Very good point.Quote:
Originally Posted by gramps
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Very good point.Quote:
Originally Posted by gramps
Wrong, Last year Heavenly open 3 backcountry gates, Monument, Firebreak/Gondi Line/Palisides, and Railys are all legal nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Cirquerider
Pretty much the only areas that are out of bounds and can be ropped and closed that I know of are areas that would avalanche down onto the hill. Whitewater has a couple such areas that get closed, but if you start from the road and walk to the out of bounds area and ski back through the ski area they can't do shite.Quote:
Originally Posted by PlayHarder
Squaw-
Cross a boundry and die.
New Zealand - Open BC policy everywhere. The only exceptions being permanently closed areas which are few and far between, such as the bluffs above the road at Mt Hutt.
Crested Butte: no where to go...its all ski area owned. The mountain is like an island. If its closed, its either slide potential, not enough snow or permanently closed. The new okemo owners have been aggressive opening new areas. Don't poach however, your pass will be pulled without question.
Monarch: ski where you want, just lie about cutting the line and hide your pass....tell them you hiked, slednecked it, or hitchhiked in.
-aaron
what does the BC accessable from mammoth look like? reaccess the lifts?
Seeing there's not too much backcountry in New England (thats a lie), here's the list of boundary-to-boundary policies:
Jay Peak
Smuggler's Notch
Mad River Glen
...more?
Also noteworthy: Sugarbush's Slide Brook Basin
Since it hasn't been posted here yet and it's quite contentious I figured I'd throw it out there:
Mt Hood Meadows: Strictly closed.
Leaving Meadows' terrain after using any lift is cause to have your ticket/pass yanked.
As a side note, would anyone be interested in creating a "comprehensive" database of these policies? I've got web space and the know how to make it happen, although I'm a bit short on time right now.
Ohh should mention the same in Zermatt -- they have certain wildlife protection zones in the trees and we've heard they'll snap your pass for entering them. Too bad for a few of the areas, but there's generally enough to go around anyway...
Here are the Southern California resorts....
Bear Mountain - Technically a closed boundary, but there are just a bunch of signs warning you that you're doing something dangerous. The side country areas are heavily skied.
Waterman - Closed boundary, but the rules are generally ignored by customers. At one point the "man" (I'm not sure which agency) was ticketing people skiing out of bounds. This is of course irrelevant, since the resort may or may not open this year.
Mt Baldy - Again a closed boundary that isn't really respected. The resort has been known to run "backcountry" tours.
Mountain High - Closed boundary. For a while they were pulling tickets for people that skied the area between the two resorts. However I seem to remember hearing that the resort had relaxed its policy.
Snow Summit - Closed boundaries, but there's nothing worth skiing out of bounds anyway.
Snow Valley - I'm not sure what the official policy is, but I do know that people leave the boundaries on a semi-regular basis.
Alyeska, AK- none for you, never, ever, at all, ever (unless we see a change in ownership and a replacement of all upper management)[fingers crossed]
but thats OK there's enough terrain to keep all of LA happy for the next 50 years :cool:
solitude and brighton have great access also. about snowbird I beleive that alta actually sold the land to them years ago. I'm not sure if that's right, but that's what I've heard from slc locals.
Some Tahoe resorts:
Alpine Meadows: Forest Service land means open boundaries, access to Grouse/Rock Ridge and Twin Peaks via High T, access to the Buttress via Estelle/Bernie's Saddles, Munchkins, Outer Outer, etc.
Squaw: Private land means getting your ass kicked for trying it, especially White Wolf.