Ogdens

If your only two criteria for measuring a city were cost of living and outdoor recreation I'd think Ogden would be at the top of the list, but if you add in unsightly buildings/bums etc... it loses ground quickly, for now.

I love the place. It's home of the nations largest historic district and I'm an old home junky. Most of the homes are beat to hell or cut-up into 6 units, but more and more of them restored every year. The house we currently live in couldn't be built today for under a mil, but we got it for 160K (5,000 sq ft). Here are just a few photos (I need to add more): http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...8&l=98e74dbda6

Here's a recent Boulder article that's really an Ogden article:
http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_18194889

I could spend days writing all the reason why I like the place. If it were already completely restored and squeaky clean it wouldn't be for me. I couldn't afford it. Right now it's so cheap that not only can I have a pretty crazy quality of life, but I also have the capacity to affect real change. Between myself and the group of friends/family I work with we've already restored 35+ properties in town. It's pretty cool to have that ability to change something and there are a ton of others doing the exact same thing. I think the city has already hit critical mass for turning around (in terms of number of people here making it happen). It will still take years to do, but the people are here.

Urban Nastiness (in ogdens)
-10...................-5....................0...................5......................10
East Hampton NY.....Draper, UT.......Green Bay........Ogden......Baltimore....East St. Louis

heh...

It's like PH. Ogden is not neutral!

Urban Nastiness (in ogdens)
-10...................-5....................0...................5......................10
Orem.......Draper..............Murray.........Salt Lake.....WVC...Ogden..Magna..Kearns

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Originally Posted by meatdrink9

Between myself and the group of friends/family I work with we've already restored 35+ properties in town. It's pretty cool to have that ability to change something and there are a ton of others doing the exact same thing. I think the city has already hit critical mass for turning around (in terms of number of people here making it happen). It will still take years to do, but the people are here.

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I'm really impressed by the pictures of your place. I'm breaking myself in restoring and fixing up an arts and crafts foursquare in DC. Hoping to cash out here and move to Ogden in about a year. Hopefully you'll have one more old house fixer-upper guy in the neighborhood soon enough.

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Originally Posted by skifishbum

I'm still confused though as to rate this thread -2 or +2 Icemans

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...sigged! greatness :)

how many ogdens does vernal, ut get? our time there seemed pretty shady, too... although not as shady as ogden.

also massadona, colorado seemed to have a moderately high odgen factor, however it might have just been the cracktastic motel (ie- some hicks house who put up a motel sign) we stopped at to crash while we were driving through kinda late one night. they had three ENORMOUS dogs sleeping on couches and 4 even more ginormous guys laid out snoozing on the floors with their stomachs hanging out next to empty bottles and shotguns in the living room when i went to check in at the "reception desk". i was like... uhhh... i think we'll keep driving, thanks!

later i found out right around there is where some hitchhiking snowboarder got picked up and killed, sadly...

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Originally Posted by Sirshredalot

I'm really impressed by the pictures of your place. I'm breaking myself in restoring and fixing up an arts and crafts foursquare in DC. Hoping to cash out here and move to Ogden in about a year. Hopefully you'll have one more old house fixer-upper guy in the neighborhood soon enough.

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Very cool. I love the arts crafts style places. There are quite a few here in town. Give me shout whenever you have questions about the area. I just spent 2+ hours chatting with a new neighbor who's doing the same things I'm doing on an even larger scale. He just bought a 10,000 sq ft place and is in the process of buying several others.

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Originally Posted by BeanDip4All

how many ogdens does vernal, ut get?

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Yreka, CA?

I don't know...I remember driving through but I didn't really experience it. You tell me. :)

I have always been a fan of Yeti's Ogden.
Bean dip"s too
although neither is from near ogden...
so again as a quality
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wheras MD9 seems to have very little Ogden at all.
or maybe he is to young for me to check out his Ogden...

Saw frozen's Ogden a few times, but not sure many have.
well maybe recently

Sincerely hope you find your happiness and your place Yeti. Thanks for sharing. You're not the first person to feel that way...though your history is obviously unique. Best wishes man. Beers on me if you're ever in MN or anywhere nearby for that matter.

