x2 for jack. throw it, rocks, and a splash of cherry juice in there and you can give one to your chick too
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x2 for jack. throw it, rocks, and a splash of cherry juice in there and you can give one to your chick too
absolutely! I should have mentioned this.Quote:
Originally Posted by David Witherspoon
Anyone who complains about the price of single malt scotch should probably not be buying single malt scotch. How, do you propose to "split" with a friend. For the love of god, don't say pour into some other liquid storage container....Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Conway
Do you mean whiskey and whisky?Quote:
Originally Posted by Moose Pit
Try some blends to start, then work your way towards where your pallet directs you (both geographically and tastewise). Here's a great one to begin with:
http://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/Sit...POB.15YOV1.jpg
Mmmmm whiskey...
My favorites are Makers Mark and Crown Royal.
Best served over rocks with a splash of water or seltzer water. Pretty delicious with Ginger or Coke too. Makers Mark manhattan is my favorite drink to order at a bar..
edit: Knob Creek is pretty tasty too..
Riiiiiggght, so what do the fellas at the working class "rougher the better" pub have ta dae wif 't' hunna quid a litre "scotch?" nae much ladde, nae much [/horrible scottish accent]:pQuote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
Summit-
The best answer is to save yer ducats a bit and the next time you're down in the city head to one of the big stores (tipsy's, applejack, davidsons, argonaut, liquor mart etc…) and buy the youngest (eg: least expensive) single malt scotches from a couple different geographic areas and/or a couple of minis along the same lines, probably can do 2 bottles + 4 minis for <$75. That'll give you an idea of what the tastes are and where the geographical differences equate to taste differences.
Tasting, the preening nancyboys ("PNBs") will be around shortly to roundly shout me down but: pour 2 fingers into a rocks glass, toss in a cube or two and take a sip immediately (undiluted and uncooled) then just drink away as the ice melts, it'll give you the full range of tastes appropriate to the scotch to see how you like to drink it. Standard whiskey tasting/drinking protocol in otherwords.
Sadly, the PNBs have ruined scotch values and now almost none of it hits a really acceptable spot on the quality to price ratio. Some of the single bbl American whiskeys are starting to go this way as well but in the end the PNBs have not yet ruined the value proposition* and there's some great booze for not too much $ in that market. :)
*I'm hopeful that the more dramatic stylings of 'Murikan whiskeys will never be accessible to their delicate and wilting palates.
[It should be obvious that I'm mostly just heckling here about the PNBs]
Uh, pour it into their glass? You buy 2 bottles, they buy 2 bottles, you trade glasses. Half the back bar rare shit is watered down or another brand anyways. The best thing about Single Malt - spraying to people you don't know about how much you spent!Quote:
Originally Posted by advres
/thrunt
lemonboy has it down
I haven't heard one person here who says they like single malt mention how much money their collection cost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Conway
I guess you drink four bottles of scotch in a sitting? A person who has many different bottles can have them for years. Are you going to go over your friends house when you want a sip of one of "your" half bottles. :rolleyes2:rolleyes2Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Conway
Generalizing about all establishments makes you a moron. Actually, so does all of your comments. Why do you use this alias so much when you are so close to 10G and all???Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Conway
*shudders* i think i'm gonna need about 15 years to actually begin to like whiskey straight up. for now I'll stick with the "highschooler" drinks
edit: and if you're going to mix it with coke or something like that what the hell is wrong with going cheap with something like jack. no reason to waste your money
^^ um, actually Jack isnt even that cheap. I'd recommend Seagrams 7 for your first foray into the wonderful world of whiskey, especially if you want cheap (but decent) stuff to mix with coke.
LB, quit yer bitchin' and out with some non-PNB bourbon values. Otherwise I'm gonna continue to enjoy my liquid smoke and overrated Maker's.
sicQuote:
Originally Posted by advres
Hey moran, they are ALL aliases...unless your legal name is 'advres.' Not bad for a robot porn star, I guess.
