Cortisone weakens the tendons or ligaments.
You're not supposed to have more than three shots during your lifetime in the same area.
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Cortisone weakens the tendons or ligaments.
You're not supposed to have more than three shots during your lifetime in the same area.
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Are you a heel striker do you land on your heels?
I had it from running I got orthotics but I think the big thing was motion control shoes which turned me into a forefoot striker and I've had no problems since
I've never been a fan of running. soccer, football and life guarding forced me to, not fun for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
gonna look up OldLarry and get that shot.
Thanks guys !!!!
I’ve had PF bad once. It got worse and worse over the course of a year or so, to the point that I was finding it tough to walk at all for the first hour or so each morning. Someone recommended this video to me:
http://youtu.be/hauyuX-uCq8
The techniques they show in the video hurt, but I followed it to the letter, and I was symptom free within a month.
I had one recurrence a couple of years later, and followed the same technique before it got too bad, and it cleared up within a week.
I’ve passed the video on to a few people who suffered pretty badly from PF, and the techniques in the video either completely healed them, or they saw enough improvement that they were in mild discomfort rather than significant pain.
It’s entirely possible that given the sample size I know this has worked for, it’s been a fluke that everyone saw an improvement. Maybe it won’t work for everyone, but I think it’s definitely worth a try if nothing else has worked out for you.
just watched the video and gave it a trial run. good stuff .Quote:
Originally Posted by Mailman
Thanks.
Looks like you've been on TGR since 2010 and don't post much, so thanks for reaching out.
Found this pic from a year ago, the boot helped a lot.
My foot doc and my ortho say no more than 5 or 6 shots in a lifetime in the same area. I have zero regrets re dry needle treatment/cortisone shot from Dr. Hale, which 100% cured my PF after trying lots of other stuff (e.g., stretching, night splint, Strassburg sock, golf ball massage). It's been 4-1/2 years since Dr. Hale and not a hint of recurrence.Quote:
Originally Posted by rod9301
I remember my retired podiatrist buddy saying that nailing that shot was like being a marksman. evidently, he is or was good at it. I'm gonna try going down that path. rolling this frozen water bottle under my foot kinda works but doesn't fix the problem. thanks for the follow up, steve.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldSteve
Oh yeah, he's good and has a good reputation among the running community. Doc says dry needling before the shot greatly enhances the success rate of the steroid injection.Quote:
Originally Posted by willywhit
made the call, wheels in motion, calling my primary in the morning for a referral. Fuck this, take the thumb tack outta my heel.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldSteve
So what are you crying about? A little plantar fasciitis? Just tough it out. It's not like it's something painful like broken ribs and back spasms.
broken ribs ARE back spasms ? How does that work?
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what are you talking about?
Editting.
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Posted in the other thread, but this thread looks like it has more/better info.
Just got this shit 2 weeks ago. Hurts like hell !
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Hey Harry, PF sucks! Sorry you are dealing with it.
Lots of good advice already on here. I didn’t read through it all again, so sorry if this was already covered. One thing I was told, and they seemed to help me, is that one should think about how much things in our bodies are connected. It really helped me to try to looser up my calf and Achilles, as the kinetic chain runs up the leg.
I wish you luck and hope that you are able to solve it sooner than later. It can really persist and I thought I had it licked a few times before it truly went away.
Time to get off your feet as much as you can for awhile!
When I had this a friend/holistic healer told me to get a golfball under my foot and start crunching all the painful spots. It hurts but it works. From the heel forward.
I also invested in a special ankle wrap that puts pressure in the right spot. Almost immediate relief. Feetures brand PF compression sleeve.
My PF was a syndome of another issue, mainly that my Sacroilliac joint locks up. Tried to resolve my PF with dry needling, stretching, boots to sleep in, tennis ball rollin, etc. Then I go to a PT, who says most of the time PF flares up because something else is amidst in your alignment. She found that my sacrolilliac joint was immobile, remobilized it and my PF went away almost instantly. Now if I get a PF flare up, I know my sacrolilliac joint is locked up and once I get it to release I'm all good, but mainly I just do the stretches and exercises I was told to do and my SI joint doesn't lock up.
Laid low all day, using lots of ice. Been using golf ball. Used the split last night for the first time. So far today is good. Stayed off my feet. Tomorrow I have to work....
