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Because you had to wait all the way to Trump to get a president worse than Carter. Both are likely to hold the titles of "worst president" of their respective century (at least we hope that nobody worse than Trump shows up).Quote:
Originally Posted by Cruiser
That Carter was classy and kind is a defining difference.
Holy shit, we often disagree, but calling Jimmy almost as bad as Dumps is next level shit. CongratsQuote:
Originally Posted by summit
Carter built houses and taught sunday school
Trump was a pussy grabbing rapist and became a convicted felon
a difference in exactly what is worst ?
Worse than Nixon or Hoover, really?Quote:
Originally Posted by summit
We could debate about whether Wilson or Hoover was worse.
Nixon's dirty tricks don't seem much worse than the shit people pulled since, even if you remove the order of magnitude worse that Trump has done. Also, we are buds with Vietnam now. The wars Carter spawned killed far more than Nixon's continuation.
I hold Carter responsible both for global warming (he killed nuclear power) and for most of the middle east shit that we've been involved with from Iran to Iraq to Syria to Yemen they all stem from his pure fucking impotence and incompetence in handling Iran. And all of that led to the American domestic oil industry we have now out of necessity.
I didn't say almost as bad as. I did say worse than. Trump is Pierce level of bad. Headed toward Buchanan level of bad. Yea you gotta go back that far to find worse... but he could still yet pull off worst of all time so far... hopefully not. There is something about the fact that Trump loves to hang of up the Jackson portrait... and I put him 3rd behind Pierce for awful 18th century presidents.Quote:
Originally Posted by liv2ski
Carter was willing to accept short term pain. Politics is never kind to people who won't lie and blame others for any collateral damage.
You want to talk about lasting effects? Nixon normalized the things that have led to virtually all of our current problems: sacrificing long term strategy for short term started the unchecked rise of China, and putting party before country to justify anything that wins elections draws a direct line to the worst shit people pulled since.
Roger Stone may not have found much work with serious candidates for a while after Nixon, but he's been helping Trump since his failed bid at the 2000 Reform nomination, at least. And it's hard to talk about Carter on Iran without the Iran Contra Affair, which only seems like some light treason from a post-Nixon perspective.
Hell, Nixon gave us the doctrine that the president is above the law, which has finally led to the SCOTUS rolling back a basic check on executive power as long as an act is "official." Which would have been a great loophole at the signing of the Magna Carta.
Camp David accords alone should place him above most President's.
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So good
If you want to point fingers regarding Iran, it's not Jimmy Carter you want to point at.Quote:
Originally Posted by summit
Watched the motorcade pass by my office tower on his way to Dobbins AFB today to be taken to the US Capitol.
It's been cool hearing and reading all the stories from those here who were so proud of the only President to hail from this state.
My country clubs flag is not at half mast. Probably not a mistake…being a country club.
That’s a trade weighted chart.Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong;[emoji[emoji6[emoji640
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/currency
Yeah those fucking country club types.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4matic
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4matic
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trad...%20US%20trade.
Who do I have to yell at about my seat assignment at this thing?
Sir, this is a Wendy's
No post today. Thanks, Jimmy.