Woodford is the beginning and the end, great stuff for a great price. Beyond that, I'd not see myself clear to provide much guidance on the subject in the way of particular bottles but I would point you toward the frog's suggestion to not ignore rye. Don't fergit to buy a bottle of bitters for when you fuck up.Quote:
Originally Posted by bagtagley
Context, you thick-skulled sack of shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by RootSkier
edg
I never said I was grammar star. I'm a mock star!
and yes, they are all in fact aliai. BUT, when you go by a name for 4 years as one thing and start a new one to cunt something up for a few months, I call it a weak troll alias. Are you mad at me or something for pointing out he is a long time member being a douche or something?
And really, why the fuck do you care what I say?
I grew up on Canadian Club and 7up or ginger ale. I like a good Manhattan which is a good whiskey drink, and I never really tried bourbon. I am a regular Chivas drinker and like Irish whiskeys a lot. Ya, I am a whiskey hound.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Conway
However, regarding the pretentious connoisseur comment, single malt scotch is an acquired taste. After a few trips to Scotland and many distillery tours I have found a few single malts I really like to drink.
This is a favorite at a good price:http://www.drinkupny.com/product_p/s0346.htm
The difference between this and a bottle of whiskey is the difference between some good hash and some ok weed, know what I mean:fmicon:
Go to a good liquor store (ie, one with a good selection a big inventory turnover) and see what's on sale. Distributors will give these stores huge discounts which they invariably turn around to the customer. I just bought a 1.75l bottle (read: handle) of Bulleit for $35, down from $57! The same size Makers was not on sale and cost $49. Another good Bourbon in this price range (or just below) is Buffalo Trace. Knob Creek goes on sale quite often as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by bagtagley
If that's not what you meant, and are looking for something less expensive, try these:
Old Grandad "Bonded"
Wild Turkey "101" - the "Kickin' Chicken"
The only thing Jim Beam is good for is mixing w/Ginger Ale (or Coke, if you swing that way.) It's too sweet for anything else IMHO.
For a good Rye Whiskey try Old Overholt. Dickel is a Tenn. Whiskey like JD.
this thread seems to be following the standard drunkenness model: cheery disposition, followed by exaggerated storytelling, followed by a drunken dispute.
i'm waiting for the one night stand and the bad hangover phases any second now :)
edit: fixed typo.
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Originally Posted by advres
I've always been a douchebag you dumb sack of shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by advres
If we're actually talking Whiskey, something like Black Bush would be a nice. Fruity, smooth and not too expensive (£16/bottle at Asda).
edg
Help me like whiskey
Um, OK, this ought to help..........
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m...otwhiskey1.jpg
OMG...Highland Park is the shit!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by MakersTeleMark
We had a few of the 22 or 25 year in the bar of the Balmoral in Edinburgh. That was an awesome evening getting a great buzz on with my pops.
Expensive, but so good, nothing comes close.
reread what you quoted Hugh... It's ok, I'll wait.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Conway
Your quoting of mine proves nothing. My statements have never been "I spend X number of dollars on my booze". I said if you can't afford something, you shouldn't be drinking it. I can't afford an AMG, therefor I am not going to bother test driving one.
QED
You are right, you are a douchebag and I am a dumb sack of shit. But you never answered why you aren't using your normal screen name?
complaining about the price != can't afford.Quote:
Originally Posted by advres
I could ski at Jackson, or I could ski somewhere else and have more fun for less money. So I choose to ski somewhere else. For some people it's really important to say they ski at Jackson.
there you go generalizing again. No need to continue to cunt up this thread. I drink what I want because I like it. I only drink scotch at home. When i go out it's PBR and shots and I do have more fun for less.
advres = out of this thread
I agree that it is fucking madness to pay hunna quid on a bottle. So yeah if you pay that kind of money for a bottle of whisky you probably are a Preening Nancy Boy. I've rarely paid 1/3rd of that, I don't think anyone I have ever shared a dram with has either.... No need to.Quote:
Originally Posted by lemon boy
Don't dis the whisky, this lot, just back from Iraq will have been dry for nearly a year and wont like it! ;)
I would suggest you start your experience with a nice bottle of Jameson. Start slow, if you must put one cude in a glass, pour some over said one ice cube, then head out to your deck. Small sips, enjoy the evening, take deep smells of the Jameson. Once you've polished off the Jameson, and no not in one sitting, perhaps move your way to the single malt section of your local bottle shop. I might suggest your basic Glenlevit, cheaper and you're still growing your appreciation. Repeat the above directions. Once you get into a more expensive whiskey/scotch I'd caution against the ice cube but that's up to you.
