Wolf Creek Fatality

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Originally Posted by PTracy P1

Yes, it IS Davey's fault. Beef up the staff for fucks sake. He'll take all the money, but not calibrate for a 5x influx of retards?:rolleyes:

fuck you.

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Hey dipshit, the staff IS beefed up for the holidays. I guarantee you there was a minimum of 25 patrollers on the hill those days. Yep, that's just about the WHOLE patrol. People working two week stretches to cover the extra stffing.
You didn't see them because they were running wrecks all day, literally. Pick one up, drop them off, bring your rig back up and ski off the lift directly to another. Double hat trick days for most of the patrollers. Have you ever done it you moron? I don't think so. I have, there, I know first hand how those days are.

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Originally Posted by PTracy P1

What i DO expect is a certain amount of responsibility from the host of the mountain to ensure that no one gets fucking killed.

We all know the clientelle at Xmas. Bet mgmnt does too. :rolleyes: But to NOT adress what you KNOW is an increased probability of accidents, clusterfucks, etc is dead wrong.

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Skiing is a dangerous sport. People get killed no matter how much policing is done. The public is taken care of to the industry standards by the Wolf Creek Patrol.

What's dumb is bringing your kids into that clusterfuck when you know what it's gonna be like.

Are you from indiana?

Figures.

Dumbass.

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Originally Posted by sanjuanworm

honestly..........
who would try to go resort skiing
on a sat. or sun. over the christmas holiday?
maybe you should plan your trips a little better.
the patrollers that you did not see were probably out working accidents.

calm down....

and stop cunting up a thread that was for some 15 year old dead kid

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WORD...

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Originally Posted by HotCarl

Oh my god,Wolf Creek on a weekend?!! Like that compares to any fuckin I70 resort on a weekend,you dickface.

You are a douchebag of Defjef proportions:the_finge

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Actually, you'd be surprised, it IS mayhem, but no amount of patrolling could make it orderly.

About the second part, dead on.:yourock:

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Originally Posted by sanjuanworm

dont be rude

from what i know of wolfys patrol
they take care of you when you are broken or bleedin
but if your looking for a speeding ticket, go elsewhere

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Yes.

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Originally Posted by sanjuanworm

actually, no i dont get that.
i have children and the common sense to take them skiing on weekdays.

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and a job that allows you weekdays off :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by PTracy P1

hahahhaa you stupid fucks. :fuckyou: just do NOT get it do you?


ANARCHY. That's what it was. Were you there last week? How'd Sat & Sun 28th & 29th go? :rolleyes: It was completely out of control. I had many close calls with complete fucktards that were given no warnings, no words of caution, no nothing. Assholes were scattered everywhere, lines for everything were beyond stupid, and it was not fun for anyone. I had my 8 & 5 year olds almost get nuked by fat assed out of control dickheads who souldn;t stop going uphill. You want another kid wrapping his shit around a tree and dead? I've been skiing for many years, on many mountains, and have seen many nasty things. This was beyond stupid.

I hate the speed police but when you have a place like Wolf Creek, which usually hosts 500-1000 skiers on a good day, take on 5000-6000 on Xmas/NY break and not beef up the staff - you are axing for a fucking tragedy/accident/death. These TX/OK fucktards were ALL over places they had no business riding. People on their second day of rentals asking "what's the easiest way down Treasure?" :gomer:And you have maybe 10 patrollies on the hill?

YES, speed police for these carhart wearing camo-douches. Absofucking lutely.


You caN DISAGREE ALL YOU WANT, BUT THAT'S WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT.

Suck me.:cussing:

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But I have to ask the question,

WHY THE FUCK, would a parent have small children out skiing groomed blue runs during the Holiday shit show?

Moving around on a groomed run with several hundred 1 week a year skiers is like trying to cross a Highway @ 8AM.

Every Yahoo on the planet bombing down the mountain.

And theirs the Gaper lady standing in the middle of the run Clutching her children and screaming at me as I blow by (SLOW DOWN YOU FUCKIN BASTARD):eek:

Bottom line, ski patrol can't make the holiday shit show Kid friendly,

Sometimes you should just keep them out, and dumb it down on the (Kid Safe) green runs.

