Leather in the Sienna is coated. Only the faces are leather and if I recall it’s only the first and second rows.Quote:
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Leather in the Sienna is coated. Only the faces are leather and if I recall it’s only the first and second rows.Quote:
Originally Posted by bodywhomper;[emoji[emoji6[emoji640
^^ I think you are right. Well, gonna head up north in the morning to go get this 2019 Sienna SE AWD, hopefully it checks out as well in person as in pics. Anyone wanna meet in Plattsburgh tomorrow?
Do photo links work? Black on black AWD SE https://photos.app.goo.gl/Lgcqm4hKFKgYs1vZ6
Baller!
Thanx man. It drives great. When my wife asked what I thought of it while I was driving home, my response was 'so this is what a minivan is supposed to feel and ride like'. Now with 2 black cars I think that foam cannon I got is gonna see a bunch of use. This thing needs a serious clay bar session too. I'm guessing that with soooo much surface area that ought to take a while...
Pay more attention to the mechanicals than the exterior... Make sure all of the recommended intervals were followed and if you don't have proof, do it preemptively. Keep on top of that fucker. It's built to withstand being ridden hard and put away wet, but if you care for it proactively, it will be so much better.
Which dealer? Did they seem overall trustworthy?
Plattsburgh is only an hour away and I've used advertised prices from their dealers to shave a few dollars off some recent purchases at my local dealers. I'm not sure I'd want to buy a new car over there and have to go back for service. Dont tell my locals that part so i dont lose any leverage. However it expands the net for used cars maybe. I'm wary of getting a flood damaged car given the storm history lately so my choice of a reputable dealer matters.
Any VT folks deal with buying a NY car and registering it in VT? Hassle? Extra cost to account for in the equation?
Yeah I'm going to do the 100k service ASAP so I have a base going forward. It was Della Toyota and if the saleswoman I worked with is representative of the rest of the group I'd be happy to work with them again. I am still surprised at how easy it was to get them to give me a reasonable trade value on the POS. The fact that all of their fees only added up to $222 puts them ahead of just about every other dealer I have worked with. I also appreciated them correcting the issues found in the PPI.
Ok, I used a Della Subaru price from their web site to get my local dealer to knock some more money off the price of my latest Subaru. Plattsburgh is further than Burlington but closer than Barre, so it is close enough to not be an empty threat.
Congrats on the purchase GL. I think you will be happy with that one
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So, this is what a minivan is supposed to feel like huh? What a HUDGE difference from the Caravan/T&C and even over the Odyssey. Maybe the AWD changes the dynamics of the rear end that much? I dunno but what a pleasure on those long days on the road. The handling is surprisingly good for a minivan, I think the SE suspension mods compared to the other trims makes quite a difference.
Now that I have the first 1500 miles behind me I can definitely feel the rear shocks needing replacement, does anyone know if there's a sportier option than OE or the KYB Excel? Why is it that every vehicle I have had for the last ten years or so are so hard on sway links? This is no different, big surprise because they are mostly so light and flexy with small ball joints for the weight on the front end of most new vehicles. Mevotech has a new HD option with grease ports that look like they might be worth $20/pr more than the others so those are already incoming. I guess with 98k these things are expected so it is OK. Other than needing front pads and rotors which is also expected if the original owner was following the maintenance schedule the thing runs great and doesn't seem to need anything and it still gets the original MPG estimates, although I have no idea if the 60k tranny service was done so I might do it just because. That leads to an interesting situation, the dealer told me they couldn't give the info for the original owner but they accidentally left the registration and insurance card in the overhead compartment when they cleaned it out (poorly). I was thinking of writing a letter and sending it with this stuff so the person can dispose of it as they see fit since it has their name and address and asking if they are comfortable sending me some history details. Is that too weird?
It’s a little weird to contact the previous owner, but you’re doing them a pretty nice favor mailing that back to them. Years ago, somebody mailed me my drivers license that they found at a parking lot trailhead. I didn’t even know I’d lost it! It really made my day.
