Breaking Bad

Ozymandias, by Shelley

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: "Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
`My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away".

Nice.

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Originally Posted by neufox47

Ok, they are forgiven for the end of the last episode, but I agree with the poster who said they just should have shown the first shot being fired. So Walt gets a machine gun, goes after the nazis, gets killed in the process. Will Marie forgive her sister now?

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He waits ~1 year. Until he's 52 at the diner.

Marie is only one left deserving of that ricin - unless he has a special hatred for uncle jack now

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Originally Posted by NoPostholio

Marie is only one left deserving of that ricin - unless he has a special hatred for uncle jack now

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A case may be made for Walt Jr.

Intense, but wondering when Walt's iq dropped 40 pts. Handcuffed and on top of your buried 80mil, perhaps offering it to the Aryan brotherhood not the play?
And the family knife fight was just hard to watch.

Time to cook! (Matt Damon's ugly brother is awesome)

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Originally Posted by MMP

A case may be made for Walt Jr.

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Agreed...

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Originally Posted by NoPostholio

Marie is only one left deserving of that ricin - unless he has a special hatred for uncle jack now

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I'm still holding out for a big role for Marie in the next episode.

Anybody betting Jesse blows up the cook or does some chemistry trick he learned from Walt so he can escape from Todd?

anybody else think that phone call with skylar at the end was a bit too brash and cliche-psycho-abusive-husband to be real? Seemed like he knew the cops would be there and incriminated himself as much as possible in an attempt to absolve skylar. Something seemed to click with him for a split second when he saw junior and skylar cowering on the floor.
I don't think he's going to get killed in the end, it's been much too dark lately for it to end that easy for him. I bet he either watches something awful happen to his family and has to live with it, or he wastes away in a hospital with no flowers or cards on the bedside table.

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Originally Posted by powder fiend

anybody else think that phone call with skylar at the end was a bit too brash and cliche-psycho-abusive-husband to be real? Seemed like he knew the cops would be there and incriminated himself as much as possible in an attempt to absolve skylar.

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Yeah, Walt was trying to paint Skylar as the unwilling accomplice who feared for her life.

Walt's still the family man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3dpghfRBHE

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Originally Posted by Skistack

Yeah, Walt was trying to paint Skylar as the unwilling accomplice who feared for her life.

Walt's still the family man.

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Ha! I didn't think of it that way. All along he's still trying to take care of her. Wonder if she recognized it?

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Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3dpghfRBHE

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THAT



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AWESOME!!!

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Originally Posted by TheDon

Ha! I didn't think of it that way. All along he's still trying to take care of her. Wonder if she recognized it?

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missed that too , it seemed that he had becomed unglued but he still had the family thing to Hank, but when I think back to Skylar face during call maybe it clicked with her that it was a script and she was getting Holly back ASAP. Interesting.

I think it's pretty clear that the "mama" scene with Holly is what turned Heisenberg back to Walt and he remembered that his original goal was to protect his family. The call to Skylar was totally to protect her, he knew the call was tapped and it was killing him to have to do it (hence his silent sobs in the pauses) but it was the only way to try to spare her now that he was going to take the fall for two dead DEA agents. From Skylar's expression, I'm pretty sure she realized what he was doing. I think this episode was Walt's Darth Vader-style last minute change of heart; he finally realized that his run as king is done and that all he has left is to try to protect his family from the fallout. My guess is that same realization is what will cause him to head back and try to get Jesse out of his meth prison with the ricin and the M60 in the next two episodes.

Other predictions:
- Lydia's got to get her due. This show always punishes hubris, and she's got it in spades.
- Same for Todd and Jack; some of the other Nazis might survive but not them. Makes sense that Jesse will do Todd in with a lab explosion, since he's Walt's understudy and that's how Walt did their very first kill.
- I don't see Walt going out by a bullet. The cancer's what started this, the cancer is what's going to end it. Gilligan likes thematic symmetry too much not to (see: opening flashback in this episode back to the beginning of the series).

Oh, and Todd's mumbled "Sorry for your loss" in the desert - after helping with the shootout that killed Hank and Gomie - was the best line of the episode. Dude has polite/creepy absolutely nailed.

Todd is the most interesting character left. Total psychopath.

I'm a little surprised that the Nazis are still interested in the meth operation despite their recent acquisition of 70 million dollars. But I guess they kind of took care of that with the greed remark that Uncle Jack made to Walt.

I also loved the symbolism of Hank getting buried in the same hole where Walt hid is money, meaning Walt's meth empire literally and figuratively "dug Hank's grave" so to speak.