I am so over the ski families dragging their toddlers all over the mountain on a leash, and expecting every other skier to dumb it down because small children are present.

End rant


EDIT,

Condolences to the family who lost there 11 year old son while on vacation. I cannot begin to imagine how much that would hurt

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Originally Posted by PTracy P1

- you are axing for a fucking tragedy/accident/death.

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Never, ever do this again.

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Originally Posted by Roo

Never, ever do this again.

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Finally someone has the balls to get to the true heart of the matter and state what we've all been thinking!

I salute you sir.:yourock:

Well, at least this has spurred a friendly discusssion. :D

Yes, I am from Indiana. It's where I am from, and where my job is, and where my family is, so fuck you if you do not like it. Not everyone wants to/gets to/has the means to ski where they want, live where they want and ski when they want. I have spent a shitload of time in the Rockies on skis, and just because I live in Indy, does not make me a dumbass. You have no idea who you are talking with, and just because you live in Pagosa/Creede/wherever, it doesn't make you right and me wrong. Or vice -versa. 25 Patrollers? OK, I'll give you that. but evidently it was not enough. JUST like there was not enough staff in the lodges, as Texas gapers were hording/saving tables everywhere, destroying what should have been a great experience.


My boys are 5 & 8 and this was their first trip West. I figgered (yep, like axing) that Wolf Creek would be the LEAST fucked up of Western resorts, in terms of crowds, good skiers vs. idiots (on Blues + ) and I walked away a HUGE fan of the Wolf Pups program in terms of value and results. Did the Texi-tards do that? uh, no. "We ain't need no lessuns". not only do they fuck up my day, but they fuck up their day as well. The only people who make out are the resort owners, and maybe Carrie at the bar, who seemed crushed but with a full tippy jar.

Unlike the fucking retards from Okie Dokie and Texas, I planned 9 days skiing, out for 2 weeks, drove out and spent over 4k. I had my kids in Pups all but the last day, and - along with Wolf pups - I taught them responsibility and courtesy on the mountain. Beginners should stay on Bunny Hop and Turnpike and stay off the Treasure lift or Alberta. Yes, IMHO, Patrol, as an instrument of Management, has the responsibility to make sure these morans do not fuck themselves up, or me and my family.

just because Uncle Dicky bought you a lift ticket and you can get on the lift, it does NOT give you the right to mach down Silver Streak or Tranquility putting yourself and others in danger.

maybe management could adress the problems BEFORE they have to go out and scoop up the goobers non-stop. Maybe.:rolleyes:

And why did we go then? Becuase the kids are in school excpet for the 2 weeks over Xmas. And 2-4 day weekend isn;t going to properly introduce them to skiing the west.


That OK with everyone?:the_finge

indiana, oklahoma, texas, nebraska, iowa, kansas, arkansas, ohio, missouri.......
all the same.

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Originally Posted by PTracy P1

Well, at least this has spurred a friendly discusssion. :D

Yes, I am from Indiana. It's where I am from, and where my job is, and where my family is, so fuck you if you do not like it. Not everyone wants to/gets to/has the means to ski where they want, live where they want and ski when they want. I have spent a shitload of time in the Rockies on skis, and just because I live in Indy, does not make me a dumbass. You have no idea who you are talking with, and just because you live in Pagosa/Creede/wherever, it doesn't make you right and me wrong. Or vice -versa. 25 Patrollers? OK, I'll give you that. but evidently it was not enough. JUST like there was not enough staff in the lodges, as Texas gapers were hording/saving tables everywhere, destroying what should have been a great experience.


My boys are 5 & 8 and this was their first trip West. I figgered (yep, like axing) that Wolf Creek would be the LEAST fucked up of Western resorts, in terms of crowds, good skiers vs. idiots (on Blues + ) and I walked away a HUGE fan of the Wolf Pups program in terms of value and results. Did the Texi-tards do that? uh, no. "We ain't need no lessuns". not only do they fuck up my day, but they fuck up their day as well. The only people who make out are the resort owners, and maybe Carrie at the bar, who seemed crushed but with a full tippy jar.