I felt like a super hero today
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In response to my pimped sienna thread drift in the mega jillions thread: https://youtu.be/3zIPAXePzhk?feature=shared
Just joined the ranks of new tech. Picked up a twenty one awd Sienna with twenty five thousand miles. Holy shit there’s a lot of tech going on! It took me a while when driving home last night to figure out how to turn off the lane departure. It’s all very exciting. We have 90 days of bliss before we have to start paying down the loan and start a life living on beans, squirrels, and miners lettuce.
We need to figure out if we want an extended warranty. I haven’t found many complaints/issues on these vans so far to drive me to consider an extended warranty, but maybe I’m not digging deep enough or looking in the wrong place?
Ours came with the stock fabric floor mats. I’ve always lived with aftermarket rubberized mats. The van will live outside in the dirt with fifty inches of precip a year. Anybody have suggestions of brand? W three brand? Tuxmat? I’d love a trunk mat that can expand to cover a folded down third row. Are there brands with folded trunk mats that serve that purpose well? I’m struggling to figure that out.
Traction control: on icy slick and steep roads, is it best to turn off the traction control or keep it on? How about loose and steep dirt roads? We might fork out the $$ now for the winter tires if I can find some on sale. Seventeen inch wheels. I have read that peeps caution away from Camry wheels because of vehicle weight.
We have had really good experience with Weathertech mats. Looks like they do a trunk mat for the Sienna as well as deep floor mats. Check them out.Quote:
Originally Posted by bodywhomper
We have these in the front of our Sienna. Would recommend.Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
I remember correctly the matching ones they offer for the middle and rear seats end up forcing you to put the middle seats in a fixed position - can not slide back and forth. We do not have those, still just the stock carpet mats.
We have weather tech brand in our older sienna. They have been good. I’ve also read the second and third rows weather tech for the new model sienna do not allow much movement of the second row. I’ve read there are other brands that allow for full range of movement of those seats. But I have no experience with those other brands.
Still curious about some kind of folding cargo/trunk mat.
Another Toyota Sienna hybrid minivan question: reliability. My thinking is not to get an extended warranty through the dealer. I have not seen much info about these things having issues, but maybe I am missing something. I know they’re still fairly new.
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So those front brakes on my Sienna that looked cooked were pretty bad. It's actually kind of amazing that they worked at all much less as well as they did! Other than a soft pedal it really wasn't that bad. Well, as they came apart they really came apart. Those anti-vibration things on the back of the pads had fallen off due to the rust under them, the hardware turned to dust as the pads fell out and the slider pins didn't slide at all. Amazing. So far the Power stop Extreme pads and RotoMax Industrial rotors feel pretty damn good.
New dream unlocked: Ford gets back into the minivan game with somethign like a Transit Connect body built on top of the Maverick chassis
I think it works: https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/com...4-door-pickup/
Could suddenly be the killer mountain town vehicle. AWD, middling but functional tow capacity, decent ground clearance even if they lower it a bit. Given the maverick was cheaper than the old Transit Connect despite having a far better drivetrain and suspension, you'd think they'd be able to box in the bed and add more seats without blowing up the price.
Would be cool. Seems like the sort of thing that'll be available everywhere except North America.Quote:
Originally Posted by singlesline
Seems similar to a Renault Kangoo.
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Already is. Ford sells their Transit Custom/ Tourneo mid sized van all over the world already. It's just a hair bigger than a Chevy Astro and is available in AWDQuote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
I just went on Ford’s website and the tourneo is not available with all wheel drive. (U.S.)
