hey, if these guys can do it....
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=CUxS9B0IjUQ
there are some gratuitous leather boot shot shots in there. his back flip is smoother then mine too....
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hey, if these guys can do it....
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=CUxS9B0IjUQ
there are some gratuitous leather boot shot shots in there. his back flip is smoother then mine too....
now let that be a lesson to all of us. It's not the skis it's the skier.
Could have been anywhere early 1990's Bridger, Jackson, Alta/Brid,... but we use two pole's in AmerikA
Get your Leather on... Try it you'll see "Humble pie" for sure
Thanks Mel:yourock:
I start every season on leather for the start and at least 50% of my BC in leather and love my free heel.
As for speed well I travel as fast as anyone without the fixed heel, but then alpine got boring and so very easy.
I forgot to mention that I'm not a hater. In fact I ski telemark but cannot abide by the snobbery some skiers feel they are entitled to simply because of their chosen method of getting down the hill (usually the ones spastically exhibiting their "skills" on the groomers under the chairlift).
Just a few of the attitudes that exhibit what I'm talking about include the not-so-clever bumper stickers:
Randonee, French for can't tele
or
If it was easy, they'd call it snowboarding
Come on, I'd like to see the geeks who actually believe this just try to thread a line through some tight trees on a snowboard.
OK, my haldol is beginning to kick in, so I'll cease my curmudgeonley rant now.
Sounds like you may need at Bigger, Steeper, more exotic Mnt if your skiing is getting boring. Let us know when you find it.:biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by teledance
Me = alpined my whole life until 5 years ago
Yearly trip to Alta - middle of High Pressure system = me bored
Borrowed some tele gear = had a blast, felt more natural/ fun to me
Sold my Alpine gear same week I got home and I have not looked back since. :biggrin:
Can't tele anymore but have embraced AT.
I don't care if you are on a board, apline, AT or tele. We are all sliding on snow and that is all I care about!
I do miss the tele though. Not going happen anymore though, so AT is a great way for me to stay in the BC and get turns in!
This thread is lame. Just shut the fuck up and ski -- if you can. :FIREdevil
Those stickers you mention were all created as a marketing tool, which were also meant as a good natured, humorous jibe (read satire) by a company and people who manufacture and market all of the above snow products. Anyone actually taking these seriously, thinking it's OK to judge others as being less cool, less skilled, less whatever, has a much larger issue to contend with IMPO... It's all sliding on snow, it's all fun, and it's what you make it.Quote:
Originally Posted by heyyyou
I've tele'd since the early 80's and remember leather and skinny boards that were stiff as hell. I tele'd back then because I was board. I grew up alpine skiing. Back then you were a real freak on the hill if your heal wasn't nailed down. I never quit tele skinning, but like others prefer skiing my alpine gear. My experience is that skiing tele, made my alpine skill set stronger, just the same way that skateboarding transition helped my skiing when I was growing up. Call it cross training whatever, it makes a difference. At the end of the day I still fix my heal to fix my problem... :redface:
Can't we all just get along? Being a Tele/Alpine/Snowboarder,no snowblades,I've come to the conclusion that we all love what we do,and should be happy other people are out doing what they love.That said, Teleskiing is great ,and I don't drive a subaru ,I drive an old beater toyo pickup that gets me to the backcountry that I love so much.My friends are snowboarders,skiers,snowbikers?but we're there for fun and enjoy each others company any day on the hill.
I have three kids that were born within three years of each other. The budget included gear & passes for the family but not lessons or ski teams. That left me with three beginning skiers between the ages of 4 and 7 on the slopes, by myself. I picked up some tele gear to try to give myself something to work on while I spent my days on the blues & greens.
Now, five years later, I cannot keep up with any of my kids while on the tele’s (license to suck :cool:). I still indulge in the free heal life while at my home mountain but switch to alpine when we go to other mountains. Tele’ing has really helped improve my alpine skiing and I get a great workout in one day. My home mountain is small & it usually takes until late January to get a lot of the good terrain open. I would be bored on alpines but am content tele’ing average terrain plus I usually get just partial days at home where I am on 3-5 day trips when I am visiting other mountains .
When I first started tele’ing I did find myself looking at good skiers and then thinking, oh they are just on alpines. It was kind of like looking a someone spin or bait fishing when you are fly fishing. That emotion/perspective really did not last long for me. Lately I am sometimes almost embarrassed to be tele’ing when I see how trendy it has become with the elitist dorks. :nonono2: I choose not to be in their club(no subi, dog waiting in car, overgrown beard, artyrex, need to wear an oversized pack when skiing inbounds or talk loudly with a sense of entitlement in lift lines).
In the end, I am really just happy to be able to be skiing as much as I do. I do not give a shit about what others are thinking or how they are getting down the mountain. Just hope they are having as much fun as me. ;)
...and do whatever you f-ing want with your heels!!!
Telemarking is skiing, not a "form" of skiing or an "alternative" to "normal" skiing. It is skiing. Does that make sense?