Ogden Ogden Ogden Ogden Ogden






Ogden

was going to see where West Valley rated but then saw the graph.
Tooele's rating in Ogdens?

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Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy

If you think about it, Ogden isn't really a benchmark here, it could change. It could get a tram from weber state right to sb and homeland security could round up the mexicans and the dogfood factory could close...I mean that could all happen. Ogden could swing hard around right into the negative ogdens.

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I wrote that like 5 years ago annnnnnd:

http://www.visitutah.com/things-to-d..._medium=Social

boom goes the dynamite.

Ogden....continuing its long, dutiful march deeper into the negative Ogdens. It's all Meatdrink9's fault.

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Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy

I wrote that like 5 years ago annnnnnd:

http://www.visitutah.com/things-to-d..._medium=Social

boom goes the dynamite.

Ogden....continuing its long, dutiful march deeper into the negative Ogdens. It's all Meatdrink9's fault.

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When I went a few years back to visit the Meat Bros, I liked Ogden. Having breakfast in the little dinners downtown and talking to the old locals, man they had good stories of Ogden in the old days. Not sure I could ever live there (spoiled from living by the beach) but I liked it and the people I met. And I really liked Snow Basin.

If I remember right you have fought wild land fire for the fed for a while is this correct?????

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Originally Posted by telehacker

If I remember right you have fought wild land fire for the fed for a while is this correct?????

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Yes.

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Originally Posted by telehacker

If I remember right you have fought wild land fire for the fed for a while is this correct?????

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Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy

Yes.

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Can you help me get a job?

;)

Thanks for the bump. I should have looked for this when we were discussing the scale in another thread a bit ago. Just read through it and I think I've read too many Ogdens for one day

The more you think you understand it the less you actually understand it. And vice versa.

for me, Ogden today is feeling like 7 Ogdens with this inversion. Apocalyptic orange night sky, frozen landscape, & it's got me sick enough that I'm avoiding bourbon.

Two weeks ago, I would have given Ogden a -2 Ogdens with the constant snow, happy dogs romping on the foothills, happy old school rat pack ski sessions, and downtown shenanigans.

I can't believe I never saw this thread, much less remembered my password.

Hey J, my numbers the same. Ice, same. Cheers

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Originally Posted by Tresckow

for me, Ogden today is feeling like 7 Ogdens with this inversion. Apocalyptic orange night sky, frozen landscape, & it's got me sick enough that I'm avoiding bourbon.

Two weeks ago, I would have given Ogden a -2 Ogdens with the constant snow, happy dogs romping on the foothills, happy old school rat pack ski sessions, and downtown shenanigans.

I can't believe I never saw this thread, much less remembered my password.

Hey J, my numbers the same. Ice, same. Cheers

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Woah, a Tresckow sighting. I haven't run into you on the trails in a while. When you're feeling better lets get together for a dog walk and whiskey session below the alpenglow. I agree with you, when the pollution is bad around here it's the only thing that really dampens my spirit on Ogden. Otherwise, it's pretty much perfect for a home base.

Whoa, what's up Ned? Long time man. We're still at Soli, my number hasn't changed either, give me a call or hit me up on here if you come down that way.

What? When someone is feeling bad, especially someone that is kind and nice and good I try to help if I can.

I don't know why you all think I'm an evil person.

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Originally Posted by zion zig zag

Woah, a Tresckow sighting. I haven't run into you on the trails in a while. When you're feeling better lets get together for a dog walk and whiskey session below the alpenglow. I agree with you, when the pollution is bad around here it's the only thing that really dampens my spirit on Ogden. Otherwise, it's pretty much perfect for a home base.

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Originally Posted by Tresckow

for me, Ogden today is feeling like 7 Ogdens with this inversion. Apocalyptic orange night sky, frozen landscape, & it's got me sick enough that I'm avoiding bourbon.

Two weeks ago, I would have given Ogden a -2 Ogdens with the constant snow, happy dogs romping on the foothills, happy old school rat pack ski sessions, and downtown shenanigans.

