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There have been countless scientific claims in recent modern history that have been supported by "overwhelming scientific evidence" that have later proven to be utter bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrianH
Again, I'm not questioning climate change specifically, rather our ability to fully understand science. Especially science that starts from the beginning of time, before humans existed.
'Science' isn't something we ever fully understand - that's the point. Science is the process by which we build our understanding of the physical world.
Human-caused AGW and evolution are both theories - just like gravity and electricity. That doesn't mean they're not very, very well supported by massive amounts of solid evidence. People get too hung up on the meaning of the word 'theory'.
When I drop a wrench, it hits the floor. When I turn on a blender, the blade spins, but only if it's plugged into a wall. Not a big stretch of the imagination to believe those mechanisms.Quote:
Originally Posted by roadgap
Understanding the history and physics of a planet that is 4 billion years old is a little more complex, and to think we have it all figured just yet seems unlikely.
At the risk of going all poly ass-hat on this; pretty much this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trackhead
Are we as humans having an impact on the planet? Absolutely. To the extent that jackwagons like Al Gore theorize? Debatable.
In other news, I'm excited to see all.I.can. I'm loving the cinematography the recent bike and ski films are producing. My only gripe is that I don't like politics/causes/awareness in my skiing flicks.
edit: flick looks sick and one of the few I'll catch this fall.
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PhD, Molec. &Cell BiologyQuote:
Originally Posted by Trackhead
B.S., Microbiology and Biochemistry.
And yours?
Using facts to uphold a theory =/ claiming a theory is a fact.
The theory is just a general assumption based on the collective knowledge of the facts and actual measurements at a given point in time. Often these measurements are subject to a degree of inaccuracy based on limits of instrumentation, errors in accounting for confounding factors, and occasionally human error. New methods and technologies emerge and the science is refined to reflect the advances that make it possible.
Skeptism of scientific theory is normal and healthy, and the primary factor into research that drives the evolution of a scientific theory. The irrational distrust of the scientific process as a whole is what I find troubling, and honestly I believe this to be a more recent internet driven and 24hr news cycle phenomenon. The "countless claims" proven wrong represent but a fraction of the total facts accumulated yet remain the focus of those who have a distrust of science and see it as being beyond the human comprehension.
The percentage of scientists claiming "they have it all figured out" re: global warming is likely a similar % to those claiming it isn't occurring at all.
Tech Talk, bitchez!
Nobody thinks we have it 'all figured out'. But the idea that pumping billions on tons of C02 into a delicately balanced atmospheric system woudln't have measurable effects is a bit silly too. And there is a lot of very clear data that ties C02 emissions to climate change. It's not like these are just wild guesses. The supporting data is there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trackhead
The best thing (short term) to come of reducing carbon emissions is hopefully less dependence on foreign oil, less wars, less fucking up of coast lines, less smog in SLC, etc. Whether it is the dominant driving force in climate change, is to me, still in question.
I think our overall view of the climate of this earth is limited by our time spent on it.
Carry on and enjoy the flick. I love their cinematography, but the story is played out. And the way they chose to film it (heli's, etc) is total bullshit, given the point of the film.
Saw the film (I will actually call this a film) at the Vancouver premier last night and was blown away. I was expecting quality cinematography based on the trailer and some of Jordan Manley's web edits, but wow, this was by far the best cinematography of any sports movie I have ever seen. I was more impressed with it in that respect than Art of Flight. The timelapses, scenic shots, light and colour, sharpness and just the way everything is framed was amazing.
The skiing is great, only a bit of jumping, most big terrain and powder. Kye goes nuts in this, huge tricks at mach 5, straightlining the runnels inbetween spines etc. Cool locations are visited and skied. The JP Auclair urban segment is as good as everyone says, had some of the loudest cheers of the night. Editing and soundtrack were really well done (including Tool, LCD Soundsystem).
I was skeptical of the messaging at first, but by the end it is basically "everyone is a hypocrite, we are not, and don't expect others, to stop enjoying recreation in the mountain, but hope to find innovation to reduce our use of fossil fuels through positive changes". Treadway makes the point that without mining/forestry, the access roads to where he goes would not exist. Overall, I thought it was decent messaging without being overly preachy.
I wish the segment in the Tantalus range was longer, seemed like only 2 or 3 shots of Kye skiing? Maybe they were only out for a day or two.
Haven't seen MSP or TGR yet this year, but will definitely buying this on Blu-ray and watching it many times I'm sure. Stood out as unique versus filler ski porn.
Bump because this is on Netflix streaming now, and I watched part of it in the airport traveling. It's quite good.
PSA: Valhalla is on Netflix as well