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I have this thing now:
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Any links to these stretches and exercises ?Quote:
Originally Posted by brutah
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I just looked at my previous post in this thread. Can;t figure out what I was thinking-must have been drunk or really hurting. Sorry about that. Anyway, I had PF in one foot many years ago. Podiatrist had me get a custom orthotic made of a very hard material with a lot of arch support. Cured it in a few weeks and then I started wearing Spenco neoprene arch supports in all my shoes for prevention. It's never come back, although in recent years I've stopped wearing the arch supports. The orthotic was all I did, and aspirin. No ice, exercises, splints etc. I did stop running until I got better. Listening to other people's stories I think that a) I was lucky, and b) I got myself seen and treated as soon as the problem started--I think I only had it a week or so before I saw the podiatrist. It helped to be a doc in a clinic where I could just drop in and see a specialist any time I felt like it. Making appointments since retirement sucks.
So I am about a month in, still have a minor amount of pain but every day is improving.
Ice every morning & night, night splint, custom orthotics, golf ball, stretching, etc.
Does not help that my job is all standing for a 10 hour shift...
But I am way better than I was a month ago.
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You're doing all the right things it will break down eventually
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Got that for the first time last spring. Surprisingly debilitating little ailment
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Sorry but anyone has any recommendations for insoles for PF?
B U M P
this shit fucking sucks, hobbling out from a hike yesterday was one of the most demoralizing moments of my life. at least I know what it is now?
It's frustrating. I got over it with a combination of time, a lax ball/golf ball and other tools for MFR, and trying/learning to sleep with my heels cocked vs pointed toes. And yoga over the long term probably as well.
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Been through a round of it, might try a Chinese foot spa. There are a bunch of them around Seattle, seemed to help alleviate my symptoms a few years ago.
Got it going on for several months. In trying to stay off my heels I’ve now developed some nice Morton’s neuroma and the combo of the two is excruciating. Started with an over the counter orthopedic and now waiting for the custom ones to come in. More PT is the game plan along with an injection in each foot next week.
No golf this season has really put me down in the dumps. And currently just walking throughout the day has been a chore.
Yes I’ll echo this shit really fkn sucks.
Don't do the steroid injections, long term damage to tendons and ligaments
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I do a stretch where i throw the bad foot over my knee and bend my toes back every morning before getting out of bed. It helps take the pain of that first step away - especially because i put my feet into supportive shoes first thing as well. If you take care of it right away supposedly it doesn't take forever to heal. i just hope it goes away by ski season, but i still can't be outside all day without it flaring up so maybe next year.Quote:
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Rolling the foot on a frozen water bottle helps. Slow stretches. Don’t pull so hard you feel it in the Achilles tendon or you can cause danger there. Cortisone injections are fine Sometimes they last a while sometimes they don’t. The harder the orthotic the better and just try to get one that fits your foot well. There are lots of otc options that are quite good. If you have cash/ins that will actually cover them (surprisingly a huge pita) , a buddy of mine just got a sweet carbon pair. I’ve been rocking the same plastic ones for 20 yrs.
I just helped a podiatrist buddy run his office for a bit and it was shocking how common PF is. Big increase during covid as everyone was walking around the house barefoot w no support. Don’t do that. Google various stretches. They help a ton
I think that's what got me. Moved to a new place with nice carpet so started walking barefoot around the house all the time. Out of what appeared to be nowhere I developed PF.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcski
Don't heel strike, instead be on the balls of your feet
Night splints work quite well. I usually recommend trying that before cortisone.
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Splints weren’t even mentioned. Pitch went straight to shots and orthotics.
Honestly did like the guy much. No bedside manner at all. Talked monotone. Acted like he didn’t want to be there. I had lots of questions and he basically cut me off after a few and promptly left the room. I thought he was coming back but the PA came in and said he was done.
I think Plantar Fascitis and Morton's Neuroma can both be fixed mechanically for those willing to take the necessary steps (pun), especially in the early stages. However, a lot of people seem to prefer surgery and injections etc. There's a neuroma thread with a lot of good advice.
Morton's can and should be fixed with wide shoes.
I did.
Pf though, not sure. I tried many things and finally i had a prp injection which fixed it.
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