Here's my two cents...
I like telemark gear because I'm a skinny white boy and I could never really flex the alpine race boots I grew up skiing in. When I started teleing several years ago it just felt more natural. I can bend my ankles and knees more and find my balance better, even in Alpine style...it's all about the boots and the biomechanics for me. And with the Black Diamond touring binding (the 01), it's the best setup ever for touring, lighter and with a more natural pivot point than any AT binding out there, period.
And I'll be the first (and maybe only) telemarker in the thread to admit to skiing with my heels down whenever I want. I do it and I'm proud of it. I'm eagerly awaiting the aforementioned "elitist dorks" to weigh in on my "Telpining" because I already have a great response...
I'm a skier! A f-ing skier! That's it, that's all. Just a skier. Not a "Telemarker" or an "Alpiner". Does that make sense to all the beauraucrats (sp?) out there? Skiing is going down a mountain on snow. Telemark gear is not a knee-dropping mandate, just an option.
[end rant]
The word Gaper is overused.Quote:
Originally Posted by beaterd
This should have been the first and LAST reply to this lame ass butt hurt thread. Who the hell gives a shit what others think of what you do or don't do.Quote:
Originally Posted by telepariah
i didn't know that there was an official definition for "fruit booter". i've always heard it in reference to freeheelers. does the "real" definition have something to do with produce and rectums?Quote:
Originally Posted by bio-smear
It's my understanding that it refers to rollerbladers.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluespark
freeheeler 4 life...josh & cody's new movie rocks..and my friends and have not learned this skill yet..
hell yeah blizzy
What is this TELEMARK that you speek of..................
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaHeel
And que the emo music.......
It's a wrap.
At least the "fruitbooters" know better than to skin up the down.
http://wowasatch.com/pictures/Winter...ption-this.jpg
:the_finge
How can you deny the sweetness?
http://home.zcu.cz/~masekb/img/Priva...g/Telemark.jpg
Meadow skippers is what I call them.
what about teleboards? Are those people ok?
After reading this post I am able to deduce the following two things:Quote:
Originally Posted by yonskion
1. You prefer the company of men.
2. You are far too old for it to be considered experimentation.:fuckyou:
There's a lot spouting going on in this thread. Shouldn't you all be combing the interweb for end of the season close outs on wool and hemp.
1. I puke bigger than you can ski.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geekasaur
2. This is the last you'll hear :cool:
Not looking down here, but based on my experience, if you alpine 100+ days a year you will get sick of it, assuming you're not dropping a new Alaskan line everyday. With tele skiing I have not found this to be the case, I appreciate every turn more, and there is nothing comparable to a bottomless powder telemark turn. To put it simply, I know a lot of people that 'used to alpine' but 'no one who used to tele'. Its pretty nice to have in the skiing repertoire
Quote:
Originally Posted by yonskion
oh puh-leeze. the only reason you puke big is due to the fact that your stomach is filled with the man juice of every truck driver within 100 miles of bend.
found your pic too, don't be shy there, big boy
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/227/4...f3e6cd.jpg?v=0
I used to tele for a decade plus, but I got bored with it and quit. Felt confined and limited by it. I've pinned once in the last 7 years or so, and after that one day I said, what the fack was I thinking. Don't even remotely miss it one bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by telepow
^ The equipment has changed in recent years, were you on leathers? With decent gear and enough experience you can do anything on teles you can on an alpine setup. Therefore, isn't alpining just limiting your skiing and making your feet sore? I've never met your kind
I kill it on teles:
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2...7/_4281864.jpg
so steezy
Bought the Scarpa terminators first year they came out. Bellows made my feet bleed. My Langes are more comfy then any tele boot I've been in. Been there, done that as far as gear goes. Just got bored with teleing. Wanted to go bigger, faster and more confidently than pins would let me. Less room for error on pins = more limitations. Telemark: Norwegian for 'Wait for me'!Quote:
Originally Posted by telepow
i am from texas and i can alpine, tele, and snowboard. i'm not sure about the grade school kids in those states, but i can at least hang with third graders in tahoe on any board. i agree though, most texans are frucking ertarted anywhere near snow, especially while on vacation in colorado.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo Escobar
Its all about the thermofit liners and stiff ass boots and skis=no limitationsQuote:
Originally Posted by LIP
i.e. Dylan Crossman:
I have tons of friends that "used to tele" but stopped because the gear sucked and it's inefficient for every condition except for sidestepping.Quote:
Originally Posted by telepow
I quit once already but it didn't take. Maybe the 2nd time...:FIREdevil
too bad. everyone who used to tele was on sucky gear
i am mostly a troller on here to pass time at work. however, as someone who alpines and tele's - both equally as well (and that is all i will say in the way of "trash talking"), i have something to add...
