Hjortleifson has been heard, the DynaFit Vulcan

So my Vulcans arrived this week after trying a friend's Mercury's last winter but feeling like I wanted a bit more boot. €580 right now at yellowsportshop.com by the way Euro guys. Initial impressions at home, with my old Virus Intuition liners (pretty much a Pro Tour): fantastic fit and flex.

I've got a spare set of 3-layer Booster straps I might as well throw on these. I've used Boosters on my alpine boots for over 10 years, always under the shell overlap which works wonders for my skinnier-than-thou legs. Has anyone run Boosters this way on a Vulcan/Mercury? It could go under the overlaps but over the removable tongue, or under the removable tongue but over the rubbery part. On my alpine boots I dremel out notches at 3 and 9 o'clock of the cuffs to allow this, but I might just attach them 10mm higher than the standard strap to avoid having to cut the expensive carbon cuff!

^^^ try them first without booster straps. i got addicted to the quick transition aspect of not even bothering with the straps. The upper cuff is so stiff i wonder just how much the boosters even add

lee, have you skied the new tlt6? thoughts vs. vulcan?

curious specifically how much lower the cuff is...

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Originally Posted by marshalolson

lee, have you skied the new tlt6? thoughts vs. vulcan?

curious specifically how much lower the cuff is...

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Going to be this season coming up. Too much gear last year

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Originally Posted by Jim S

BTW, I found the Mercury to run small: I went up a size. Not sure if this holds true for the Vulcan.

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Anyone else find this with either the Mercury or the Vulcan?

Sized down but was probably in a too big boot before. Needed work done on toes to make comfortable.

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Originally Posted by shafty85

Anyone else find this with either the Mercury or the Vulcan?

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I don't own either but did demo the Vulcan in February. I had to go up a size from my usual.

I'll ask here as this seems to be the right thread.

Tried on some Mercury's last year, 26,5 felt perfect in length and the forefoot, but from the mid to the heel it was ultra tight. Any of the other dyna boots in the family that are lasted differently?

Looking for a dedicated touring boot, but not willing to give up much on the downhill, will be skiing agent 130 inbounds.

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Originally Posted by shafty85

Anyone else find this with either the Mercury or the Vulcan?

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My Vulcans are the same size as my alpine boots (which fit pretty tight themselves); the Vulcans shell-check slightly smaller but feel fine to wear. One friend of mine who wears his alpine boots a little big has Mercurys in the same size. Another (ex-bootfitter) whose alpine boots fit tight went up a size for his Mercuries and was surprised I didn't do the same. So, try them on.

I have tight alpine boots and wear the same size in my Mercuries. Fit through the mid foot is personal, but plenty of toe space in the shell. The stock liners will throw you off though. They are much more narrow lasted than the shell in the forefoot.

My Vulcans arrived on Monday, I slipped my Intuition Pro Tours that had been molded for my Factors and the Vulcans feel awesome! Can't wait for the snow to start falling..

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Originally Posted by CG

My Vulcans arrived on Monday, I slipped my Intuition Pro Tours that had been molded for my Factors and the Vulcans feel awesome! Can't wait for the snow to start falling..

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You fit the same size as your alpine boots?

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Originally Posted by shafty85

You fit the same size as your alpine boots?

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My alpine boots and Factors are 29's. I could have gone 29 or 30 in the Vulcans by the shell fit. I'm pretty sure I'll need the toe boxs on the 29's blowen out a touch. I would have been swiming in a 30 though.

Can anyone compare the durability of the Mercury to the RS?

Also, what ever happened regarding the discoloration of the Mercury plastic? Did anyone ever find out what was causing it or anything like that?

My alpine boots are 28.5 kr2 pros that have been worked over heavily. My vulcans are 29 and feel good so far stock.

I am using the same size 24 in 4 buckle dallbello alpine & the mercury

lots of toe room while still having a good snug fit thru the fest of the boot

Damn, I got a set of Powerwraps yesterday and molded them for the Vulcans today. These are some stiff touring boots. I can't wait to ski on my 192's with these, the titans weren't enough to really push the big bros in variable conditions. I think these will be.

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Originally Posted by Chugachjed

Damn, I got a set of Powerwraps yesterday and molded them for the Vulcans today. These are some stiff touring boots. I can't wait to ski on my 192's with these, the titans weren't enough to really push the big bros in variable conditions. I think these will be.

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I'm also in the KR2s - curious to hear how the Vulcans ski stiffness and response wise comparatively once we get into winter... Like the powerwrap Vulcans combo move

I can't imagine Powerwraps in Vulcans. The Vulcans were so damn stiff I have Pro-Tours in them for the chest-deep pow days and Luxuries for the ankle-deep pow days/

Well Lee, you don't weigh 240 pounds. I'm afraid the lower shell is going to crack on a real cold day with the way it flattens when I flex into the boots.

Point taken

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Originally Posted by Chugachjed

Well Lee, you don't weigh 240 pounds. I'm afraid the lower shell is going to crack on a real cold day with the way it flattens when I flex into the boots.

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Originally Posted by Driver

I'm also in the KR2s - curious to hear how the Vulcans ski stiffness and response wise comparatively once we get into winter... Like the powerwrap Vulcans combo move

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The PW / Vulcan combo is awesome. Never need to remotely consider tongue or power strap, and they break in nicely giving more and more ROM over time.

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Originally Posted by LeeLau

I have Pro-Tours in them for the chest-deep pow days and Luxuries for the ankle-deep pow days/

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A quiver of liners?

MAKE IT STOP!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by PNWbrit

A quiver of liners?

MAKE IT STOP!!!!!!!

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Accommodates toenails at different points of fungal growth. Pics needed?

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Originally Posted by PNWbrit

A quiver of liners?

MAKE IT STOP!!!!!!!

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What about touring on day two when my feet are too swollen to fit properly in my liners? I need a lower volume option. (This actually happened.)

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Originally Posted by Dromond

What about touring on day two when my feet are too swollen to fit properly in my liners? I need a lower volume option. (This actually happened.)

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Sounds like you just need one pair that fit properly ;-)

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Originally Posted by LeeLau

I can't imagine Powerwraps in Vulcans. The Vulcans were so damn stiff I have Pro-Tours in them for the chest-deep pow days and Luxuries for the ankle-deep pow days/

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You all are making the Vulcans sound like my old Lange plug 130s (which flex closer to today's 150s). That makes me excited. If they are even as stiff as my KR2 pros I will happily add to the quiver.

Just got my Vulcans. Damn. They are a bit difficult to get on and off with the lace liners and various flaps, but otherwise... wow. Stiff as my 130 RD Head Raptors and as light or lighter than basically all touring boots I've ever owned. So stoked.

I foresee on big vertical days leaving the tongues at home, particularly when skiing the skinny sticks. I also foresee my alpine boots and skis seeing much less time underfoot. STOKED!

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Originally Posted by Driver

You all are making the Vulcans sound like my old Lange plug 130s (which flex closer to today's 150s). That makes me excited. If they are even as stiff as my KR2 pros I will happily add to the quiver.

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At room temp vulcans with powerwraps are stiffer than kr2 pros with stiff tongues and stiffeners. Without tongues they're as stiff or stiffer than kr2 pros with the softer tongue.


This is with no booster strap on the vulcans BTW. They're that stiff.

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Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier

Just got my Vulcans. Damn. They are a bit difficult to get on and off with the lace liners and various flaps, but otherwise... wow. Stiff as my 130 RD Head Raptors and as light or lighter than basically all touring boots I've ever owned. So stoked.

I foresee on big vertical days leaving the tongues at home, particularly when skiing the skinny sticks. I also foresee my alpine boots and skis seeing much less time underfoot. STOKED!

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Get rid of the laces = they're a pain in the ass and interfere with the flaps. You get used to the flaps pretty easily though. I usually do them up once and leave them in place for later.

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Originally Posted by Chugachjed

At room temp vulcans with powerwraps are stiffer than kr2 pros with stiff tongues and stiffeners. Without tongues they're as stiff or stiffer than kr2 pros with the softer tongue.


This is with no booster strap on the vulcans BTW. They're that stiff.

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Stoke... What about forward lean vs the KR2 (w the max forward lean chip in the KR2)?

Can't wait to wear my Vulcans on snow. The living room is a poor substitute.

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Originally Posted by LeeLau

Get rid of the laces = they're a pain in the ass and interfere with the flaps. You get used to the flaps pretty easily though. I usually do them up once and leave them in place for later.

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Agreed, though before tossing the laces, do a tour and make sure the tongue of the liner won't float its way into annoying places (insert comedy here: ). Had that happen a couple times and it sucked.

Stiffer than the KR2 would be mas bueno. It would also make probably the the stiffest non race shell alpine or not

I tried on Vulcans for the first time today. Last season I tried Mercuries, but there were no Vulcans available in my size. So in trying them side by side, I would agree that the flex difference is not huge, but I liked the stiffer flex of the Vulcan. Surprisingly, I found that the Vulcan had a looser, more harsh fit feel to it. I tried several pair of each of the Vulcan and Mercury and each time the fit was consistent. The Mercury fit a bit snugger all around from the toe box, over the arch, across the fore foot and the heel as well as around the calf. I looked at the liners side by side and they appeared identical except for the name on them. The store clerk figured it was a shell difference, but upon closer examination I could feel that the foam of the Mercury liners was slightly thicker all around. I tried the Mercury liners in the Vulcans and found they fit my like the Mercuries with the same comfortable snug fit. The Mercury liners in the Vulcan felt like they helped make the flex a bit more progressive as I was pushing into a bit more padding on the tongues as well. Anyone else noticed this difference? Why on earth would Dynafit do that? I would be inclined to opt for the Mercury instead of the Vulcan for this reason alone, or put an Intuition into the Vulcan, which would turn it into a 1200 dollar boot! I was not completely sold on the infinite possibilities of getting the buckles or cable or tongues overlapped or crossed the wrong way nor the way the top buckle was hard to disengage from walk mode or the removable tongue for touring scenario which would increase transition times, but could live with that if I could get a good fit. For comparison, I also tried and was reasonably impressed with the Maestrale RS which had a good fit, but was slightly softer than the Merc. I didn't like the side hinged tongue though. The boot which really impressed me was the TLT 6 performance. It was super light, with a great fit and stiffness somewhere between the Merc and the Vulcan, the fit being better for me than any of the others.

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Originally Posted by Wetdog

The boot which really impressed me was the TLT 6 performance. It was super light, with a great fit and stiffness somewhere between the Merc and the Vulcan, the fit being better for me than any of the others.

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The TLT6 is stiffer than the Merc? Huh. Interesting.

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Originally Posted by shafty85

The TLT6 is stiffer than the Merc? Huh. Interesting.

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The TLT 6 performance with the carbon cuff similar to that of the Vulcan is what I had on. I didn't try the TLT 6 Mountain.

I visually recognise the two boots, but in writing I am constantly getting the Vulcan and Mercury mixed up. Can everyone just say "the green one" and "the white one" from now on. Or "Hoji's boot" and "the white one". Please.

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Originally Posted by Wetdog

Maestrale ... I didn't like the side hinged tongue though.

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You will in a snow cave :)

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Originally Posted by Wetdog

I tried on Vulcans for the first time today. Last season I tried Mercuries, but there were no Vulcans available in my size. So in trying them side by side, I would agree that the flex difference is not huge, but I liked the stiffer flex of the Vulcan. Surprisingly, I found that the Vulcan had a looser, more harsh fit feel to it. I tried several pair of each of the Vulcan and Mercury and each time the fit was consistent. The Mercury fit a bit snugger all around from the toe box, over the arch, across the fore foot and the heel as well as around the calf. I looked at the liners side by side and they appeared identical except for the name on them. The store clerk figured it was a shell difference, but upon closer examination I could feel that the foam of the Mercury liners was slightly thicker all around. I tried the Mercury liners in the Vulcans and found they fit my like the Mercuries with the same comfortable snug fit. The Mercury liners in the Vulcan felt like they helped make the flex a bit more progressive as I was pushing into a bit more padding on the tongues as well. Anyone else noticed this difference? Why on earth would Dynafit do that? I would be inclined to opt for the Mercury instead of the Titan for this reason alone, or put an Intuition into the Vulcan, which would turn it into a 1200 dollar boot! I was not completely sold on the infinite possibilities of getting the buckles or cable or tongues overlapped or crossed the wrong way nor the way the top buckle was hard to disengage from walk mode or the removable tongue for touring scenario which would increase transition times, but could live with that if I could get a good fit. For comparison, I also tried and was reasonably impressed with the Maestrale RS which had a good fit, but was slightly softer than the Merc. I didn't like the side hinged tongue though. The boot which really impressed me was the TLT 6 performance. It was super light, with a great fit and stiffness somewhere between the Merc and the Vulcan, the fit being better for me than any of the others.

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Hmm, I could only try on the Mercury, and I was a 28, got the Vulcan in a 28, and it was too big. So now I got the 27 and I have some work to do. My boot fitter is going to be shaking his head at me and saying, "you know you aren't a racer anymore". Pretty much need some grinding / stretching sideways near the ball of my foot and all along the outer side from just in front of the ankle to my pinky toe.

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Originally Posted by Wetdog

Why on earth would Dynafit do that? I would be inclined to opt for the Mercury instead of the Titan for this reason alone, or put an Intuition into the Vulcan, which would turn it into a 1200 dollar boot!

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I been asking that since I bought the mercury's and tossed the liners cuz the boot won't fit me with the stock liner

Yeah the stock liner fits some people but IME/IMO you are just buying the shell when you buy a Vulcan or mercury, I would say try the boot on with an old set of intuition liners to see if it will work for you