Cockiness and kayaking don't mix

Isn't Juicer on the bottom 5? And don't most people around there consider the bottom 5 to be class IV+ ish? Interesting that they call it a 5.2

Oh wait, Surprise on the SF Payette is a benchmark IV+. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by RootSkier

I don't really care if people want to call the Gauley class V as long as they realize that they will get destroyed on class IV in BC if the Gauley is challenging for them.

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Would you agree though that Big Water and Creeking require an entire different skill set?

i.e, someone who regularly paddles low volume class V (5.00000) creeks in their creekboat is nervous on the Gauley in their playboat. This is not a "hypothetical situation", Ive heard the comment from this person.

Or someone who playboats and runs only class IV big water all the time would probably be nervous as hell on a low volume IV creek.

Totally true. The first time I paddled the upper G I was with some kid from Georgia who had never seen anything like the G, and he was pretty wigged out even though he had run a bunch of hard creeks. Coming from MT/ID, I was like, what's the big deal?

That's why you should paddle it all.

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Originally Posted by ridinshockgun

Would you agree though that Big Water and Creeking require an entire different skill set?

i.e, someone who regularly paddles low volume class V (5.00000) creeks in their creekboat is nervous on the Gauley in their playboat. This is not a "hypothetical situation", Ive heard the comment from this person.

Or someone who playboats and runs only class IV big water all the time would probably be nervous as hell on a low volume IV creek.

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If its in the East and there is a hole, its class IV. If its in the west, and there is a rock sticking out of the water, its class IV :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by RootSkier

Isn't Juicer on the bottom 5? And don't most people around there consider the bottom 5 to be class IV+ ish? Interesting that they call it a 5.2

Oh wait, Surprise on the SF Payette is a benchmark IV+. :rolleyes:

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Yeah, most of the locals call the Lower 5 IV+ until flows push 3k or so. I've ran Juicer upwards of 6k and I still think Nut and Jake's should be ranked higher at much lower flows. Nut has a couple tough moves but it's boogey water below it while Jake's has Ocean Wave into another couple miles of continuous V. A lot of people walk Jake's and put on at the the back nine of golf course. Hound's Tooth is a IV+ until flows get over 3k. I guess it's all based on opinion so you better know what you are getting into.

I could see Surprise being a IV but it better be high flows through there...like the 5500 hundred it hit last summer.

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Originally Posted by Yonder_River

When you heading to the Grand? :cool:

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Already finished it man, moved into my dorm at CC a few days ago an I'm now enjoying college. I'll post a TR soon, here and at PP.

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Originally Posted by kayaktheworld

Already finished it man, moved into my dorm at CC a few days ago an I'm now enjoying college. I'll post a TR soon, here and at PP.

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Nice!




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