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08-19-2020, 10:39 AM
funkendrenchman

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Originally Posted by The AD

Does anyone here have any experience or advice about applying for permanent residency in Canada?

Is this a contingency plan?
08-19-2020, 10:39 AM
Gcooker

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Originally Posted by Timberridge

True. And if you're a Blue Jays fan...

There's really no reason to go to Canada anymore. We have good beer here now.

Don’t forget the strippers, particularly in Montreal... definitely worth the trip.
08-19-2020, 10:40 AM
Timberridge

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Originally Posted by The AD

Would I have to renounce my Tigers fanship?

Then what about Detroit? It's even closer to Canada than Buffalo.

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Originally Posted by Gcooker

Don’t forget the strippers, particularly in Montreal... definitely worth the trip.

Yeah, what's going on there with Covid now? When you factored in you could get a lap dance for 20% less than in the US it was a no brainer.
08-19-2020, 10:41 AM
BmillsSkier

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Originally Posted by Timberridge

They also have Tim Hortons.

Are we sure Canada didn't annex Buffalo already? The similarities are too many to overlook.

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Originally Posted by The AD

Would I have to renounce my Tigers fanship?

Detroit still has a team?

:fmicon:
08-19-2020, 10:42 AM
BmillsSkier

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Originally Posted by Timberridge

Then what about Detroit? It's even closer to Canada than Buffalo.

I'm positive you can scoop up a nice place in Detroit that would allow you to say "I can see Canada from my house".

Think of the savings.
08-19-2020, 10:44 AM
The AD

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Originally Posted by BmillsSkier

Are we sure Canada didn't annex Buffalo already? The similarities are too many to overlook.

Detroit still has a team?

:fmicon:

At this point they seem to exist just for other teams to beat up on. Same as the Mariners. Maybe it is time to start following the Blue Jays...

Yes, I could live large in Detroit. Still not appealing.
08-19-2020, 10:45 AM
glademaster

Amazing beer in Michigan. Bell's Two Hearted Ale is the beer that began my love affair with IPA.

The Clarkston Union's mac and cheese is damn near worth a trip to The Mitten on it's own. And I'll take a controversial stance and say the Woodshop is a superior BBQ joint to Slow's. Plus, Kid Rock might buy you a drink while you're almost inevitably waiting for a table at the Union and/or Woodshop.

Damn, I'm going to have to go back for a football weekend in the fall of 2021.
08-19-2020, 10:50 AM
Timberridge

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Originally Posted by The AD

At this point they seem to exist just for other teams to beat up on. Same as the Mariners. Maybe it is time to start following the Blue Jays...

Dave Dombrowski seems to have left a trail of wreckage at every team he's been at lately.
08-19-2020, 10:50 AM
The AD

I already lived in Michigan for 27 years. No interest in returning.
08-19-2020, 10:56 AM
ötzi

Canada's kinda tough on legal immigration but soft on illegal. Just sneak in there and claim asylum, they'll never send you back here once you're there.
08-19-2020, 10:57 AM
dan_pdx

I had a colleague who is an Indian national who got sick of being held captive by his H1B visa. Green cards have a quota system by country of origin (x thousand per year per country), and there are enough applicants before him that he knew he wouldn't get a green card for decades. He applied for Canadian PR and got it in about six months. Coincidentally (?) he was headhunted by a Canadian company in our industry around the time he got his PR, and has been living there for just over a year now.

My understanding is the PR system is points-based, so the key criteria for him and his wife were:
-high education, with 3 master's degrees between the two of them
-his wife is an engineer (I think, not sure what kind)
-both fluent in English, neither speaks any French as far as I know
-In their mid-30s
-Both professionals, so while I don't think they're millionaires, they weren't a high risk to be living on the street

From my perspective, it seemed much easier / smoother than I expected. The one wrinkle is that at a certain age, I understand you lose points -- just like other posters mentioned upthread, they don't want people that will be heavy users of healthcare, or at least you need to have something else that makes you attractive.
08-19-2020, 10:57 AM
skaredshtles

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Originally Posted by The AD

<snip>
Yes, I could live large in Detroit. Still not appealing.

Yeah. FTS. I escaped after 22 years and will NEVER be returning other than for visits...
08-19-2020, 10:58 AM
bennymac

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Originally Posted by liv2ski

Both my single and cute daughters have Canadian citizenship, are not in serious relationships and are likely open to meeting 30ish young men that have their shit very together and are on task to make bank. PM your application to pass on ;)

Are they looking for 30 men each? Or like 15 and 15....
08-19-2020, 11:01 AM
glademaster

I didn't know Piper Perri was one of Liv2Ski's daughters.
08-19-2020, 11:01 AM
Timberridge

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Originally Posted by ötzi

Canada's kinda tough on legal immigration but soft on illegal. Just sneak in there and claim asylum, they'll never send you back here once you're there.

Do you have a preferred method?
08-19-2020, 11:07 AM
The AD

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Originally Posted by dan_pdx

I had a colleague who is an Indian national who got sick of being held captive by his H1B visa. Green cards have a quota system by country of origin (x thousand per year per country), and there are enough applicants before him that he knew he wouldn't get a green card for decades. He applied for Canadian PR and got it in about six months. Coincidentally (?) he was headhunted by a Canadian company in our industry around the time he got his PR, and has been living there for just over a year now.

