I dig that Swollen after a HYPE ski flick in a room full of drunk ass maggots YO !
eC3NYs6_2o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eC3NYs6_2o
preppy rap fan wanna be thugs ???
dat's a funnyass demographic right dear
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I dig that Swollen after a HYPE ski flick in a room full of drunk ass maggots YO !
eC3NYs6_2o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eC3NYs6_2o
preppy rap fan wanna be thugs ???
dat's a funnyass demographic right dear
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Originally Posted by SunCuntry
That's the most retarded thing I've heard in quite some time.
So you're labeling Atmosphere as sell outs just because their fanbase are Abercrombie douchebags?
By that reasoning then N.W.A. were sell-outs since a large percentage of the people who bought their albums were white kids from the 'burbs.
By that reasoning Jay-Z would be sell out since he's always on the Billboard charts and again a large percentage of his audience is Gap wearing yuppie kids.
I'mma be hanging out with Slug in Austin next week so I'll make sure to check the label on his clothing (gonna bet it ain't A&F, AE or Gap).
The bottomline is that as an artist you can't choose your fans. You can only put out the best music (or art or writing or acting) possible, tailored to your own style and hope for the best.
Rockin' the boulevard and reaching the bourgeosie, baby!
dookey,
I've never heard of Atmosphere but thanks for the link. I'm gonna go listen with an open mind.
check out
http://www.wers.org/rockers/
if ya get a chance. Emerson College in Boston.
actually it's the hip/hop show that starts at 10pm EST every night and you can stream it. They play some great rap stuff and I'm really not a big fan but good tunes is good tunes regardless of genre.
http://www.wers.org/889atnight
hold UP !Quote:
Originally Posted by Chugachjed
RZA - Afro Samurai
http://www.wers.org/889atnight/reviews/?id=97
you call yourself a hip-hop fan and you always forget about gangstarr?Quote:
Originally Posted by BlurredElevens
primo is the master, best producer of all time. you are awarded no points.
edit:
good job on the PRT call dookie.
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Originally Posted by dookey67
Well fuckin said.
STFU,kid
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Originally Posted by Kevin Garnett
PRT are one of the most underrated crews ever.
Wise Intelligent had the sickest flow, mixing a mutant dancehall patois with New Jersey grime. Their first album is still a bona fide forgotten classic. Too bad it's virtually impossible to score these days.
Fuckin sick tracks that i'm listen to right now.
Guru(feat Common)-State of Clarity,puts a lil impin in your pimpin
Del-Battle of the shadow,just a badass song. Listen to it. Now.
Brother Ali-Star Quality,Truth Is,Take me home. Just wow.
Blue Scholars-Blue School. Some new schoolers,i think.
DJ Honda-travellin man. THis may be a repeat but what a good song.
If you don't have those on your playlists then you need to update like now.
There is some fucked up shit in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathematics
First, Slug is as emo as sage, and actually more so, ESPECIALLY some of his last stuff. Holy shit that crap sucks. So calling out sage but not slug is ridiculous.
Second, Tuffy, are you saying that Slug is number #2 then?!?!
Third, Funkendrenchman, Ant makes sick beats, period. You can argue Slug's ability as much as you want, but if you can't feel Ant you should give up on music. Or maybe just stick to Linkin Park.
Fourth, the title of this thread is retarded coming from a paid music 'critic'. Sure, I like Slug (except for that Sad Clown crap), but c'mon.
Fifth, I do see where SunCountry is coming from. The A+E crowd in Atmosphere concerts may have been around (only a bit) before the 'emo clown' schtick, but now they're here to stay. He didn't pick them, but he fucking seemed to tailor to them with that clown crap.
(And I'll prolly buy his next one just in case I'm missing out, so fuck me anyways.)
One counterpoint to the "you can't choose your fans..." line of logic: many old school punk acts were straight up hostile towards people coming to their shows who they didn't deem worthy or who they just didn't want as fans. snobbery is lame in my book, but so is letting cash influence your art - both are realities if you want a full time job in the music biz. My point is that slug probably uses more caution in his lyrics than you might think and to keep from scaring off too many of the preppy kids - it's that fine line any "edgy" product walks of staying "dangerous" without going past the limits of those they court.
