Grade is far to much.
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Grade is far to much.
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The point about the costs and actual number of congested days in the lcc are definitely worth bringing up.
Having to spend an hour in a gondi wouldn't exactly be ideal IMO. Driving to an area near the mouth of the LCC would be the best option. If the city wants to put in urban gondolas like La Paz or Caracas, that's more on them. I hadn't considered the possible side-effect of One Wasatch, and if a gondi like that got approval it'd be an optimal time for corporate to push for the connection.
The biggest issue that keeps popping up though is crowding, and the general impact on public lands in the lcc. No easy solution there. If the population growth projections are even remotely near the truth, then you guys simply need more ski hills down there.
I do like the point made about summer bike laps off such a lift system. Could be fucking sick.
There's also the issue of solving the disgusting pollution in a narrow canyon as it gets oversaturated with cars in the coming years. I'm sure the road bikers would also love uncrowded roads, and climbers at the bottom could breath easier.
Old news at this point after the bakeage we're now in, but S and SW high elevation skied great on 1/26, but lap 2 was already getting heavier than the first at around 1PM. Tons of wind transport to N and E facing slopes on the 26th as well.
First time in lcc.all season yeaterday. Grizzly lot was the biggest gong show Ive ever seen at 730 on a sunday and thats saying something. Busted out quick to get in front of the horde. WTF is up with the sign at TLP stating all ye who ski beyond here into twin lakes area have to have a soli pass. Right at the low spot in the pass. Dont believe Ive seen that before, but maybe ive never paid it mind any of the 100x Ive skied or skinned under it. TLP to Fants to EB. No pits dug plenty of handies. Snowpack is still super poo but maybe some healing facets? First lap in this hood this season. Rime crust fucked the early bird, should have hung with the crack of 10 crew and got it on the melt. Total skin failure fucked me worse and killed the plans of silver fork super tour and we beat it out bcc. Time to reglue some skins and count pennies for a targhee trip.
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This thread is in some serious need of some stoke! So here it is!
Did a lot of in-bounds and sidecountry around Alta Friday and Saturday that didn't disappoint, Catherines Pass and Sunset Peak were great, soft fresh turns all around.
Sunday ventured deep into BCC and found the goods! Definitely noticed the surface crust from the humidity on a majority of aspects. Ceiling was low, but keeping near the trees proved to be the right move with an absent crust in most places or barely existent in more exposed sections. Solid weekend!
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Great last two days! Despite the rime event, yesterday at Alta had us ripping down groomers and the few times we went off piste, the snow was surprisingly good. Also caught the baldy opener, which is nice, took awhile to open (opened around noon) so only got it once but it was fun!
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Mother superior called to us all day, so we decided to pay her a visit this morning. Also surprisingly good, dropped around 1030 and was treated to nice smooth cream cheese from top to bottom.
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No tours other than the walk to the top of Wildcat the night of the storm. It was a good week. Back to NY tomorrow. See y'all in the spring.
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My guess is that sign is there because Highway to Heaven down to the lake is now within Solitude's boundary? Or maybe it always was but the resort is now making it official. I got a Solitude pass for the first time in years and I've never seen that spot considered in-bounds before. But now it's an open gate and even on the trail map.
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They've always controlled access to TLP, but likely DV wanted to claim more "experience" on the map. As far as I understand, Highway to Heaven is still considered "Controlled Access Backcountry," not in-bounds, but I've only been up there one day this season so this is speculation. In previous seasons, you could still exit when it was "regular closed" by checking out with patrol but you could not re-enter without getting a talking to. I recall hearing about an Soli instructor who lived at Alta and would skin over for work in the morning. He did so once on a control morning, was greeted at the gate, escorted down to to get a pink slip and a trespassing ticket from Peaches.
Given that it's very clearly denoted as being inside the "resort boundary" I don't think solitude considers it backcountry.
WTF, I guess it is. Whelp I guess it's time to GTFO-UT
"Highway to Heaven
The Highway to Heaven area is located within the Solitude Mountain Resort boundary and is often mistaken for backcountry. The resort boundary includes terrain from the Highway to Heaven access gate all the way to Twin Lakes Pass. Skiing in this area requires hiking to get back to the lift-served portion of the resort."