My understanding is the PR system is points-based, so the key criteria for him and his wife were:
-high education, with 3 master's degrees between the two of them
-his wife is an engineer (I think, not sure what kind)
-both fluent in English, neither speaks any French as far as I know
-In their mid-30s
-Both professionals, so while I don't think they're millionaires, they weren't a high risk to be living on the street

From my perspective, it seemed much easier / smoother than I expected. The one wrinkle is that at a certain age, I understand you lose points -- just like other posters mentioned upthread, they don't want people that will be heavy users of healthcare, or at least you need to have something else that makes you attractive.

Both my wife and I have jobs that are on "the list" (https://www.immigration.ca/fast-trac...nd-occupations) so that's a plus. To be honest if I moved to Canada I wouldn't want to work as an engineer, though. I'd like to keep my current job until I'm ready to retire, although I realize that wouldn't help my chances. My wife has her own company here and could do exactly the same thing in Canada.
08-19-2020, 11:07 AM
Danno

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Originally Posted by Gcooker

Don’t forget the strippers, particularly in Montreal... definitely worth the trip.

PM Sugarloafer.
08-19-2020, 11:30 AM
TBS

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Originally Posted by altasnob

I have friend who is model US citizen, no criminal history, worked for NOLS, fancy college grad. She was denied entry in Canada because border guard didn't like her fully loaded subaru (she was doing a multi-month road trip). Thought she was trying to illegally immigrate.

Yes, border guards on both sides of the border can be arbitrary and capricious.
Former business partner was Canadian citizen. Retired Army Colonel, served in CA Intelligence Corps. Came to Houston for a meeting with our investors. Border guy started interrogating him about whether he was trying to illegally immigrate.

He told me he replied along the lines of "Why the fuck would I want to live in this shithole country? If I get sick, or shot in a drive-by I'm fucked, you spend all your tax revenue on stupid wars, and the government here (Bush Jr at the time) is run by a bunch of morons."

That got him a trip to the "Special Area" where they gave him more shit for a couple of hours. Meanwhile I was cooling my heels in the airport wondering where he was.

He vowed never to return to USA.
08-19-2020, 11:34 AM
evdog

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Originally Posted by The AD

Both my wife and I have jobs that are on "the list" (https://www.immigration.ca/fast-trac...nd-occupations) so that's a plus. To be honest if I moved to Canada I wouldn't want to work as an engineer, though. I'd like to keep my current job until I'm ready to retire, although I realize that wouldn't help my chances. My wife has her own company here and could do exactly the same thing in Canada.

What occupations are not on that list? Considering starbucks baristas probably self-identify as "5121 - Writers and authors" and life coaches under "4216 Other instructors" seems like they'll let pretty much anyone in :)
08-19-2020, 11:35 AM
The AD

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Originally Posted by evdog

What occupations are not on that list? Considering starbucks baristas probably self-identify as "5121 - Writers and authors" and life coaches under "4216 Other instructors" seems like they'll let pretty much anyone in :)

Yeah, the list seems awfully comprehensive...

edit: the real key is there's a point system based on six factors: English and/or French language skills, education level attained, work experience, age, arranged employment in Canada, and "adaptability." If you score high enough you can then apply through the Express Entry process which uses a separate scoring system.

There is definitely a premium put on those who can enter the workforce in Canada and work for a long time. For age points it peaks at 12 if you're 18-35 and then starts dropping off. You get a bigfat zero if you're 47 or older.
08-19-2020, 11:40 AM
Meadow Skipper

I understand that employment is a sticky issue for Canadian immigration, and I played with one of those websites but there wasn’t an entry for retired people. Anyone know how they feel about retired folks with bomber pension/IRA? Asking for...myself.
08-19-2020, 11:53 AM
riser4

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Originally Posted by Danno

PM Sugarloafer.

That never gets old.
08-19-2020, 12:04 PM
Kevo

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Originally Posted by liv2ski

The border guys will catch on quick, so meeeh. I am assuming you would work from home (in Canada for a US company) as you could not work in Canada.

Look on the website and see if you have the skills needed and if yes apply. Both my single and cute daughters have Canadian citizenship, are not in serious relationships and are likely open to meeting 30ish young men that have their shit very together and are on task to make bank. PM your application to pass on ;)

I fit that profile. In addition, I love poutine, hockey and maple syrup and dogs. I'm pretty good about saying "sorry". I've traveled to more than 30 countries and BC is one of my top 3 favorite places in the world.
08-19-2020, 12:22 PM
Timberridge

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Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper

I understand that employment is a sticky issue for Canadian immigration, and I played with one of those websites but there wasn’t an entry for retired people. Anyone know how they feel about retired folks with bomber pension/IRA? Asking for...myself.

Park $1MM at CIBC and they'll get in touch.

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Originally Posted by The AD

Yeah, the list seems awfully comprehensive...

2141- Former prince's of the crown
08-19-2020, 12:23 PM
beer30

FTW

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Originally Posted by ötzi

Canada's kinda tough on legal immigration but soft on illegal. Just sneak in there and claim asylum, they'll never send you back here once you're there.

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