Best apres ride lunch; Moonlight Pizza slice and beer for $7
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Best apres ride lunch; Moonlight Pizza slice and beer for $7
That's not a pizza:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rideski
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THAT'S A PIZZA:
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Thin crust is for appetizers.
https://youtu.be/jCgYMFtxUUw?si=IHXHPFXE2PUGjKzkQuote:
Originally Posted by Roxtar
New Yawkas, MehQuote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIYQuote:
Originally Posted by Roxtar
One of those pictures is a pizza, the other is a pizza casserole.
Monarch Mountain recently took over ownership/operations at the crest. They totally revamped the welcome center & shop, there is now a restaurant up there, no more kachina dolls and dream catchers... The gondy is running for hikers and bikers.
That's been my go-to for years, but in the last few months things seem to be deteriorating. They're severely understaffed and the service shows. Things are tough all over in that regard, but it seems to have affected Moonlight more than most. I gave up and walked out day before yesterday after being ignored and seeing most tables had water and nothing else in front of them. I'm looking for an alternative now that isn't out on Hwy 50 or over in Poncha. Until I find something else, Benson's is solid, and Amicas has stepped up their game (although I still miss Il Vecino). But on the positive side, the foothills trails were hero dirt after Monday night's rain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roxtar
Yeah, rode Agate a couple of days ago and stopped in. The biking/camping/hiking selection is actually really solid. There was a really nice Patagucci shell there at 40% off that I was half tempted at.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jax
Salida is cool for sure. I wouldn't personally say their trail system is 2nd to none, I don't think it scratches the surface of what I have here in CB/Gunny, but it's really good.
Also, another "no" on the pizza casserole thing.
We were there about a month ago and it was good. Hopefully it's more of a hit and miss thing rather than just downward.Quote:
Originally Posted by NuMexJoe
Agree on Pizza Rio. Really good NY style.Quote:
Originally Posted by stapes
I totally love Hartman Rocks but at the risk of heresy I'm going to call the CB trail system overated.Quote:
Originally Posted by goldenboy
Yeah, I said it.
Couple reasons, IMO, why:
1) Have they built anything new to speak of in the last ten years? Maybe? I don't know but I haven't heard of anything.
2) Probably due to #1, there really isn't an actual trail system of any kind. Everything is splintered and kind of haphazard. No cohesion. The closest thing to a trail network would be the stuff off Brush Creek.
3) Piggy-backing on #2, Yes, the classics like 401, Teocali, and Dr Park are awesome but getting to them?! Seriously?!
I get it, they were all made 20 tears ago by moto guys who probably wanted a 5-10 mile slog-from-hell to keep people away. It's working on me.
That's kind of the story with all the trails there. Even fun in-town-ish stuff like Gunsight and Snodgrass require endless miles of peddling meh to get to.
Everything feels like 10 miles of crap to ride 5 miles of good. The phrase, "Is the juice worth the squeeze?" comes to mind.
I'm not saying CB doesn't have good trails. It just feels like they've been living off their reputation for a while and it might be time to get back in the game.
I love the town. Super funky, albeit somewhat full-of-itself, vibe but, IMO, the best trail system in that area is 1/2 hour south.
Is that a thing? :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by slcdawg
In college, I remember being broke and making "pizzas" with tortillas. Kinda seems like the same thing. In fact, don't you even fold it like a taco to eat?
Roxtar likes living dangerously...
:D
The closer you fly to the sun, the funner it gets :FIREdevil
Disagree on some of your specific points, but agree with this overall. Other regions that are building will surpass it soon or already have. While we're ranking trail systems/regions, Salida is 2nd to many. If "The Sea to Sky Corridor" is an allowable entry, there's very little that compares.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roxtar
I'll give you that. In fact, you're right, I was kinda talking out of my ass. There are a lot of trail systems that far surpass Salida; Sedona, Bentonville, Moab, Fruita/GJ/Loma, everything up in BC.Quote:
Originally Posted by North
That said...
I'd prefer living in Salida to any of them. Salida's climate and overall lifestyle are unreal. Plus being so centrally located to so much more.
Also a town that "gets it". They probably average one to two new professionally built trails per year.
Ha! I love CB riding and Hartman Rocks, and I'm not gonna be picky and complain about it - but I was told my a local on my trip last year the best riding around was Monarch pass, which was confusing until I rode Greens.Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
Salida I've never heard of as a MTB destination but I'm paying attention now. Do they claim Monarch pass as local trails??
All good points. In fact, I misspoke, CB and Gunny sucks, nobody should come here :) Honestly I like Durango better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roxtar
Personally I find "systems" kind of meh, whether we're talking S Mountain, Hartmans, Lunch Loops, or anywhere else. I like to just go up for a long ass time and them go down for a long ass time. But it's a fair criticism. Things in CB do link up, just not in standard ways. The trails are a hell of a lot older than motos 20 years ago, most of them were built by the CCC 100 years ago.
Quite a bit of new trails in the past 10 years- much of Signal Peak (which I prefer in some ways to Hartmans), stuff at the ski area, Middle Cement, Fenceline, Baxter to name a few
Edit to add: The marketing department cast a wide net when claiming there is 750+ miles of singletrack in CB and Gunny, but there truly is a shitton of trail here and it goes well beyond 401 and Doctor's.