Two days ago, Alta was held up doing heli bombing inside the resort boundary in the East Castle by three "tourers" thinking that the East Castle was out of bounds. Spendy delay for Alta.
Directly the reason for the late Main Chute opening, Brutah.
One needs to know resort boundaries and whether given terrain is open or closed.
It doesn't matter whether there is a signage if entering from adjacent side country. Ignorance is not license.
One may not, for example, hike up from American Fork or wherever and ski the Pipeline at Snowbird if said run is closed...signed or not.
Fines and punishment differ between Town of Alta and the County.
Catherine's was difficult to get on line this year because it was the best / only game in town this early season and people didn't want to quit touring within our ski area boundary and allow us to mitigate, set up, and open.
The summer road is often closed anymore because of dawn patrol stopping us from testing for and mitigating avalanches on Patsy Marly.
Not saying it makes any sense or serves a purpose for the Twin Lake pass boundary posting, just saying there is a lot of ignorance and lack of respect for ski area boundaries in this crowded mecca of skiing.
The Highway to Heaven terrain has been considered inbounds for the limited time I skied Solitude (since 2011). Just because you haven't been paying attention doesn't mean it's new.
I always thought of it as inbounds but rarely open as well. It makes sense since it basically comes all the way down to the Solitude Cross Country area below the Sol/Bright trail. I figured they had control of the area, but didn't want a bunch of dentist getting stranded back there. It require a hike out or a quick skier left to try and rejoin the sol/bright connector. I will say after skiing all these years though i dont remember that section being shown on earlier trail maps. Perhaps that is new.
Highway terrain is inbounds from the signs to the lake and has been for a long time. Reason for the signage is to help address recent backcountry users interfering with avalanche control.
New trail map this year to include highway terrain, backside of EGP (which is all inbounds although the wasatch backcoutnry skiing map says otherwise) and gates/bootpacks.
SSP is happy to answer any questions
solitude-twin lakes-wolverine cirque. granny's was firm and bony on the exit.
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not sure. thc or bombay?
Well that was about the best improvement in skiing done by a 1" storm possible, eh? Kinda funny that 1" makes us so grateful. You'd think it was a foot!
expected nothing and saw 4", met up with some friends who work at soli and headed out silver fork to west bowl. two laps, rode pretty well skiing the lower angle. untouched is still untouched, right?
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at the Bird the wind was transporting it to P-dog side, and Cirque was skiing very well. Cirque Traverse still too bony though, be careful
Have tomorrow off, thinking about early AM brighton then fish the creek later in the day. I imagine throwing dries to dinks will be more exciting then skiing meh.
In other news fuk you High Pressure!:cussing:
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Glass half full argument. Im in the empty camp. Maybe it is time to go to jackson or bridger/big sky for another escape to better conditions. Year of the Exodus FROM Zion.
Skied with the kids at PCMR today. Jupiter skied really well. The bumps were fun, groomers fast. Way better than I thought it would be.
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Going to LCC for a few days early next week. Should I bring the pseudo rock skis or the real deal, beat to shit rock skis?
Disagree. Unless you decide to scream across the High T with complete disregard bring the skis you ski best.
I'm finding it more hard to believe you have 26 days with this snow... 😀
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^Still more fun then most things! 32 for me.
I'd say pseudo rock skis are fine as well.
I'm sure it's better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick, but I can't bring myself to go yet. 60" base and 150" total on the season? Gosh that's depressing. Back to poking a stick in my eye.
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Meanwhile, back in the back country ...
I ascended and descended the South-facing slope below the saddle between Tuscarora and Wolverine then went up to the Wolverine summit and back. Didn't have time to take a run down Wolverine Bowl which was pretty much all tracked up anyway. The run back down from the saddle to the Catherine's Pass trail was worthwhile but not the greatest of snow -- lots of sun and wind damage but a few pockets of nice powder, actually, IMO, not too bad for a South-facing sloper. Also, there were only about 10-12 tracks on that fairly wide slope. The views from the summit of Mt. Wolverine were pretty great in spite of the overcast sky.
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One of my favorite summit spots in the Wasatch. Yeah I have hit rocks this year. Fixed my fair share of core shots - Thanks SFB! We all have skied better conditions in better snow years. But the reason to ski is to be free and have fun. Gotta say this year has delivered smiles.
Thanks for the stoke!!!!!!!