THIS IS THE LAMEST THREAD I'VE EVER SEEN ON THIS WEB SITE AND I HOPE ITS TAKEN DOWN. I CAN'T BELIEVE I WASTED MY TIME READING WHAT ANYONE HAD TO SAY REGARDING THE ORIGINAL QUESTION AND THE USELESS RESPONSES IT PRODUCED.
why? Its the same as all the other alpine vs. tele threads. It has to be good if its pissing the trolls off :FIREdevil
I think he's won just about everything he's entered in tele world. He stapped 'em on with the big boys this last weekend. Tied for 40th place. Guess he would have won with stiff ass boots and skis.Quote:
Originally Posted by telepow
Brett Crabtree 10 CAN Whistler 30.87 41.87 40.25 112.99
2 Cliff Bennett 32 USA Snowbird 31.37 39.37 40.25 110.99
3 Dane Tudor 34 CAN Red Mountain 42.75 37.75 30.25 110.75
4 Drew Stoecklein 6 USA Alta 37.62 32.62 39.25 109.49
5 Kiffor Berg 101 USA Aspen/Snowmass 33.12 39.25 36.62 108.99
6 Josh Daiek 29 USA Kirkwood 36.12 37.50 30.75 104.37
7 Brayden Brassey 117 USA Park City 34.62 34.25 35.25 104.12
8 Julien Lopez 38 FRA La Plagne 33.37 41.00 26.75 101.12
9 Scott McBrayer 22 USA Alta 32.50 33.37 32.12 97.99
10 Frank Konsella 137 USA crested butte 31.62 36.25 25.00 92.87
11 Elijah Lee 27 USA Mt. Baker 31.25 33.25 64.50
12 Travis Wolfe 36 USA Telluride 38.37 25.25 63.62
13 Alex Blais 26 CAN Whistler 35.37 27.50 62.87
14 Bobby Block 121 USA Monarch 30.12 30.75 60.87
15 Brian Wespiser 139 USA Crested Butte 30.12 30.50 60.62
15 Adam Moszynski 104 USA Aspen/Snowmass 30.12 30.50 60.62
17 Ezra Stemple 135 USA Squaw Valley 31.12 25.25 56.37
18 Lars Chickering-Ayers 111 USA Mad River Glen 34.87 21.25 56.12
19 Rob Greener 106 USA Alta/Snowbird 32.00 23.25 55.25
20 Yukio Tatsuno 150 USA Aspen 30.75 24.00 54.75
21 Pierre-Yves Leblanc 35 CAN Whistler 29.75 23.25 53.00
22 Will Cardamone 113 USA Aspen 27.87 25.00 52.87
23 Trevor Main 109 USA Brundage Mtn 30.50 21.75 52.25
24 Kevin Omeara 103 USA Squaw Valley 35.50 16.50 52.00
25 Kent Hyden 98 USA Alta 34.12 16.75 50.87
26 Matt Potter 118 USA Vail 28.00 21.75 49.75
27 Andrew Sabatier 134 USA Sun Valley 29.50 18.50 48.00
28 Jesse Hall 90 USA Alta 32.37 15.25 47.62
29 Christian Boucher 2 CAN Whistler 33.00 13.00 46.00
30 Ian Leeming 133 USA Crested Butte 33.25 33.25
31 Darrell Haggard 126 USA A Basin 27.00 27.00
32 Brendan Levine 108 USA Burke Mountain VT 26.75 26.75
33 Gabe Robbins 77 USA Crested Butte 26.00 26.00
34 Tyson Bolduc 96 USA Vail 25.50 25.50
35 Dex Mills 140 USA Crested Butte 25.25 25.25
36 Eric Freson 107 USA Sugarbush 25.00 25.00
37 Jesse Bryan 40 USA Mt. Bachelor 24.50 24.50
37 Aine Falter 119 USA Crested Butte 24.50 24.50
39 Matthew Mikos 142 USA Crested Butte 23.50 23.50
40 Dylan Crossman 149 USA Alta 23.25 23.25
40 Chris Dach 136 USA Crested Butte 23.25 23.25
42 Sam Wright 141 USA Whistler 21.75 21.75
43 Tony Seibert 116 USA Vail 21.00 21.00
44 Justin Modroo 7 USA Red Lodge 20.25 20.25
45 Mark Welgos 105 USA Aspen 20.00 20.00
46 Jared Locke 120 USA Crested Butte 19.75 19.75
47 Ben Somrak 132 USA Crested Butte 18.75 18.75
48 Mike Leake 115 USA Alpine Meadows 18.50 18.50
48 Didrik Falck-Pedersen 144 NOR Hemsedal 18.50 18.50
50 Matt Luczkow 131 USA Vail 18.00 18.00
51 Joel Jacques 11 CAN Whistler 17.75 17.75
52 Daryn Edmunds 130 USA Snowbird - Alta 17.50 17.50
53 Jon Mullens 24 USA Kirkwood 17.25 17.25
54 John Nicoletta 99 USA Aspen 15.25 15.25
55 Mathew Jackson 114 USA Squaw Valley 11.75 11.75
56 Brady Smedsrud 14 USA Alta 10.50 10.50