I just seems like every ride has to be an epic just to do it. When you figure in the mileage and effort just to get there and back, and then the actual trail itself...Quote:
Originally Posted by goldenboy
Sometimes you just want a fun hour and a half ride.
My epic ride IS goldenboy's hour and a half ride!
Arguing about the best trails is pointless (especially on the internet) - everyone likes different things, and everyone likes living in different places. Your "best" might not even come up on someone else's radar.
Besides, Bentonville is clearly the best, just go there.
^ yup. Comparing something like S Mountain to a CB epic isn't really apples to apples anyways. Personally, I like it all, just depends on the mood I'm in.
I can think of a few 1-2 hour rides in CB, you just have to get creative. You can also do things like a single ride at the ski area (I think they still do this?) or utilize the free town bus to get some extra vert.
Man, the biggest difference between the places being discussed for me is just the temps. No way am I heading to Salida to ride in August. CB is one of the few places that I'll travel to ride in mid summer. Otherwise I'm riding out on our local trails in Summit. CB does have the scenery advantage too. Salida has better beer. I like Salida for early season when I'm out of shape too. But if you are lucky enough to be riding in any of these spots, you are doing it right.
holy shit
salida has been played out for ten years now every d bag from scummit and every poser from eagle and throw in a couple front range expat punters and you have the stew of gen x losers and washed out boomers that salida has become
fuck that place
oh but did I say the number of hotties is almost on par with boulder? the women down there are the shit I walk around with my tounge hanging out and my wee wee half masted I end up crying myself to sleep at the thought of all those babes that live in salida
and the riding in cb sucks nothing like driving a car to the trailhead thats shitty mountain biking I got trails right out my door man
Fred always has an interesting perspective
The thing I do like about CB is that a lot of the wilderness between Aspen and CB is on the Aspen side.. and you can actually ride some alpine over there.. and it's closer than Durango. But yeah, I get a good chuckle out of tourists in most other places we go chatting about how good the riding is and how under the radar it seems because it doesn't feel like Apex or Chimney Gulch on it's busiest day of the week.
That's one (very very kind) way of putting it.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackstraw
We camped up between Salida and BV this weekend and rode a bit of the CT. I really love the riding in that part of C. CO.
do hippies actually listen to hippie radio?
I feel seen. Fred really gets me, man.Quote:
Originally Posted by fastfred
lol
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Originally Posted by Roxtar
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Originally Posted by NuMexJoe
Well, happy to say we went there for our usual this past Monday and got great service and some awesome slices. Hopefully, they're back on track.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roxtar
I've been working on the Salida side recently - so this is now my restaurant compendium thread
Tony's (Poncha) - Cheap, solid Mexican faire. Not open until 10 or 11, but I bet the breakfast burritos rule.
FlaminGo Food Truck (Poncha) - Breakfast burrito was good but not $13 good.
Benson's - No secret, but one of the few late night food options in Salida proper. Good prices good vibe.
Fritz - Good vibe and every meal I've had there has been great.
Sherpa Cafe - This one's a small chain. Plan B after blowing it on Ramen place's hours. Saag was only aight and I'm not a harsh critic.
Ramen place is next on the list.
After reading the last page of this thread, basically Roxtar, ya sound like a puss. haha
If any of y'all wander through Salida and wanna go for a ride, a ski, or get a beer... feel free to shoot me a PM. I'm right in town and do all of those things on the regular.
Moonlight's beer still sucks a million dicks, and their margs give me and everyone else I know a splitting headache. I do like their pizza well enough when I want their style of pie, but my go to move is the meatball sammich and a tequila ginger / Mexican mule, the house brewed ginger beer is better than any of their regular beer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roxtar
I tried the FlaminGo breakfast burrito once, and was pretty damn disappointed. Wouldn't even have been good at half the price. Give me a MO breakfast burrito any day over that tasteless turd.Quote:
Originally Posted by North
Well son, that depends on your perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by bamboocoreONLY
I'm 63 and been doing the mtb thing for over 30 years. I did XC riding/racing for years, then bounced up to 12/24 hr races (team and solo) culminating in Leadville at age 51 while living at sea level (Chicago).
I then moved to the steep and sharp of northern New Mexico where I raced a couple DHs before jumping into the exploding enduro scene. I quit (for the most part) racing a few years ago after my 3rd concussion in two years. For the last couple years, I've been riding with a grade 5 AC separation on my right shoulder (from a high speed OTB in the rocks) and a torn rotator cuff on my left. A couple months ago, I did the Salida Enduro, where I was bested in Masters by four guys, none of which was within a decade of my age.
I've been called an O.G. Baddass by those who know and ride with me. I like that.
The reason for this bit of autobiographical back-slapping is to explain something:
It isn't that I CAN'T do a 10 mile uphill dirt road shit-slog to get to 5 miles of fun. I've done many.
It's that I don't enjoy it. And fun is why I ride bikes. 10 miles of misery for 5 miles of fun is a poor pain:pleasure ratio IMO.
And that's why I'm not a fan of CB riding.