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What is it you're saying I deserve?Quote:
Originally Posted by ex-powderbroker
Do you admit that there are any downsides with a national registry, but think its ultimately worth it? Or is it purely a good thing, unequivocally and undualistically?
Why add the insult? Just because you're a nasty person with a heart full of hate? if I were like you I probably wouldn't trust anyone else with a gun either.
Sorry I missed it. Michael Che did not!Quote:
Originally Posted by paulster2626
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you should feel the guilt over indifference to tens of thousands of preventable deaths that your shitty opinions enable.
next time you read about a suicide with a just purchased gun, that was you.
mass shooting, you again
kid in chicago with a gun from indiana? yup, you
eta: let’s not forget about kids in prison schools. thanks, leroy!
It involves a firearm. That’s fucking weird.Quote:
Originally Posted by leroy jenkins
Your hate is far more culpable.Quote:
Originally Posted by ex-powderbroker
People don't kill themselves just because there is a gun. they do it because they find the world to be a cold inhospitable place. But ok, cling to your hate if you want.
Yeah, the do. But pease go on.
I learned an interesting fact today that was parallel to the US gun issue…
One of the reasons the US has more automobile accident fatalities than the EU (outside of the fact we drive more, take transit less, and have larger vehicles) is that 9% of US drivers don’t wear seatbelts compared to 2% of EU drivers…
We’re a culture of “I do whatever the fuck I want regardless of logic”
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not its not the cause. No one starts having suicidal ideation just because guns exist. that is ridiculous. You could argue lack of access to guns would prevent suicide, but its absolutely ridiculous to argue that just their existence is what causes suicidal ideation and tendencies. thats like a lifetime of trauma hurt etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cisco Kid
You guys have a great day. This has been super weird and disappointingly crazy. I hope you all can get some therapy and maybe at least consider that your hate might not be something worth clinging to. I'll try and believe you're just trolling me and aren't actually like this.
What the fuck is this word salad? I asked if you support background checks and red flag laws to deal with the mental health issue that you claim is the issue. You ramble on about trans kids? Just say no, you don’t support anything except more guns and more death. At least own it, don’t start rambling about trans people who just want the same rights to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness as the rest of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by leroy jenkins
And how does the fact more euros smoke cigs fit into this?Quote:
Originally Posted by nickwm21
Because I support them if they're done right. You asked if I support them just yes or no. Thats BPD level binary thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flounder
loser energy right there.Quote:
Originally Posted by leroy jenkins
I don't even know where to start with this pile of bullshit except that mask use/adoption was a huge net gain at the height of the pandemic before vaccine adoption. There are some negative consequences but I'll take living through negative consequences with some level of goods and services available over the massively higher death toll and fewer goods and services wtih no masks. Imagine finding people to work fucking retail at the height with no mask mandates? We'd be have been totally fucked dipshit. And ya, the people who were throwing toddler tantrums over it are the mostly same people throwing toddler tantrums at the notion of having to go to McDonalds without a fucking gun. 100% stand by that statement..Quote:
Originally Posted by leroy jenkins
Tell us again about how the US is no different than other developed countries when it comes to guns and gun violence. Back it up with stats.
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Marketing, propensity for addiction, and personal susceptibility coupled with cultural acceptability.Quote:
Originally Posted by leroy jenkins
Thanks for drawing a great parallel to US gun culture.
No one is arguing that.Quote:
Originally Posted by leroy jenkins
The opportunity/availability & the immediacy/finality make guns ripe for someone who is challenged with suicidal thoughts to act on their thoughts. There is more often than not no second chance when someone reaches for a gun to end their life.
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/means-m...case-fatality/
https://everytownresearch.org/report...ung-americans/
Further, stats correlate that states with higher gun ownership also have higher suicide rates among men, women and children.
And the lethality of firearms vs the next most attempted type of suicide, drug OD, shows drug suicide is far less successful & often can be reversed.
https://www.mentalhelp.net/blogs/guns-and-suicide/
guns are an available and efficient means to kill oneself. when the means are less available and efficient then suicide rates go down. suicide is often an impulse behavior, which is why often you see failed attempters so grateful for another chance,but guns are designed to kill and usually suffice for the purpose.Quote:
Originally Posted by leroy jenkins
literally, you are running krueger personified.
follow some links and learn something.
i do hate your altaslob tenacity to keep posting from a place of ignorance, your inability to back anything up with facts, and refusal to answer questions or engage in good faith debate.
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/means-m...r/saves-lives/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4965648/
do you even contribute in a single positive way here or is it just bs and trolling?
When gun owners start crying about being victims of hate and discrimination, they’re exhibiting delusional behavior and their guns should be taken away.
Yeah, how did those countries end up like that?Quote:
Originally Posted by leroy jenkins
Like, I’m not really a history buff, but I’ve read some.
Where are all these examples of stable democracies turning to oppressive fascism because the citizenry wasn’t armed sufficiently?
I’d suggest that WWII Germany, Italy, and Japan don’t fit there.
No easy solutions exist. But how about making all semi-auto weapon purchases subject to requirements of 1934 National Firearms Act? No bans, no fucking around trying to define an “assault weapon”, just stringent time consuming background checks and strict limitations on transfers.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcphee
Won’t do much for the existing inventory of firearms in public hands, but it seems like (anecdotal) most mass shooters own their AR just a few weeks before wreaking havoc. So I’m guessing the risk to society declines the longer someone owns an AR or 9mm semiauto.
Oh yeah, and nationwide red flag laws would be a good idea if you want to keep guns out of violent peoples hands.
And it probably stand zero chance of ever being enacted.
Having a discussion with Leroy and a few others in here is like having a discussion with a flat earther. Same mentality.
One can only hope the next generation that is and has been living thru this shit changes our path.
^^^Agreed. Why people respond- quoting him! - just baffles me
Yes. Fucking IGNORE leroy. And if you can't ignore him, put him on Ignore so he doesn't show up in the thread. It's USELESS.
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Hey, if the gun nuts are engaged in posting here, at least they aren’t actively engaging in gun violence elsewhere. Small mercies and all that.