Sorry to hear, bern. Hope you were not caught up in the Dewey mess. Where are you located? I have been out of school about the same amount of time and I know how tough the market can be.
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Gah, just finishing 2L year and I should not have read this thread. :eek:
Good luck to everyone who needs it.
Hmm. This sucks. I've had the same problem trying to find experience while in law school! I just finished my 2nd year in a JD/MBA program - and while almost all of my MBA classmates have summer internships i tried getting a law one and nothing opened up, I've been going to tons of informational interviews and networking events and still nothing. I guess it might be a good time to switch gears and leverage my MBA
A bit more? I'd love tondo transactional work an was hoping to get some legal experience now so O can do that..ultimately want to work in house..now I'm not sure what will happen
bern, what kind of law did you practice? My girlfriend's father works here: http://www.tbhr-law.com/ and might be a possible avenue.
Just get a law job and angle toward your real goal later. I have a friend I used to work with and he started with litigation at a little shop, went to IP litigation at a big shop, then semi-transactional, to Asst GC, to GC at a startup, to GC for a VC company.
I went from PI to insurance/public entity litigation to education/public entity litigation to public entity employment counseling and labor negotiations.
Get started in something. Anything. Work hard and keep applying to your next gig.
real estate, just sayin. no better way to make money. zero dollars spent on college. don't need it.
good luck
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Mostly professional liability, construction, and commercial litigation. I'll have to check out that firm. They seem to do similar work. Found a summer gig at a decent small firm that may turn into a permanent position. Also starting my own firm on the side. So things seem to have worked out for now.
Found a gig in the Philly area with the OGC at a big design firm/manufacturer for now, mostly related to international trade compliance stuff. Keeping my eye on transactional/fin reg long-term but definitely happy to be working for now, plus now I get to take the PA bar in July and (hopefully) get another admission under my belt.
Thanks for all the input and best of luck to others in the same boat.
I wasn't part of a joint degree program, but from my search for transactional work (mainly M&A and restructuring), it's an area that's definitely still slow on both the legal and business sides. There are deals and reorgs happening, but at a pace that's just enough to keep firms and banks from taking on new bodies, and if they do need anyone it won't be from anywhere but the established pipelines. One thing I found helpful, even if only to meet people and keep up on the type of law that interests you, would be to look into transaction-related committees in the nearest major city's bar association, and then get in touch to see if there's any way you can attend meetings, do some volunteer time for them, or just go to their CLE programs for free (since you don't need the credits right now).
Congrats man. Must be a relief.
Want my outline for International Commercial Transactions? INCOTERMS MOTHERFUCKER.
Heh. You are most welcome to it- I doubt there have been many changes to the law of the high seas since 2005.
First job is an in-house gig? Officially consider yourself spoiled.
I went in-house last year at BlackRock and didn't like it- not enough variety, plus you get treated much better when you're a profit center than when you're a cost center- but fortunately was able to get the hell out. Although it was a great gig on paper, it was a mistake for me and I'm very happy to be back at a firm. That said, every situation and personality mesh differently, not to mention I'd still be there if I hadn't been able to get my old job back or had no other options.
Again, nice work OP.
OP. Congrats on the job. In-house can be a really nice gig.
Bump. Somebody fucking kill me please.
Great. As you were.