If this doesn't fit into your plan, then the above advice of hitting a very good bar with a nice selection (think high end hotel in a larger city)would be the way to go. A good bar tender will steer you in some interesting directions. In addition I might hit a higher end Irish Pub for the Irish Whiskey, the hotel bar for the scotch and bourbon. If you get to MN, we have a local bottle shop that has a private lable scotch with differnt batches coming from the different areas of Scotland. You can try the various types and see which you like best without the higher price. Once you determine your preference on HOW and where it's made, then upgrade to a better bottle. That bottle shop is Haskel's in the MInneapolis/St. Paul area. These private lable single malts are decently priced, not much more than a bottle of Jameson, and give you the opportunity to try a variety of different scotchs without taking out a home equity loan.
Good Luck and enjoy the journey!
JAy
meh, scotch brought us tweed, PNBs with snifters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
american whiskey brought us NASCAR
America, Fuck YEAH!
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Fuck yeah, I'll drink to Steve Earle & Copper Head Road.
If you are over here and we'll have a dram sometime
My glass is empty. Bye
If you like Jamo, you owe it to yourself to try the 12 year old. It is wonderful.
http://www.sunband-designs.com/AVB/D...%20Whiskey.jpg
Also, the offerings from Jon, Mark & Robbo's Easy Drinking Whisky Co. are very affordable and very good.
nothing wrong with mixing with the cheap stuff, in fact the PNBs (to use LB's term) will tell you just that, that using the good stuff as a mixer is a waste of money.Quote:
Originally Posted by fish
I disagree with it being a waste. Last year, I was on a trip, one of the guys bought some good single malt (don't recall which). I bought some ginger ale and mixed it while they all heckled me. Well, they all had a taste, and when they went back for refills they didn't drink it straight. Single malt and ginger is great, especially for us wimps who don't like our whiskey straight.
the man makes a good point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Conway
Seriously, recommending Scotch and water to a person that doesn't even have a taste for whiskey is kinda jumping ahead.
I like bourbon and am not a fan of blended whiskey, so I propose the following game plan. Go get a bottle of Southern Comfort and a bottle of coke. Drink 'til you puke and never want to touch that awful, wretched shit again. Move up from there. Beam would be a common next step. Next, Jack Daniels. It's not great, but it puts you closer to decent whiskey territory as far as flavor profile (IMO). Once you start cringing when the bartender puts more than a splash of coke in your Jack and Coke, then you probably like whiskey and will appreciate the more expensive stuff.
Me? I discovered good tequila at about the point I was starting to appreciate good whiskey, but I do have a hankerin' to start sippin' some good ole bourbon again. I don't think I'll ever really love scotch the way some others do. I do think I could become a PNB for Cognac and Armagnac, though.
I disagree wholeheartedly with your game plan (starting out with SoCo is a sure recipe for never touching whiskey).
As someone who doesn't drink a lot of liquor, the only kind I can enjoy and appreciate is the good kind. The best liquor I have ever had was a single malt, and I am not generally a scotch fan.
I'm not saying that's a play-by-play of my High School drinking years, but I will say that it worked for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
I'd never, outside the realm of sarcasm, suggest anyone do anything w/ SoCo besides avoid it.
If you wanna go cheap go with the Beav:yourock:
http://www.bartonbrands.com/export/i...lackVelvet.jpg
Its never done me wrong
I need help not liking it so much!
Any of you guys with single malt collections ever pull out all of your bottles and try ad hoc blends?
A splash of this, 2 splashes of that, a drop of another?
Its a great way to taste some intersting flavors and its never the same twice ( unless you are uber good at measuring!)
Good Call.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parvo
The wank?Quote:
Originally Posted by skibuminwyo
or the drink?
Or were you refering to the duo?
Well, the drink, as far as cheap(er) whiskeys go.