First Aid/Ski survival kit

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Originally Posted by LHutz Esq

Also, I understand that he or some of his friends post here - so if anyone doesn't think this is an appropriate place to discuss this I will happily delete this post. That vid did convince me to start taking the tourniquet in my BC gear though.

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They went on a Blister podcast and talked more about the incident and it sounds like the ski strap used was 'perfectly ineffective' as a tourniquet in reducing the bleeding but not cutting off blood flow, cuz his artery hadn't actually been severed and if he'd been tourniqueted properly, he probably would have lost the leg. Which is to say, unless you really know what you're doing and when to use an tourniquet, you should really consider if you should be carrying it.

IMHO, IANAD, it's better to have a t and lose a leg then die.

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Originally Posted by rod9301

Have you tried to use the skeletool on binding screws? If not, you should

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I carry a small bit extender and common 4mm bits (P3, Phillips 2, T20/T25). I've used it on bindings several times.

I used to carry a Brooks Range mini ratchet tool but it occassionally wasn't long enough, and I've needed pliers before and not had them.

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Originally Posted by eSock

They went on a Blister podcast and talked more about the incident and it sounds like the ski strap used was 'perfectly ineffective' as a tourniquet in reducing the bleeding but not cutting off blood flow, cuz his artery hadn't actually been severed and if he'd been tourniqueted properly, he probably would have lost the leg. Which is to say, unless you really know what you're doing and when to use an tourniquet, you should really consider if you should be carrying it.

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IMO the learning here is not "don't carry or use a tourniquet". It's that everyone spending significant time in the backcountry ought to have at least have Stop the Bleed training so they know when a tourniquet is appropriate. And then to carry one.

My first aid kit is stocked similar to most lists I’ve seen here with a few modifications.

I don’t carry any narcotics, just various NSAIDs, Benadryl, and Immodium AD.

I’ve split my kit up into a small “oh shit” kit that’s just a CAT tourniquet, gloves, hemostatic Z-folded guaze, a knife, and a felt tip pen in a small zippered pouch. It goes into the top pocket of whatever pack I’m carrying that day whether it’s an 18l pack on chair lifts or my 40l touring pack. It’s the only first aid I carry on lifts because I figure ski patrol can get there in a few minutes and I only need to deal with things that could go sideways in a few minutes.

When I’m touring or sledding I carry the rest of the comfort care kit which includes the things needed for longer term care. This kit is kind of bulky and weighs about 2lbs. I think the most used items are the blister care (moleskin) and the ibuprofen. I also carry more bulky gauze and something I can make a sling out of. I carry cloth tape and electrical tape. The E-tape is nice because it will stick to itself ok enough in most conditions even when it’s wet. I’ll probably add an i-gel airway to my kit soon but they are bulky and I’ve been dragging my feet on it.

The rest of my “survival kit” includes an MSR Pocket Rocket with the smallest can of fuel available, two lighters, some TP folded up small, an InReach Mini, two-way radio with some useful local frequencies, a small kit of slings, cord, and carabiners, and an Alpine Threadworks rescue sled/tarp.

I have more tools with me on the sled and I always have a shovel and probe in winter conditions. The tarp plus a shovel can be used for shelter pretty easily. In addition to the obvious transport the tarp is also really good to trapping heat which is important with any serious injury in the backcountry.

I have had to drag someone out of the backcountry in a sled/tarp and I have needed (but didn’t have) a CPR mask/airway. Fortunately I haven’t had to stop any serious bleeding. The more time you spend in the mountains the more real these problems are, especially if you add snowmobiles to the mix.

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Originally Posted by doebedoe

IMO the learning here is not "don't carry or use a tourniquet". It's that everyone spending significant time in the backcountry ought to have at least have Stop the Bleed training so they know when a tourniquet is appropriate. And then to carry one.

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This seems ideal.

The Red Cross training is that if you, the responders, determine that the bleeding is life threatening and cannot be stopped with direct pressure, then apply a tourniquet. https://www.redcross.org/take-a-clas...VihjRTtUZ94ZNa

While we're on he subject of tourniquets... I have a CAT in my truck kit, but CATs are kind of oddly shaped and don't pack very well, if you're trying to carry one on your person. These guys make an awesome solution to that problem, and make it easy to carry a TQ (or pack more than one). Their "ETQ" is about the size of a small multi-tool or a G19 mag (and IIRC actually designed to fit in a sidecar/mag carrier). Considerably smaller/easier to carry than a CAT, made in the USA, etc

https://www.snakestaffsystems.com/bu...gP3U8LLMXQcsYv