Fuck, some of you have way more time on your hands than I do....been known to just quickly freehand a mount the morning before skiing....
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Fuck, some of you have way more time on your hands than I do....been known to just quickly freehand a mount the morning before skiing....
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So , my understanding is that the goal is matching the center of the boot ( which is marked) and the preferred line in the ski.
I have remounted using existing holes and from what I can tell, the mount is too far forward and was probably for a much larger boot? Is this the right thinking? The pencil lines on the boots show boot marked centre and the matching Hoji recommended mount point.
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That's so close (+5/6mm?) you won't notice the difference.
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^^^ Seems I am seeing something completely different from your pic. It looks like you are more like an inch forward of recommended.
Isn’t hoji mount point already pretty far forward ?
If thats the case I’d be redrilling .
The recommended mount is 4 cm back from mid ( 88-4). The mount right now is 3cm forward of that mark ( for a 310 bsl. ) I think the pic is misleading. The forward mark is by the sticky on bottom of pic. If it was only the 3-5 mm I agree I wouldn’t worry about it ... but it is more than that unfortunately.
So either the person was Bigfoot and is a 330 bsl or was mounted forward accidentally on purpose? The mid line for a 310 matches almost exactly the Center line on the ski at 88.
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I figure I am redrilling .
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Yeah redrill. i found the hoji most fun with bsl at side cut center. Rec is 1.5-3cm fwd of side cut depending on size.
From what I read... I double checked with a straight pull from tails, found / confirmed the 88, then go 4 back ... these are 187’s .
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exactly an inch?
odd coincidence?
^^^^ that what I thought as I typed and did the math [emoji849]. Maybe keeping it simple for those peeps mounting at home. 1 beer becomes 4 pretty quick.
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The old Rossi jigs required 5mm of forward movement from rec when drilling the heel piecesQuote:
Originally Posted by mufasa5446
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So I'm mounting some new-to-me skis Reusing two binding freedom holes from a previous mount and I want to put inserts in the rest. Is there any reason for me not to go straight to drilling for inserts vs. drilling + mounting normally first?
Going straight to inserts is fine but you should always pilot drill first before using the larger diameter QK/BF bit.
I didn’t know that, why is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyderjon
I'm confused.Quote:
Originally Posted by spotted dogs
What is straight pull length of entire ski. A 187 hoji I imagine is at least 184 actual length. Split that in half and you have 92. If you minus the recommended -4, you get the recommended 88 measurement.
88 IS your mark.
What am I missing here?
I didn't do that when I just installed inserts, and the instructions didn't mention it - but if you're using a hand drill it could help you get a cleaner and more centered hole when you use the F bit for the inserts.Quote:
Originally Posted by thejongiest
I've been trying to understand what's going on with these too and I can't make sense of it. Where does the 88 come from. Is this as simple as dividing 187 or a bit less by 2 and getting 88 as your answer and going with that for ski center? I would think more like 92 or 93 also. Whatever it is it should get you to the same spot measuring from tip and tail.Quote:
Originally Posted by tuco
The pull is measured from the tail.
I think I am overthinking this as well.
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Yep.
What I'm saying is just make sure the mark is in fact 88 and put your boot center there. You don't need to measure -4 as it has been done for you
where are you getting the 88 from? and what point on the ski do you believe this is giving you?Quote:
Originally Posted by spotted dogs
Think about how one measures ski length tip to tail across the top OR tip to tail across the bottom which has an increased circufrence ?
which is probaby why recommendations for ski center are given from tail
My gut feeling is that this isn't the issue here. Something else in play, likely the "88"Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
Mounting line for 187 Hoji is 88 from tailQuote:
Originally Posted by unclebill