^^^or down a notch, since your dog pulls you.
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^^^or down a notch, since your dog pulls you.
that pict with the dog towing you is called skijoring
what I find with classic is you CAN just plod along up any slope with any style of classic ski but with skating if it gets really steep its hard to get going and maintain glide ,like you are wishing you had a lower gear or 2 but there just aren't any in skating
with skating find a lake that has a foot of settled pow with a crust that will support you and you can skate forever
With no groomed trails near me, I picked up some Nordic classic gear.I have been beating up State Parks. Steeps are shit your pants fun on 200cm skinny skis with no edges.
Did the Hog Loppet with my son and grand daughter. Great day/party. Skiing 25 deg. slopes of chopped powder on skinny skis has to be done to appreciate it. Only thing we did wrong was not telling mama about the chairlift ride until the night before the event. She was more than a little nervous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Steve
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Definitely more cute women out there on the skate courses. Just dont get why they dont add 7-8" of razor sharp metal edge = bomb down bigger hills and have something more solid to push off of for more speed...
I have been lusting after something like a Karhu Guide XCD with a three pin binder for longer/mellower tours. Metal edged classic style skis are fun.
I felt like a gaper my first time showing up at the skate place with baggy clothes, too.
Ghey?
Not.
Did you see them boys flying uphill in the Olympic biathlon? With GUNS?
Not Ghey, power-laden!
Seems like that right up until you have to keep up to a dog that won't quit, up and down and across. You need to pay attention too since you go like hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by plugboots
Not ghey.
Recall that some of the Norwegian nordic pro team have the highest VO2max's of any athlete group. Bjorn Daehlie (the king of xc) was pegged to a 96. I'm a heavy road cyclist and a long time x-skater. Grew up skating Mt Van Hovenberg Olympic complex in Lake Placid. Cycling is a walk in the park in comparison. Unreal total-body workout. 30-45mins and you can be toast, without the pavement-knee impact of running. I wish I had better access to track here in Denver...only up in f.range.
Isn't Jeremy Jones known for xc'ing quite a bit during down time?
Nordic skiing at areas can be a bit sterile, but I love it for the exercise. Big race this weekend N of Steamboat: A single 90-km loop, no repeated terrain, well groomed, beautiful terrain. Highlight of my winter.... I finished in last place 5 years ago, but have moved up since then.
In early May one can do crust cruising and skate in the mornings on the frozen surfaces of many nice areas. Recently there was a thread here about skating the 14ers but it was referring to some sort of strange equipment I had no familiarity with. My question: What's the highest anyone has ever ski-skated in the lower 48. There is a spot near the Climax mine where, in May, we skate continuously for a couple of miles to 12900 feet. Can one get higher?
i can't ski for crap on skinny skis and soft boots...some people can kill it....if you are droppin waterfalls and boofing off double cliff drops with em, id say... not ghey.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrw
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Went again yesterday ... now purchasing skis, boots, poles. Hook, line, sinker. Awesome.
I've been getting out at night on my classic gear. I have a course across the street from me. A friend just gave me some skate gear and hope to learn how soon. I wouldn't take it over pow, but for an after work workout it's great.
Just did the same, yesterday was first day out and today was second. Only two falls so far. Downhill is some scary shit, and I've learned when it gets wild, just fall sideways. Binders don't release and that can get ugly.Quote:
Originally Posted by huckbucket
It is a great workout and definitely lets you take in the scenery in a different way. I gotta keep practicing those downhills. As Trackhead said early in this thread, it will improve your alpine/AT skiing, nordic quickly shows the flaws in your balance!
Want to get back into this as well now that we have the baby. I have a couple pairs of old Fischer classic skis with the ancient Solomon bindings on them and I have a pair of SNS Profil boots I picked up super cheap. I just somehow need to get divigirl boots and then get appropriate bindings mounted on the two pairs of skis. Can you re-mount these types of skis easily?
Actually, can you mount a standard 3-pin on an XC ski?
Not sure of the 3 pin compatibility, but you can remount the skis slightly forward, back, or maybe on the line if using binders with a different hole pattern. I'm sure an Olympic racer would notice the difference in performance, but most of our jong asses would not.
Just got a set-up for the wife and I. Have a track at the nearby golf course which makes it accessible. Definitely need to work on my technique, but it isn't that hard per se. Definitely need to focus going downhill and have to figure out that whole skate technique.
if it weren't for xc skiing I'd probably weight 350 pounds and do nothing but play video games. Or offed myself by now.
Joining the XC skiing team is the best thing that ever happened to me as a person.
Scary downhills aside, I used to think XC wasn't very hard... until I went out with someone who was actually good. HOly shite its actually very technical if you want to be good.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkiBall
Evening workouts, night skiing with the MTB lights is super fun.
Alpine > Nordic > a fucking treadmill.