Why have I not heard mention of Brother Ali and Lyrics Born in this discussion?
Come on, baby. Cash rules the rap game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Platinum Pete
"Money - cash - money - cash - hoes"
"Damn, people tryin to stick me for my paper"
"It's all about the Benjamins, baby"
Get Rich or Die Trying...
I didn't have to think for any of those.
i mean, it rules everything around me.Quote:
Originally Posted by bklyn
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Originally Posted by dallread
Aesop Rock is the greatest. Mr Lif is right up there too. I'd have to put Surreal up there as well. Surreal and The Sound Providers might be the best hip hop album of all time!!!!
not quite sure what to make of the "paid music critic" barb.Quote:
Originally Posted by muted
sure, i may make my living writing about entertainment (movies and music), but what does that have to do with anything.
i actually spend quite a bit of money buying music that i never critique, since i fell into this gig by being a music fanatic (actually fell into it as a result of being a DJ on my college station, which came about because I was obsessed with music).
additionally, the core nature of my "job" is to actually turn people on to cool music that they might not otherwise have stumbled onto themselves.
the title of thread was due to the fact that i've been listening to a lot of Atmosphere lately and feel that he's a solid MC and is staying true to the roots of rap music and not following any trends. his flow has improved over the years, his rhymescheme is filled with energy, verve, and creativity, making you really listen to his lyrics, and his beats have always been solid.
bottomline, Atmosphere is a breath of fresh air in a genre that has grown more and more pop oriented and continues to get gummed up in the bling-bling/gangsta-gangsta fall-out.
Hand down, not contest, Slam Dunk Winner.Quote:
Originally Posted by dookey67
I take 7 mc’s put em in a line
And add 7 more brothas who think they can rhyme
Well, it’ll take 7 more before I go for mine
And that’s 21 mc’s ate up at the same time
20 years old and it still kills.
I ain't no joke
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu4RM1Iq-wg
My melody
I know you got soul
fish is my favorite dish
+2
Classical too intelligent to be radical
Masterful, never irrelevant: mathematical
Here's some soothing souvenirs for all the years
They fought, and sought, the thoughts and ideas
It's cool when you freak to the beat
But don't sweat the technique
"Cool, 'cause I don't get upset. Kick a hole in the speaker, pull the plug, then I jet..."
"Back to the lab, without a mike to grab, so then I add all the rhymes I had."Quote:
Originally Posted by MarsB
slug isnt bad but nowhere near greatest of all time his stuff is good its just not as strong as other guys. i second what chugachjed posted gza is the lyrical genius and has beats that stomp anyone else, lil wayne is fuckin sweet, but if you were addicted to a mixture hawaiin punch and promethazine/codeine youd spit crazy ethereal shit too. check out binary stars, and murs all dope.
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Originally Posted by SunCuntry
So I hung out with Slug today in Austin. He was here doing a listening party for his upcoming new album. He came over while I was taking notes on the album, sat down, and we chopped it up for a good 20 minutes or so talking about random sh!t. After the party I cornered him for an "official" interview and I asked him about the A&F fanboys and what he thought. He had some interesting takes on it.
But I digress...I checked his labels and he wasn't sporting any A&F gear.
Oh yeah, he agreed with me that as an artist you can't choose your fans. You can only hope to influence them in positive ways.
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Originally Posted by dookey67
seriously if you got to hang with sean and this is all you have on your conversation, that is pretty weak, spill some more details. So what did you think of the new album? Looks like tix are on presale, 2 shows at the ogden theater, i am not going to miss his this time around. ++vibes to you for being in austin
IMO dead on with
My bad on my earlier post, I posted it while in a coma during a nightshift, of course his first album was "overcast"Quote:
bottomline, Atmosphere is a breath of fresh air in a genre that has grown more and more pop oriented and continues to get gummed up in the bling-bling/gangsta-gangsta fall-out.
funken, ant is really sick as said earlier, i don't think you should quit it, but maybe listen to it again.
just got back from SXSW in Austin late last night and am headed out to Taos today to get the last day of skiing only.
should have the full Atmosphere interview posted up on IGN early next week (I get back from Taos Thursday, then it's Good Friday and 3 days in Tahoe!).
i just wanted to address the A&F comment first, is all.
the new album is crazy. full band, going for that "cold Minneapolis sound" (Slug's words) in the vein of Prince, Husker Du, early 'Mats. He said he wanted to channel Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis as much as possible, but still have that Du/Mats energy. Also there's a kid's book that goes along with the album. Interesting stuff.