I can't believe I never saw this thread, much less remembered my password.

Hey J, my numbers the same. Ice, same. Cheers

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Wait a minute I thought zzz was tresckow. Do both of you climb? I met one of you two going up to the middle/grand teton in the middle of the night sometime fall 2008. Shit. I'm so confused

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Originally Posted by abraham

Wait a minute I thought zzz was tresckow. Do both of you climb? I met one of you two going up to the middle/grand teton in the middle of the night sometime fall 2008. Shit. I'm so confused

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Hey, I remember that! Yeah, that was me. Tresckow lives around the way from me (like two blocks) and I frequently see him in the foothills.

Hold up for one second, is this real?

"I was good at it right away from the beginning at age 11 and it came at a time when I was good at nothing else and life was a nightmare. My dad had murdered my step mother and brother and killed himself, it was all over the news. I had people all over me in school every day, I had to fight in the halls and outside of school. I had not one friend for years growing up. Everyone I was friends with in my neighborhood just stopped talking to me after 5th grade. I was a dorky, nerdy, mess of a kid with terrible shit with my schizophrenic murderous dad and I needed to be good at something so I just grabbed onto that one thing I was best at and made it who I was for 20+ years."

If it is....1. I'm sorry for your experience, and 2. Can you write? Because that is one hell of a story.

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Originally Posted by RaisingArizona

2. Can you write? Because that is one hell of a story.

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There is a thread, maybe two about New Mexico somewhere here. That is where you will find your answer.

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Originally Posted by zion zig zag

Hey, I remember that! Yeah, that was me. Tresckow lives around the way from me (like two blocks) and I frequently see him in the foothills.

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Great! I'm not completely crazy. Every now and then I see you post and wonder why you changed your name. Now I know you didn't.

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Great! I'm not completely crazy. Every now and then I see you post and wonder why you changed your name. Now I know you didn't.

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Well I did at some point. I was flykdog for a long time.

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Originally Posted by RaisingArizona

...and 2. Can you write? Because that is one hell of a story.

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Hands down one of the very best writers here. Search Jong.

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Originally Posted by Tresckow

for me, Ogden today is feeling like 7 Ogdens with this inversion. Apocalyptic orange night sky, frozen landscape, & it's got me sick enough that I'm avoiding bourbon.

Two weeks ago, I would have given Ogden a -2 Ogdens with the constant snow, happy dogs romping on the foothills, happy old school rat pack ski sessions, and downtown shenanigans.

I can't believe I never saw this thread, much less remembered my password.

Hey J, my numbers the same. Ice, same. Cheers

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Yes! Out of the woodwork! I know you're sitting on years of powder shots. Post 'em up! Hope you're well mang. I miss you guys.

Flashback. Ogden has become quite a bit better in the past 5 years. I agree with ZZZ and Tresckow's recent assessments. Air quality right now is the biggest drag, but we're still far better off than SLC. I was down there on Wednesday and felt like I was lost on the set of Blade Runner. Going solar and EV asap.

This bump begs the question: how many Ogdens is Ogden now??

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Originally Posted by jono

This bump begs the question: how many Ogdens is Ogden now??

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Approximately infinity.

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Originally Posted by iceman

The more you think you understand it the less you actually understand it. And vice versa.

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Ogden should be 1.0 on the scale
Cities can then be expressed in terms of Ogdens

Better cities should be > 1.0
Lesser cities should be < 1.0
0.0 is a limit that decimals approach but never reach because zero is non-existence

so,
0.0 < (worse than Ogden) < (Ogden = 1.0) < (better than Ogden)

Telluride is 6 Og, (or whatever factor) "6 Ogdens"
Magna is 0.2 Og, (or whatever factor) "1/5 of an Ogden"

^^^ I think that's backwards.

Even if you replaced every crunchy, granola-huffing, trustafari in Telluride with squirrely trigger-happy methtucky cranksters it still wouldn’t be 6 Ogdens.
Get real up in here.