http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/tub...st9933625.html
So stoked ...
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Gonna get me one :biggrin:
Looks like the tires are Bud n Lou, so it will take some wide meat. I like how Special Ed removed the tire logos, typical.Quote:
Originally Posted by gravitylover
If they pull a "we'll have them available in October" thing I'm gonna be bummed. I want it yesterday *-*
Uggh... Like I figured, won't be available to ship until about Oct 10th.
why are you committed to the special-ed offering? lots of great companies making fatties.
Probably because he works at a Specialized dealership....Quote:
Originally Posted by Tech Tonics
moar peeps getting fat these dayz
Cdale supposed to have one on theway2.
Well I suppose that makes sense!Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
Just for the record, I've been riding the shit outta my mukluk2, even on group rides at a fast pace.
And man oh man that bike is just goofy fun. An absolute blast to ride. Not fast, but not prohibitively slow either.
Also, I just heard the Durango Cyclery has a medium mukluk2 for $1800. I think that's a good deal?
Trek just announced the Farley yesterday. 135/170 4" tire and sub 30#. Again, available early October.
I will be out in Ogden Monday and Tuesday at the QBP dealer show so will get to see all the new Surly and Salsa fatties. Maybe I'll come home with one...
Rode a Surly Pugsley at lunch today down at the LBS. Sweet Fancy Moses, those are fun! I'm getting one, no doubt. I'm probably go with a Moonlander or something as wide for when the snow flies around here. I should be able to build one cheapish as I have an X9 drivetrain laying around, several bars and a set of Formula RXs.
907 coming out with a carbon fat frame this fall/winter. Looks nice from the FB pics. Supposed to mate with their new thru axle hubs. Sounds like $2300ish.
Now all we need are some affordable carbon rims and that RS springer fork.
Well, in the last two days I rode all of the fat and mid fat offerings from Salsa and Surly at Snowbasin. That new Beargrease is the shizzle!! What a fun bike. Handles pretty much like a regular mt bike, climbs better than any hardtail I've ever ridden because you just can't break traction and it rolls over just about anything in a fairly predictable manner. Even the less expensive of the two is well under 30 pounds and there are plenty of opportunities to make it lighter without breaking the bank. Everything else feels sluggish compared to it but not always in a bad way. The Muk doesn't climb as well but is otherwise super nice to ride and descends extremely well but you do need to pay attention in the corners, it likes to exit wide.
All of the Surly bikes were fun, the mid fats like the new Instigator are cool and I though t a better alternative to a 650B if you're not worried about the heft. The Moonlander is a hoot but a lot of work. If you're patient it delivers for sure but you need to get used to the tandem bus feeling and it doesn't accelerate going downhill unless you pedal hard.
I have a Beargrease on the way :biggrin:
Oh, if anyone was wondering it looks like front sus for fatties is less than two months away now. Nobody was as forthcoming with the info as I would have liked but I expected that and with a little bit of arm twisting in the form of super cold beer on a hot afternon I got the answers I needed.
^^i wanna slap that instigator wheelset in a suspension frame.
You're gonna love the beargrease, you described climbing on a fattie to a T. Hope the graphics are better on the '14. I scrubbed mine off with acetone and it's all murdered out except for the blue rims.
Congrats, now order up a growler cage
pics
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and this was as far up Snowbasin as my fat ass was willing to pedal the Beargrease
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me want this next, growler bike
http://www.jruiter.com/transport/
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We have them in stock now.
It doesn't look like either the beargrease or the Trek have rack-mounts?
for me, one of the things I like most about my fatty is the ability to load it down with gear and use it for bikepacking.
I am guessing Tahoe woulda been a blast on a fattie today. 5-7" of snow on dirt.
Salsa no but the Trek has them in the rear just above the level the caliper is at. See the (fuzzy) silver dot, that's it. There is also a threaded hole in the bridge so you can run a rack that has a center mount option.
A rack on a carbon frame?
?? The Trek is aluminum. Rack on carbon frame = backpack :)
anyone doing any climbing on these? say in the 1,500 to 2K foot ballpark? if so, how much slower are you? is it miserable?
