I was literally going to remount them the following day w/ the Pivots/CAST second ski kit I had gotten but a powder day won me over using the Shifts one last time.
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I was literally going to remount them the following day w/ the Pivots/CAST second ski kit I had gotten but a powder day won me over using the Shifts one last time.
So from what I'm reading there are different AFDs for GW vs. alpine soles. Does this mean if I want to ski my CASTed skis with both alpine soled resort boots and GW-soled touring boots I would need to swap AFDs? And for that matter, why is there even an alpine-only AFD if these are for touring?
Edit: Ah, answering my second question I see they do tech inserts conversions on alpine boots so that would be the reason for the alpine sole.
You might not have to swap. Didn’t look recently say GW afd’s will work with both alpine and gw soles? If you do need to swap, it’s a single screw per toe piece on cast.Quote:
Originally Posted by goolick
Also, you can buy alpine soles for a lot of hybrid boots if you want to risk your life in icy parking lots.
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From the Cast website:Quote:
Originally Posted by DigSki
GripWalk compatible AFDs will fit all boots with GripWalk soles. Due to the limited overlap between Alpine and GripWalk geometry, we chose to design these AFDS to create maximum energy transfer and more consistent function specifically for the GripWalk norm, as a result, they will not work with Alpine boots.
The other option would be to get GW soles for my inbounds boots if they're available. Install those and call it a day.
Yeah, you'll need to swap AFDs. But it takes 30 seconds.
Response from CAST support:
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If you are using the binding system with two different boot soles you will need to swap AFD's for what boot you want to use for the day. I have attached a link to our how to page. At the bottom there is a video on how to swap the AFD's. In my opinion it is very easy and takes me about 3 minutes to change a pair of AFD's. Let me know if you have any other questions?
https://casttouring.com/pages/how-the-freetour-works
Interesting. I figured they’d use the same exact geometry as look, but maybe not. Either way, it’s super easy to swap AFDs. I think the support guy is being generous saying 3 mins, it’s very fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by goolick
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Because GW sucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by goolick
QFTQuote:
Originally Posted by beeeom
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what's with the GW hate? I've never had any issues.
but for goolick asking - get two sets of CAST for two different skis. Mount one toe set with GW and the other with Alpine AFD's and you're set. just grab the ones you need for the day.
or yeah... much easier just to put GW soles on your alpine boots.
Was there ever any issue with the CAST system on a new mount or was the misaligned mainly around remounts? Or both? I'm grabbing a set to mount on some wildcats (I think, haven't decided on a ski yet). I'll most likely get the local shop to me (Skiers Sport Shop in Edmonton) to mount them as I am in fact, retarded.
Also going to need new boots lol. This fuckin forums makes me spend more money on shit I don't need than any other. Probably look at the new FT/K2 SC Diverge. Rereading this, holy fuck I'm a gaper.
Skiers is legit, I had two skis castified there, they did a good job, no issues with mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuntmonkey
I think the preferred verb should be cast-rated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stewy30
Anyone used crampons with those? I tried attaching a kingpin crampon (which supposedly has the same bar size as dynafit) and it's a bit wobbly in the mounting slot. Because CAST pin toe has no springy piece that indexes into a crampon bar's centering notch, the crampon moves side to side easily - I wonder if it can move too far sideways when side-hilling and get stuck...
Not field tested yet (mounted last month), but here's another data point ...Quote:
Originally Posted by duboix
My ATK crampons slide easily into my CAST toe, but they slide left/right freely when the angle is less than 90 degrees to the ski.
In contrast, when used with my ATK bindings, these crampons center/lock in place when the angle to the ski is less than 90 degrees.
... Thom
https://instagram.com/stories/castto...d=MDJmNzVkMjY=
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That’s dope. Super stoked to see that level of growth.
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Not on the gram. Anyone want to provide details?
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They bought a fancy new plastic injection molding machineQuote:
Originally Posted by altacoup
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Nng...w?usp=drivesdk
^ I added a centerline and a forward heel screw line to the CAST heel riser/brake retainer template to help locate these two holes accurately. You could also do this on the template they send with a ruler and pencil--that would still be more accurate than just trying to line the template up over existing holes. As always, confirm scale after printing and tips go to the left...
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I just push it in tight to the heel and mark it in place. Never had a problem this way started doing this when the provided (cast template) did me wrong.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...0c92647bd1.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by waveshello
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Same. Push it tight, lock the brakes up, and use a thin pointy object to mark the center of the holes. Then it's drill baby drill.Quote:
Originally Posted by SirVicSmasher
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It just occured to me that if you're gonna be anal about this like me, you could still mark your centerline on the ski and then finish it off SVS/gnar style--at least you'd have some confirmation you're centered up.
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Any input on Cast vs Shift for a primarily inbounds setup? Think 90/10 DD, 30-120min sidecountry laps. Half assed touring at best. I’m sick of Guardians, Daywreckers, and boot packing. I guess I’m getting old.
6’4” 185lbs, Lange XT3 boots, usually ski a 10 DIN. I’m not chasing the FWT or anything but I do ski like an inbounds skier; fast, bang off stuff, clank my skis together, do wheelies, spend a lot of time in the air, ski and land switch a fair bit. I’m basically considering Cast because I ski like an over-caffeinated beater moron instead of a video pro. Is that nuts?
