Burning copies of protected DVD's - on an iMac

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11-27-2006, 01:07 PM
Long duc dong

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Originally Posted by P_McPoser

Forgot about this thread. The hypocracy in this place fucking amazes me sometimes. Yes, I bet everyone makes copies of movies "as back ups."
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Yes, I would love to be able to do that. If I had I would still have Yearbook. I cannot speak for everyone else but my reasons are completely legitimate. Once you buy music/movies once, you should never have to buy them again.
11-27-2006, 01:08 PM
Free Range Lobster

Quote:

Originally Posted by P_McPoser

Oh wait, nevermind, I forgot that video and music piracy are "sticking it to the man," so that's OK.
My bad guys, I was wrong.

Go cry on www.thepiratebay.com

I'm sure they'll appreciate the argument.
11-27-2006, 01:12 PM
cj001f

Quote:

Originally Posted by P_McPoser

Forgot about this thread. The hypocracy in this place fucking amazes me sometimes. Yes, I bet everyone makes copies of movies "as back ups."
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

It's hypocrisy you retard. There isn't much, more hypocritical than you with an avatar that is infringing on the University of Arizona's copyright ranting about other IP thieves.

I gasp pay to download movies. I'd even pay to purchase them in a digital only format when the titles i want become available that way, because I don't like dragging around DVDs.
11-27-2006, 01:59 PM
hutash

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Originally Posted by Long duc dong

Yes, I would love to be able to do that. If I had I would still have Yearbook. I cannot speak for everyone else but my reasons are completely legitimate. Once you buy music/movies once, you should never have to buy them again.

I find this logic interesting. So if anything you buy; car, washing machine, book, CD, DVD, vinyl record, et cetera, wear out you should get a new one?

I copy tapes, CDs and DVDs, so I am not preaching or accusing, just making an observation.
11-27-2006, 02:01 PM
Free Range Lobster

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Originally Posted by hutash

I find this logic interesting. So if anything you buy; car, washing machine, book, CD, DVD, vinyl record, et cetera, wear out you should get a new one?

I'd be happy with being able to get a replacement anything at cost of manufacturing.
11-27-2006, 02:15 PM
ripitoff

Hey ilkwilk

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Originally Posted by ripitoff
Ok I understand that profiting from stolen intellectual property is different than just using it for personnel use

"Fair use laws vs IP laws read up."
Guess I have some reading to do.

You probably think GNU and Open Source are the same thing too right?
Uh...more reading I guess

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Originally Posted by ripitoff
I know there are legitimate legal and moral reasons for bypassing protection software.

"Dongles are the most annoying invention know to man."
Agreed. A hardware dongle malfunction cost my business thousands of dollars before we were able to figure out what was up.

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I also am not guilt free here for I have a ton of music whose source is rather grey.

"You either stole it or you didn't. There is no middle ground."
I was given a gift of a sixty gigabyte hard disk with mostly rare classical and jazz music. I know a lot of it was downloaded peer to peer. I am enjoying some nice flaminco music from it right now.

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Just thought I'd throw a little thought into the topic since the threads on photography has had me rethink some of my views on such issues.

"If you want to argue IP vs Fair Use then make a new thread YOU STUPID FUCKING JONG."As obvious by my handeling of the quotes function I am to much of a STUPID FUCKING JONG to know how to start a thread.:p
11-27-2006, 02:18 PM
Free Range Lobster

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Originally Posted by ripitoff

I was given a gift of a sixty gigabyte hard disk with mostly rare classical and jazz music. I know a lot of it was downloaded peer to peer. I am enjoying some nice flaminco music from it right now.

The law dosen't care whether it was "given" to you or not.
If you can't provide proof of purchase or a license as it were, then you lose.

Learn how to use the quote button, its pretty simple.
11-27-2006, 02:19 PM
72Twenty

If you must know, the reason I was asking was so that I could burn copies of movies to keep in the vehicle so that we can use them in our DVD player on road trips. All I wanted to know was if it were possible or not. Sheesh. :rolleyes2
11-27-2006, 02:22 PM
Free Range Lobster

And for anyone looking and too afraid to ask:

http://www.mactheripper.org/

http://www.afterdawn.com/software/vi...dvd_shrink.cfm
11-27-2006, 02:35 PM
P_McPoser

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj001f

It's hypocrisy you retard. There isn't much, more hypocritical than you with an avatar that is infringing on the University of Arizona's copyright ranting about other IP thieves.

Match: cj001f
:tongue:
11-27-2006, 02:58 PM
wi3dzmin

dvdshrink here too... it hasn't been updated in a while afaik, so where it fails against the protection that assclowns also waiting for dibs on your firstborns put on the dvds there's AnyDVD.
11-27-2006, 04:18 PM
ripitoff

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Originally Posted by likwid

The law dosen't care whether it was "given" to you or not.
If you can't provide proof of purchase or a license as it were, then you lose.

Not so sure about that. Being in possesion of stolen property is not in itself proof of theft. The burden of proof would still rest on the prosecution

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Originally Posted by likwid

Learn how to use the quote button, its pretty simple.

By jove I think I've got it :smile:
11-27-2006, 04:23 PM
Free Range Lobster

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Originally Posted by ripitoff

Not so sure about that. Being in possesion of stolen property is not in itself proof of theft. The burden of proof would still rest on the prosecution

No license = proof.
You can't walk into court and say "OH I LOST THEM BUT I OWN THEM I PROMISE JUDGE".
11-27-2006, 04:36 PM
ripitoff

so... I buy some cds and download them to my ipod and it is my legal responsibility to keep the receipts? Sounds pretty weak to me.
11-27-2006, 04:57 PM
Free Range Lobster

Quote:

Originally Posted by ripitoff

so... I buy some cds and download them to my ipod and it is my legal responsibility to keep the receipts? Sounds pretty weak to me.

Same thing with audits.
I dealt with one large scale audit at a university I worked at.
We ended up throwing a lot of hardware & software away.

Better to trash it than get held responsible for it.
11-27-2006, 05:24 PM
ripitoff

Interesting. You threw away hardware because you didn't have proof of ownership? How did you originally obtain it? Or was it expensed instead of depreciated?

I do recognize purchase proof needed for businesses, but this is primarily to prove a business expense pre tax dollars.

I also understand software licensing...but I still think lack of proof of ownership of music would not be a problem.

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