Unlike the fucking retards from Okie Dokie and Texas, I planned 9 days skiing, out for 2 weeks, drove out and spent over 4k. I had my kids in Pups all but the last day, and - along with Wolf pups - I taught them responsibility and courtesy on the mountain. Beginners should stay on Bunny Hop and Turnpike and stay off the Treasure lift or Alberta. Yes, IMHO, Patrol, as an instrument of Management, has the responsibility to make sure these morans do not fuck themselves up, or me and my family.

just because Uncle Dicky bought you a lift ticket and you can get on the lift, it does NOT give you the right to mach down Silver Streak or Tranquility putting yourself and others in danger.

maybe management could adress the problems BEFORE they have to go out and scoop up the goobers non-stop. Maybe.:rolleyes:

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Somebody get this guy some Immodium. Maybe it'll help stop the spewage.

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Originally Posted by sanjuanworm

indiana, oklahoma, texas, nebraska, iowa, kansas, arkansas, ohio, missouri.......
all the same.

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If you say so.:rolleyes:


Defending the actions of shitty resort owners.........They can do no wrong, eh? And I am wrong just because of where I live now?

I would suggest that the next time you buy a lift ticket, you flip it over and read the back...

YOU are responsible for knowing and skiing within your own limits.

Not ski patrol, not the owners, not anyone else except yourself.

and

SKI AT YOUR OWN RISK

If you want a ski area with speed limits and Nazi mountain safety or patrol or whatever, go to Purgatory.... or Breck, or Keystone or any number of ski resorts.... not Wolfie.

Sounds like you simply didn't do your research. Wolfie is a grass roots organization.
NO, they aren't really set up to handle 6000 people. Their area simply isn't set up to handle that amount of people (and if you think THAT was bad, think of what it'll be like if FUCK TARD "Red" McCombs and his little bitch down in Creede get their way!) so of course it's going to be crazy on the holidays. And look at it's proximity to Texas, NM, etc. OF COURSE IT'S GOING TO BE CRAZY!!! It's a family run ski area. They don't have the money/resources to make it into a "destination family ski resort", NOR do they want to...THANK FUCKING GOD!

My reccomendation... do your research next time. If you want a family friendly resort, then go to one. Try T-ride. They have the best beginner terrain in CO IMHO. But take your pissy attitude else where. It's people like you who ruin the few remaining places like WC for the rest of us.

I was at Wolfie with my 7 and 13 year old on the 28th, riding the Alberta chair when this redneck shit eater gets on from the singles line. We get about a third of the way up and he twangs across the chair "Hey man, you want some meth?". If I was not with my kids I would've thrown the fucker from the chair and not thought twice, instead I just stared him down until he looked the other way. When we got off the lift, I flagged down a patroller hiking up to the ridge and told him the story while pointing out the loser who'd tried to deal me meth and the patroller asked me "So, what should I do?" At this point I was furious, I am by no means a narc, I don't give a shit what you want to snort or smoke but this bastard tried to sell me meth in front of my children, Fuck Him. I figured it was up to me but unfortunatly I was not able to find the guy in the hoard of shit that was skiing / riding that day, so I couldn't do anything.

I don't think it's the patrollers job to police the mtn, but they are the sole authority out there and if they are unwilling to do anything than what power do the rest of us have. They don't have to be the Yellow Coat mtn cops (Purg), nor do I want them to be, but their presence does a lot more to deter douche bags from commiting douche baggery than people realize.

Now that's pretty fuct that patrol wouldn't do anything about that.

You should have just thrown the fucker off the chair.

Dayum, that is fuckkkered up.

You make a good point that the patrollers have more duty than just picking up the gomers that crashed.

Look, I for sure don;t care for some asshole big headed wannabe cop patroller power trippin on me, but when these rednecks are about to hurt themselves (and others), SOMEBODY has to keep them in check.

i've been speed checked at Wolf Creek before....and on a slooooooow March day. Where's the beef on the wall-to-wall Holiday crowd?

double standard much?


Yep.



Sure seems to be all about the money to me.:fuckyou: