So this does look cool but what is with the testimonials? They seem a bit contrived esp. the pics. WTF is with the open-mouthed smiley guy?
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So this does look cool but what is with the testimonials? They seem a bit contrived esp. the pics. WTF is with the open-mouthed smiley guy?
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In October we replaced our 15 year old Simmonds because it had developed a couple of body trenches. Our brand new Serta ($1500 if I remember correctly) now has even deeper body trenches. Total waste of money, we will be warrantying it.
When I bought my new set the salesman talked to me about industry standards re: sagging. I only half listened but got the general understanding that it is acceptable (to the industry) for mattresses to sag up to an inch or more. This 2008 article speaks to that:
Hard to prove a mattress is defective
If there's one thing an emergency room doctor needs, it's a good night's sleep. At least that's what Mark Melrose thought when he bought a new mattress set last November.
But the New Jersey doctor didn't get what he expected. Instead, he complained, "for the first time in my life, I developed back pain."
Melrose blames his back problem on the mattress set. "It was sagging," he explained.
The mattress set cost $1,245. Sealy, which makes and markets bedding under the Sealy, Sealy Posturepedic, Stearns & Foster and Basset brands, made it.
The set Melrose selected came with a 10-year warranty that covers, among other problems, sagging and body indentations of 1.5 inches or more. So Melrose contacted the retailer, which agreed to inspect the mattress.
But that didn't go well.
"When the inspector came, he checked for a body indentation by stretching a string across the mattress and measuring the indentation with a tape measure," Melrose said. The hollow was an inch deep, too shallow for the inspector to label the mattress defective under the terms of the warranty.
It frustrated Melrose. "The indentation in the mattress isn't the problem," he explained. "The problem is the sagging that occurs when you put weight on the mattress. It sags so much when I lay down I fall into the middle of the bed every night."
Many consumers complain about sagging mattresses, but few are able to persuade the manufacturer the bedding is defective. Sealy, for instance, claims it follows an industry standard to measure sleep sets.
"Sealy does not measure with weight applied as mattresses are designed to conform to your body when you lay on them," the company explained, adding that it offers mattresses of varying comfort levels. "Some sleep sets will compress more than others as softer comfort levels are chosen. This is not a defect. It is a comfort choice."
Sealy representatives suggested Melrose "chose a comfort level that wasn't appropriate." However, it replaced the mattress as a gesture of goodwill.
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Here are a couple of other articles that might be of interest (the 2nd link to "Sleep Like the Dead" has GREAT info for anyone looking for a new mattress):
How to Measure Mattress Sag
Mattress Warranties: What You Should Know
This is the right train of thought, 8h/day = 1/3 of your life, don't skimp, get some quality comfort for your back, worth every penny.
Try to find a place with a 90 day satisfaction guarantee so that if the mattress doesn't agree with you can try something else.
however $1500 is cheep comparison to the 0.0000001% option, hows $175,000 sound?
http://www.dailyfinance.com/on/luxur...ess-royal-bed/
Here's a comparison chart I know you all want to check out:
Mattress Types and Sex Suitability: Ratings and Comparisons
We got a tempur knockoff and it's been ok. I think when we move to our new place we're going to get the kimpton bed. Spendy, but every night in a kimpton hotel has been the best sleep I get.
We have a firm Ikea memory foam-style mattress. I think we paid about $400 a few years ago and it has held up well.
If you like a foam or latex mattress, the nicer Ikea ones still seem like a very nice deal. Their swankiest latex mattress is only $600.
I had a Stearns Foster and had one of those inspectors come out - TWICE - with that string test. The second time, I convinced him to warranty the damn thing. I had such back problems from that mattress that it would take about an hour to get straight in the morning. The inspector said to me that of course my mattress sags in the middle, it was because I was single. Huh?
Now I have a tempur-pedic and absolutely love it. It's been a couple years, I got it when I pulled my psoas and really needed something supportive. I like this particular model because it's got bamboo or something and so it doesn't generate as much heat.
Well, then, OK.
Awkward question.
The dudes don't like the tempurpedic for the pushin'. What say the ladies?
Wait, so is a latex mattress a foam rubber?
I didn't say I didn't like it for pushin', I said you need to throw an extra pillow under there if you wanna do it right. :D
Latex mattresses come in several categories and fiber content. Start here:
Latex Mattress Reviews, Ratings and Comparisons
Nah - start and end here: http://www.sleeplikethedead.com/mattress-sex.html :D:D:D
Shouldn't this thread be combined with the "old fucks need to go to sleep" thread?
The sleep number is totally modular, I have a loft sleeping area in my condo with a near vertical ladder to get up to it. The base comes in several parts and goes together easily, the two air mattresses are very compact. About as easy a it gets. Truly a bed in a box, actually its two boxes.
Har.
All this mattress talk had me evaluating mine this morning as I stole my last couple of minutes rest before getting up to feed. I have to say it IS quite comfortable and snuggley but that wasn't always the case. When I first got it the mattress was quite stiff and cold to sleep on until it broke in after about a month (salesman actually told me to walk on it to help break it in - I did not). Right now I'd say it is perfect. It does not seem to have any sagging, body trenching or edge breakdown going on (I do rotate it regularly).
I believe the mattress I got two years ago is what is referred to as a "plush firm" (not a pillow top). It is from the Beautyrest Black Line and was called "Camille" at the store I bought it from (Side note: in an effort to mess with everyone, mattress manufacturers give the same mattress different names for each retailer. WTF?). The store carried 5 different mattresses at different price points in this line each coming in a firm, plush and plush pillowtop version. The one I bought was the middle of the road. As I mentioned before I spent a week trying the one I ended up with against other brands including the Tempurpedic and I brought my own pillow too (I read somewhere that it was a good idea to test it with the pillow you sleep with).
Researching online it seems there are a lot of complaints across the board for all manufacturers. The mattress I have has more than a few consumer complaints as does the one I have in my guest room which all my guests rave about (Englander made in Portland OR $900). Seems like a bit of a crap shoot - you pay your money, you take your chances and hope for the best. If I get 7 years out of this mattress I'll be happy. The way I look at it 7 years of use would work out to .47 cents a night and that's not too shabby.
For those wanting yet another site to research mattresses try this: http://www.qmattresses.com/
I have a TempurPedic and if I could do it over, I'd get something else. They are over-priced for the product you receive. But, they are great at marketing.
Another site for research; http://www.themattressunderground.com/
I'd recco foam or latex vs. springs. One advantage (not sure if it applies to you) is that if you (a) are a restless sleeper and (b) have a significant other and (c) significant other wakes easily, then the motion isolation of foam and latex is worth its weight in gold.
Of course, if you'd like to sleep in the spare room (or drive significant other to spare room), please disregard.
We got a Keetsa mattress. My wife found them because she wanted a 'green' company. 6 years later, it's still a good bed. And reasonably priced. All memory foam and less than half the price of the tempurpedic bed. We have two.
Man, I just did a first shop at the local Sleepy's. First, the Tempurpedic is is impressive. Unfortuantely, I jumped on a 5000 dollar model as a first test, and that was the hallmark for the rest of the session. Nice bed, but, no, no 5000 bucks. They were pricing the Cloud Supreme somewhere past $2500. I liked a Beautyrest "Luxury Firm super pillow top" something or other http://www.sleepys.com/simmons-beaut...6.html#start=7 at somewhere between 1299 and 1999, if you watched the cards move real fast, if you know what I mean. Crazy business. I remember reading that the NY state attorney general was going to go after this industry and the chaotic naming, but, that didn't seem to work out too well.
So it seems that $1500 ain't no 1% pricing, Iceman. More like Lexus land.
ever seen ads by mattress stores where they claim that if you find a lower advertised prices on one of their mattresses, they will match the price and give you back money (or something similar)? Ever wondered how they could be so confident that they could do that? Because they know that you won't be able to find a lower advertised price on THAT mattress (because the same mattress has a different name at every other store for miles).
montanaskier notwithstanding, mattress salesman tend to be about on par with used car salesman.
I sorta gathered that. He wasn't very good though. He didn't close. It was awkward. He was like a very bad Al Pacino in Glengarry Glen Ross. What makes it more awkward is two guys dealing over mattresses.
I have two months to dabble, if the mortgage happens. No rush.
I think you should order that Caspersleep man. Hell I bought one since you started this thread, get moving.
I was just messing with you about the one-percenter stuff, hoping it made you squirm a little.
Which is the best kind of mattress for forcing your not very cuddly dog to cuddle?
This happened with the mattress that my parents bought to convert my old bedroom into a slightly classier guest room. They set it up, a few people slept in it (probably not more than 20 nights total), and it developed sag in the center. They called the store, they came, and measured it (uncompressed I think) and said the sag was within expected limits.
I put a thin board or piece of folded up cardboard in the middle to compensate a bit for the sag and it's made it comfortable enough for visits, but I'd be annoyed if I'd purchased it as my only bed.
I had mattress replaced after a sag test. First we were told the "mattress wasn't properly set up" and didn't qualify for warranty, to which my wife said "your delivery guys set up the mattress!" Wasn't set up properly my ass. It's a fucking mattress.
My tempurpedic is going on 7 years and is literally perfect. They are expensive but I'm hooked and won't go back assuming I ever have to replace it. My last mattress barely hit 4 years and felt like a mack truck ran over it.....
From a support perspective I LOVE it, I'm a big guy and sleep on my sides and before I got it my arms would numb up from time to time from the spring pressure. This literally has not happened once since I got the 'pedic.
[QUOTE=KQ;4243692]When I bought my new set the salesman talked to me about industry standards re: sagging. I only half listened but got the general understanding that it is acceptable (to the industry) for mattresses to sag up to an inch or more. This 2008 article speaks to that:
Hard to prove a mattress is defective
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Good luck getting a box mattress back into the box to return. Buy your mattresses from Costco, just for the ease of return if you don't like them.
Both my parents have Tempurpedics in their guest rooms and I love sleeping on those mattresses. They kick the shit out of our fancy Sterns and Foster mattress that I toss and turn on all night. I have never noticed any difficulty rolling over on them.
I love my tempurpedic as I said earlier but their prices are pretty insane. You can spend $7500 on a Queen mattress! (which probably contains like $1.29 worth of foam). come on man.
That adjustable thing was a little over the top. Maybe when I'm 72. Walker at the ready.
Anybody hear of this: http://saatvamattress.com ?
Online only. Very fair price.
Yeah but do they ship it to you in a box?