If Cast used STH2 13 bindings I’d already have it. Pivots are good, they are just my second favorite binding (and heavy). I’m a Salomon guy through and through. I don’t think Shifts are burly enough to get beat up inbounds all day every day. Combined with being finicky with adjustments/release I’m pretty hesitant to give them a go on a DD.
My priority would be reliability, safety, and downhill skiing over weight (at least for this setup).
I ran shifts the first 3 years they came out — my ski log shows roughly 150 days on them. Over that time I had 2-3 pre-releases; one was in a very spicy funnel above a couloir… which resulted in me tumbling out the bottom, not fun!
Ultimately despite running them at 12, when I flexed into my boot on hard pack if my ski deflected I could feel the toe piece open up and my toe would move 5-10mm. This was very unnerving; especially in light of the pre-releases.
For me; I’m now on Casts, like you that ski is my DD and travel ski which sees 90% IB use. The reliability of being locked into an alpine clamp is worth it and I won’t be buying any more shifts.
200lbs - 6ft
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Cast is more in line with what you're describing. Imo shift has its place, but if your prioritizing reliability and downhill performance (and resort durability), cast wins hands down. Also might be worth considering the Duke PT.Quote:
Originally Posted by TexasGortex
Thanks for the input guys.
This may be a little silly but I have a long-standing grudge against Marker going back to probably the early 90s. I’ve just been burned too many times to seriously consider any of their products.
I agree with SkiLyft and Peaches. Based on your use case and brand preferences, CAST is the way. I've recently grown fond of a Marker product as a dedicated slack binding, but am also a vengeful motherfucker so can appreciate your perspective. I'm also still praying for a P14 CAST-light to come to market so I don't have to ski anything but Pivots. Maybe 90 days on Shift; never pre-released but have witnessed others (whose gear I also maintain), and, based on a previous pre-release (old Marker Demo) in a pretty unfortunate spot, as I'm sure SkiLyft can attest, I place a pretty high priority on that not happening now. 50 on CAST, 5 and counting on PT 12s. 6'2, 200#, DINS 11.
Add me to the list of people that had shifts, lost faith in them due to preleases/reliability, and abandoned them for CAST.
Same. Lost a ski for the winter after a prereleasing shift. Replaced with Pivots when I found the ski this summerQuote:
Originally Posted by goolick
Hard to believe people are still skiing shifts
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Saw a lot of CAST last year at the shop that didn't operate smoothly and I'm wondering how many others have seen this. People who butter tended to loosen/bend the screw towers on the toe and would cause issues with transitions. It seemed like it was the screw pulling on the wood. In many solid skis.
I would also see brand new sets mounted and everything seemed to transition properly but then you switched which ski you put the toe piece on and there wouldn't be enough clearance to slide the toe on. To me thats a manufacturing variance. On one pair, you could see the size difference in the parts.
In my mind, the Cascade Components alternative mounting plate solved these problems.
People who tend to butter lol. What about ppl who fknsndr? My one and only set of cast has outlasted 2 pair of skis and is now on its 3rd pair of skis. No fussing either. Mount em right the first time and beat the piss out em.
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Add me to the list of ditching shift for cast. I would shed skis with shifts in the middle of normal pow turns, and several times I didn't even know until I went to make my next turn. It got pretty ridiculous and scary tbh.
Cascade Components?Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenBC
Was that the CNC toe plate?
Did that ever go commercial?
Hahaha i know that feeling well. Ripping turns all stoked out, and go to make the next turn but realize your inside ski is no longer there. Try to hold on and finish that turn out. Look uphill like WTF, and see the ski way up there.Quote:
Originally Posted by DigSki
I also had a hilarious double eject out the front door just popping off a green groomer/cat track into some flat side pow at like 10 mph. As soon as i mindlessly landed went into an immediate front flip. I looked back and both skis where perfectly in place where i landed and a lady 'troller was laughing her ass off at me as she skied by.
And now im on the original CASTS for STHs. For 95/5 resort to touring, its a waaay better setup.
Cast setup ordered! Thanks for the input. I think part of my hesitation is that some weird custom mods should be jankier than Salomon’s premier binding. I can’t even tell you the number of times I’ve totally fucked myself by not choosing the simpler option!
I couldn’t find a retail link for the cascade plates. Seemed like they were still in development per the thread here. Hopefully I don’t need them; I don’t like flat bindings. I’m an upright boot + ramp and delta kind of guy.
The only issue I had with CAST was the initial mount/setup was finicky. First tour I thought the toe was locked but a ski came off a few times on the up, and I swore a whole bunch. Once I sorted it out I didn't have any issues. That's one nice thing about the Duke PTs, they are plug and play, and the design is pretty slick; can't speak to durability yet though. I haven't skied the 16 which in my mind is the CAST competitor, with the 12 competing with Shifts (unsurprisingly). Will hafta check out the CC mounting plate.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenBC
Edit to add: Clearly not a shop human, my vast CAST experience is 3 pair.
Pretty sure the Cascade plate never became available
It got flamed in here for no reason in particular, but the owner didn't respond well. Imo it was the most elegant cast-like solution, even though the hole patterns were no longer the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by pfluffenmeister