On my last longish ride I climbed 2600' with a starting elevation of 8500'. My bike was probably around 45 lbs (full frame bag). I was slow, but I'm always slow. The only time a fat bike will be faster than other bikes is on soft terrain, or with some abnormal motor on it. I can safely say that I always have fun on my Moonlander.Quote:
Originally Posted by lph
This - granted, I have nowhere near that amount of climbing around me, but still...Quote:
Originally Posted by crashtestdummy
It motors along pretty well on flat/down stuff, but yeah, slooooow climbing. There is just now way to get around the weight of the rims/tires + huge contact patch.
Despite that, it's really fun. Pretty much reserved for solo play rides, or social non-cough up your lung group rides for me. I'm hoping for lots of snow this year!
I did a 40 mile, 5000 ft climbing day on a surly moonlander two weeks ago. It wasn't noticeably different or more miserable that on any other bike.Quote:
Originally Posted by lph
I did a bunch of 3-4K climbs this summer on my 40lb Pugs. Sure I was slower, but it wasn't miserable. I think I added maybe 15 minutes to an hour and a half ride. The change in perspective and the on-trail comments definitely helped improve my attitude.Quote:
Originally Posted by lph
I had an ~80 year old hiker tell me that if he got a bike, he wanted one like mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by YourMomJustCalled
They are slower to climb but I can get up stuff on my fat bike (due to greater traction) that I have trouble with on my 650b Stumpy.
Anyone have experience on the Surly Krampus? Looks perfect for the ltd. snow riding I partake in (packed XC ski trails, round valley in PC) but could also be fun to ride with the wife in the Summer. I feel like a full fatty will sit for 8 months of the year if I buy one vs the krampus as a year round bike. Build from Surly is decent and from what I've read I can drop close to 4 lbs by going tubeless and replacing the bar/stem + seat/post.
You can get a fat frame that will allow you to run both the Rabbit Hole/ Knard and a Clownshoe/ Bud n Lou, best of both worlds.Quote:
Originally Posted by ridevt
What I enjoy about them is the smooooove ride. Those fat tires are like riding on pillows. While skate skiing up the Susitna I ran into a guy with studded tires. Has anyone done this?
Understood, but that's a tone more $ (2 wheelsets and rubber) and I don't think I'll need the 4.0's. If there's fresh snow, I'm on my sled or touring. In the Winter, my riding is usually when Avy conditions are bad or the resorts are crowded. I've ridden my 29 HT aired down for the past few seasons but having moved to a prime winter trailhead, I'm thinking something like the Krampus would be ideal. I can then also change my steel 29HT into a SS commuter.Quote:
Originally Posted by crashtestdummy
I rode Nokian Extremes studded snows on my 26" bike. The silicon carbide studs are far superior to steel wood screws that most homemade tire use. I mostly ride the fatty now and it's better on everything but pure ice.Quote:
Originally Posted by HansJob
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by lph
Seriously: fatbikes are slow all around. It takes me nearly twice as long to get anywhere (an exaggeration, but not by much) so I don't feel the need to ride mine unless I can't ride my regular MTB. This probably gets a bit easier if you have an expensive bike that's lighter and has drilled rims (unlike mine) or a rear tire that rolls faster.
That being said, you can blast right through this early-season "too much snow to ride, not enough to ski". And yes, they're fine on the road for anything but black ice. It's slow, but I can get to and from the store/post office without too much trouble.
I almost sold mine, but now that it's shoulder season I'm starting to ride it again.
Support on the chubbie chasing. I ride a lot with dog en tow and the fattie opens up quite a bit of terrain for exploration purposes.
I got a screamer deal on a pugs, built up as a 2x7 with drop bars, skeptical @ first, but I've grown to love all the different hand positions (not an innuendo).
I really dig the steel feel, but tried my buddy's fatback and... I fear I may be paying that pugsley deal forward to harness the magic on that ak aluminum beauty. I like the reistance to rust idea as well as the ability to run 29ers with some slight adaptation.
As far as componentry goes... I don't geek out over that shit. I dig the simple fun ride and ability to go to and fro on the daily with a fattie between my legs.
Get u some
Cheers
I went and did it, brought home a Farley last night :) I have a plan too, it's just a touch small for me but my wife is 4" shorter than I am so (hopefully) she loves it and then I can get a Fatboy in a few weeks when they come available :biggrin:
I'll get some pics up later after I get a chance to dirty it up some.
Heheheheh
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Makes "the same old trail" a giggly good time :)
Climbs like a mt goat too!