolts on MTBs costing more than $ 500.00 new, use Allen Bolts. If your Cranks are held on with nuts rather than bolts, that is one cheesy crank & BB set.
Or simply an older bike.
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I dunno, I hate pre-made up kits of any sort and this is the reason. Pick and chose your tools, you will have a smaller and more useful tool kit, and a couple of extra bucks left for a cool one after a ride.
Actually, I doubt you would be abe to buy all of those tools, or even just the ones you would need, for $40. That kit's a pretty good deal, and you can do most of your repairs with it. When you consider that a really good multi-tool costs 25-30 bucks, and doesn't work nearly as well as any of the tools in the kit, the kit's a good buy. You'll still need to augment it, but it's a hell of a start.
[I]You are certainly entitled to your opinion, just seems like a lot of extra crap you will never use if you are buying a simple tool kit to tune your own bike but what the hell...[/I]
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