We ended up getting three-w liner mats for our twenty-one sienna. Fitment is great. Second row seat movement is unchanged. Cheaper than weather tech mats that I was looking at.Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong
yeah, you're right. I stand corrected. Maybe they had AWD in a previous midsized transit. I feel like I remember reading some long articles about the transit when they first brought the full size version to the US and them saying it came in fwd, AWD and RWD in Europe. Maybe I'm conflating it with something elseQuote:
Originally Posted by bodywhomper
The 130" wb full size (US) Transit is 9" longer then Toyota. AWD was offered in that 130" wb after 2020 but not passenger van. The 5 seater awd crew van was available along with the cargo. It's basically a minivan. AWD 130" crew is a unicorn unfortunately
What is the code to show YouTube link and plays within the forum? That button is still broken. Above link is history of a small van
This has been my longtime dream and for a while it looked like it might be possible. When Ford discontinued the current Transit Connect, they rebranded a VW in the EU and news reports said that they were going to make the new US version in their Hermosillo plant, where the Maverick (and Escape platform mate) are built. But then they couldn't even meet demand for existing models coming out of the plant, and it seems to have been nixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by singlesline
I own a Transit Connect and it's really hard to beat for gear lugging utility in a small package. I waited a long time on the reserve list for a Maverick hybrid, before passing as I decided the van body was more useful to me. But I do think Ford put a whole lot more thought into the details of the Maverick than into the passenger Transit Connect, so I was hoping we got similarly clever (even if cheap) touches for the new van. Like you say, a Transit Connect on the AWD hybrid Maverick platform would be a pretty much perfect outdoor gear vehicle.
^^^yer describing a Sienna. Which exists.
Just returned from a four hundred mile round trip excursion to retrieve a kid from college in our awd twenty-one hybrid sienna. I slept in the van at a local campground. A chunk of the drive was on 2-lane windy highways. I kept the 2nd row seats in place. I dug it. And the hypercritical college kid was into the passenger cockpit. The car has the higher end stock sound system, which sounded great to my worn out ears. The engine/transmission is fairly loud when pushing climbing steep grades, which is a known characteristic. Mid-30’s mpg on the way up and 32mpg on the way back, which included a bike on a roof rack. On the same drive, our o-six fwd sienna would get ~18-20mpg.
I’m concerned but faithful that the electronic tech that controls the e-awd, e-cvt, and hybrid system holds up.
Not quite. The hybrid Siennas are substantially longer (over a foot), while actually having less maximum cargo area with the seats folded. The Transit Connect has a super low load floor that's flush with the giant square rear door. The whole cargo/passenger area of the Transit Connect is basically a big square edged volume. The rear hatch of the Sienna is 36 inches high, while the Transit Connect's is 45 inches (the full height of the rear cargo area. That makes a big difference when loading gear. I roll my XL Ripmo into the back of the Transit Connect all the time. leaned up against one of the middle seats while the other and the back are folded. No chance with the Sienna save sliding it in on its side, just due to the rear hatch size.Quote:
Originally Posted by plugboots
I actually really like the Sienna's, looked at one as a potential Transit Connect replacement, and think they are much, much more refined passenger vehicles and likely better people haulers on road trips, while being more efficient. But they also feel notably longer while having less accessible cargo space. That matters a lot for a gear hauler.
Those transits are such junk dude. I can't imagine Ford figuring out a way to do them right. Better off just getting a regular transit in awd, even thought those are junk too.
The single biggest beef I have with minivans, other than the Transit Connect, is the hatch opening height. I need 4 feet! Having to pull mt bike front wheels is a pain in the ass, I wanna be able to just roll them in.
All told I am really liking this Sienna :) I am about to put it through a bunch of deferred maintenance because it is obvious that a few suspension bits are tired, drivetrain fluids have never been changed, coolant and spark plugs have over 100k so they are due too. I am trying to wear these tires out because I have a hard time appreciating mushy tires but I deal with it by driving slower :(
Just did a 4K mile national parks camp tour in the R. I really like the car. Just swapped out the pixelated cluster lcd and the tattered front center vent. Attachment 512082
That is why they should just throw a van body on the Maverick platform (and drop the ride height a bit…but let people use Maverick parts to bring it back up)Quote:
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Poop chute too tight.Quote:
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That's cuz I live in the NY suburbs :shrug:
Anybody have any intel on the Kia Carnival hybrid? We are considering maybe a 2026 in SX Prestige flavor with those sweet VIP captains chairs. I am of course anticipating abysmal resale and lackluster long term reliability, but its still top of the minivan heap for us.
Rented a new Honda Odyssey for the last week and while quite competent, the platform is feeling its age.
Also went to a couple Toyota dealerships and the Siennas are feeling REALLY antiquated compared to the Kia. I was by far the least impressed by them.
While I am sure it wont be without its issues, Kia has absolutely blown the competition away in regard to the interiors. Mainly wondering what first hand experiences have been like.
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