"I'm 76 inches of all the purest sound.....y'all could dig me 6 feet deep my eyes will still be over ground"
Honestly, I've seen Atmosphere a bunch... the show funken is reffering too was OK, not great, definitely not the best I've seen of them.
If we're talking "underground" I have to put Cage, The Grouch, Scarub, eyedea, Aesop, etc. in there...
Gangstarr, Nas, Mobb Deep come to mind when the more mainstream stuff comes into play...
I also listen to a lot of
Abstract Rude, De La Soul, Del tha Funky Homosapien, J5, Lost Boyz, etc....
KRS-1
Biggie
Snoop
Eric B
Rakim
Chuck D
Lateef the Truth Speaker
Nas
LL
Chali 2Na's deep baritone voice is unmistakable. In terms of crossover, Galactic, Ozo, collaborations with many other artists...pretty cool in my book. He's also an incredibly talented painter.Quote:
Originally Posted by grskier
3 pages and no mention of Devin the Dude (but only with Odd Squad)...20 years of buying rap albums and Fadanuf fa Erybody still gets more play in my truck than anything else I've got. I've still got my original 15 year old copy....on its last leg, but extras have been made.
Also, RE: Atmosphere...I still dig the music, but I can see where SunCuntry is coming from. If you grew up listening to him in MSP, its easy to be a little tainted as the crowds have changed. In the 90's an Atmosphere show was underground and full of real fans - he played in my basement in college after one of his many shows at Stout(thats a WI college). Now (at least in Cities) the crowds are filled with enough 18 year old popped collar douchebags to keep me home.
Reminds of me of how J5 crowds rolled over after Whats Golden dropped
^
like i said a lot earlier: you can't blame an artist for their fans.
i'll be posting an interview i had with Slug (Sean) once I get back from my 14 day skiing bender in Colo and in said interview he will address the whole thing about mainstream Ambercrombie/Fitch fans. His take on it is pretty interesting.
until then...
late finding this thread. love Atmosphere. Love this new song, thanks for the link. is this new album the first new one since "you can't imagine how much fun we're havin."?
yup...some of the freshest flows and coolest production i have heard in over 20 years of listening to hiphop...Quote:
Originally Posted by tuffy109
i need a zantac ock, and thanks before i blank into anafalactic shock
vik vaughn think he call it lickupon?
Just getting into Atmosphere. Solid, but number 1? No. KRS - not even close. Doing it since '86, 20 something albums, still killing it, rapping about shit that actually matters (whether you agree with everything he says or not), and will take anybody in a freestyle battle. And I can't believe no one has mentioned Black Thought, Kool G Rap, Pharoahe Monch, Gift of Gab, Lupe Fiasco - the battle for spots 2-10 is tough, but no one is taking out KRS. "Rippin' the microphone until I'm muthafuckin' 60!'
http://megadownload.net/download/mu/...ie-culture.rar
seems you guys would dig this.
scooped up "when life gives you lemons" and its fucking solid. First time through with live music, different avenue for Slug, but its pretty amazing. Just expanding the collection.
I got a sneak peek of the album back in March (still waiting for my store copy to show up).
http://music.ign.com/articles/862/862612p1.html
So Atmosphere is coming to the SLC May 16th. Anybody wanna catch the show?
http://atmosphere.ducatking.com/choo...0958&eid=25722
atmosphere ROOLS.
slug sucks ass.
You think KRS-One is the greatest rapper ever? HA HA I would give Flo-Rida or some other shitty main stream rapper a shot at greatest ever before i said it was KRS-one with no contestQuote:
Originally Posted by BSS