You're working out in the snow...Not ghay at all. Bonus, your alpine boards will seem super fat the next time you strap them on.
had a killer sesh at Grafton Ponds in VT the other day, skate skiing and alpine skiing have the same feeling, square hips and whatnot.
i think mastering the V2 was the hardest thing i've ever done on skis.
i love it!
XC = Therese Johaug, and she alone can make Cross Country not Ghey.
I just signed up for another Alley Loop in CB!
If you think the downhills are spicy on skate gear, try classic race gear. Aint no ankle cuff for support during those step turns.
I took up classic and skate last year. The exercise is great and definitely makes skiing locked heel much easier. My alpine technique improved dramatically with the addition of nordic skiing. I think it adds to being a more complete skier. Even started looking at spring skinning a bit differently... why use skins when I can skate? And skating the spring crust makes for most of the running terrain being covered with snow.
rugged touring ftw. waxless, metal edge, nnnbc. 4wd for the feet. go anywhere at all times. tele or parallel turns. learn balance. adventure skiing. can't wait for morning:)
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XC would seem to make you strong cuz at the local 24 hr challenge last spring the tele & at skiers with an xc background were very well represented and were definately the equal of AT only skiers
theonly skier to do 30,000ft by fair means was an ex cross country ski racer/coach
I've been banished to Nordic skis until March and I've been enjoying it far more then I thought I would.
Going ghey (nordic) is a good way to stay alive when the avy danger is high, or when the touring conditions just plain suck. That's what I like about it.
And, as others have said, spending a bunch of time on 44mm wide skis with fruit boots certainly improves your downhill skiing.
And these days, it seems ski touring folks wear more lycra than nordic folks. WTF? Who's ghey?
I'm looking to buy my first set of skate skis. I picked up a classic set up,for cheap, the other day to use on the golf course at lunch. Beats getting fat.
Nohow just did an impressive 48+ mile nordic crossing of Yellowstone on a classic set up.......there's lots of potential in Utah and surrounding areas for some pretty huge nordic days through the mountains.Quote:
Originally Posted by zion zig zag
I want to do Monte Cristo to Curtis Flat to Ant Flat loop (60 miles) in a day this winter, if I manage to get out enough to get the needed endurance.
There's also Soapstone to Strawberry to Soldier Summit (60 miles-14,000ft climbing).
Mirror Lake Hway (30miles 5,500ft climbing)
Monte Cristo to Bear Lake (60 approx miles)
Provo Canyon to Park City (billions of vert)
from yesterday at Grafton Ponds in VT.
fresh grind on my old weapons, went with the 'fir tree' pattern, new robot at the shop does a great job on skate skis.
top shack, long haul up, fast as hell down.
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If you are looking for a 'BC' skate skiing experience, find FS roads that snowmachiners use. If they don't have an actual groomer (many local sled clubs groom), the sleds themselves can make a fine surface for skating.
skate skiing on lakes in certain conditions where the snow has settled and hardened enough to hold a skate ski is pretty cool
Lake Windermere was groomed a couple days ago - not sure how long it is this year, ~11km maybe? At some point they also clear / groom a big ice skating loop. Pretty cool to have just down the street!
Crust skiing is super fun, but fickle to find perfect conditions.
Check out this guys site.
http://crust.outlookalaska.com/Skiin...0_IMG_4138.jpg
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Scofield to Joe's Reservoir has been on my mind...- 50 miles....Quote:
Originally Posted by Trackhead
It isn't so much that it is ghey, but the SnowRoadies have a way of bringing 'Fruit of the Loom' factor into it if'n you know what I mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trackhead
Yeah, crust cruising fukkin rocks! When I lived in Flag it was easy to find good zones due to the climate.... I ski a lot of the groomed snowmobile trails and dig! I never see the SnowRoadie snobs on the 'biler groomed trails. It is almost like groomed BC skiing...ok, that is ghey! There are 100's of miles of snowmobile trails and it is basically akin to long mtb rides with about 2-5x the workout! I look forward to it as much as regular skiing. There is no workout trip like it, or at least what I have tried.
Lots of potential.Quote:
Originally Posted by sfotex
Check out Grey's River Valley south of Jackson. Cabins along the way.
Forgot to mention Nebo Scenic Loop too.
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Originally Posted by Trackhead
Are any of the Wasatch crust cruises you mention good in the spring? I am passing through in March and what you describe sounds like neat-o funness, or at least a portion of one...that is hella vert on the SiSSyStix!!
Our CC up here is primarily a spring thing, so I am assuming it might be good then?
Note that I'm no talking about a groomed skate ski track rather a foot of untracked pow on a lake that has consolidated to maybe 8" enough to hold a skate skier, when its just right you can skate ski for many kms with no tracks or borders ... very cool !
http://crust.outlookalaska.com/Skiing2012/
more or less like this ^^ I supose but lakes are flat as piss on a plate