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Originally Posted by Pegleg

Other predictions:
- Lydia's got to get her due. This show always punishes hubris, and she's got it in spades.
- Same for Todd and Jack; some of the other Nazis might survive but not them. Makes sense that Jesse will do Todd in with a lab explosion, since he's Walt's understudy and that's how Walt did their very first kill.
- I don't see Walt going out by a bullet. The cancer's what started this, the cancer is what's going to end it. Gilligan likes thematic symmetry too much not to (see: opening flashback in this episode back to the beginning of the series).

Oh, and Todd's mumbled "Sorry for your loss" in the desert - after helping with the shootout that killed Hank and Gomie - was the best line of the episode. Dude has polite/creepy absolutely nailed.

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I think you're spot on with almost everything in your analysis and predictions except for Todd/Jesse. Did anyone else find it weird that in the aftermath of the gunfight Jack is like "Where's Jesse?", and wasn't Todd's reply "Oh I think he went down the wash"? He was under the car the whole freaking time. I think Todd was trying to protect Jesse because they have a history - so no lab explosion death for Todd. I have no predictions beyond that.

edit: Or maybe Todd really does just want to have a cook slave.

Dontcha remember? Todd is lusting after Lydia, and he may be thinking that, if he cooks up the good blue stuff, she'll suck his dick. The last time we saw them together, she challenged him to perfect the product, looking deep in his psychotic eyes. Maybe the other Nazis could care less at this point. He's doing this for love.

Lydia def has to end badly. Didnt she dodge a bullet from Mike twice and WWs ricin once. Agreed that her hubris is gonna cost her. She might shield Todd when Walt has his "say hello to my little friend" moment.

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Originally Posted by Benny Profane

Dontcha remember? Todd is lusting after Lydia, and he may be thinking that, if he cooks up the good blue stuff, she'll suck his dick. The last time we saw them together, she challenged him to perfect the product, looking deep in his psychotic eyes. Maybe the other Nazis could care less at this point. He's doing this for love.

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Agree with this. BB doesn't generally include scenes that aren't important for some reason, especially in these last episodes, so Todd's creepy infatuation with Lydia is going to come up one way or another. Makes sense that that's his motivation for wanting to continue cooking. Lydia is both scared shitless and an opportunist, so it wouldn't surprise me if she ends up hitching her wagon to Todd when she realizes she can use his puppy love to protect her (though I'd guess that will end badly).

Yeah, that little fling will not end in a nice little cottage in suburbia with a white picket fence.

My guess is the the machine gun is for the Nazi's and the ricin is for Lydia. Walt frees Jesse and they each go their own way. The last scenes are of Walt dying of cancer alone and a UPS package containing the rest of Walt's money being delivered to Skylar.

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Originally Posted by Skistack

My guess is the the machine gun is for the Nazi's and the ricin is for Lydia. Walt frees Jesse and they each go their own way. The last scenes are of Walt dying of cancer alone and a UPS package containing the rest of Walt's money being delivered to Skylar.

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That's along the lines of what I've been thinking. Though, I'm not sure Walt won't want to kill Jesse, and I feel pretty certain - particularly after learning about Jane - that Jesse won't just walk away. I think Walt will die by Jesse's hand.

Walt's house ends up abandoned with Heisenberg written all over it, this can only have been Uncle Jack. As they parted ways "square" and with Jack taking Walt's money, the only conclusion is that he wants Walt to cook.
So, Jesse dies in the next episode, possibly suicide. Jack/Todd/Lydia kidnap Skylar and kids to draw Walt out of hiding. Walt goes after them with the gun and ricin (for Lydia).
I would expect Walt lives, but without money or his family. Although he could reunite with them, given his "sacrifice" to protect them.
Marie is the wildcard. She hates Walt and has nothing more to loose.

There is no way Walt is saving Jesse. Jesse is the one who flaked out and got swept up by Hank in his illegal kidnapping and interrogation program. This led the loss of his cash, death of Hank and the end of the family resulting in him living on the run with his barrel of cash alone. He probably came across someone with the blue meth and realized Jesse was still alive and is going to take him out.

Heh. That barrel of cash. Absurd.

Last two episodes will be 75 minutes, commercial free. Yowser!

Boioioioing

150 more minutes!! We are in the bonus round

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Originally Posted by Pegleg

I think it's pretty clear that the "mama" scene with Holly is what turned Heisenberg back to Walt .

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Great scene and apparently that kid is fantastic at improvisational acting.

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Originally Posted by hollywoodreporter.com

Among the most "electric" moments on set came after Walt (Bryan Cranston) abducted baby Holly, and the infant started calling for her mother. The scene originally called for Walt to bring the baby up to eye level and have a change of heart as he looked into her eyes. But on set, the baby's mother was standing behind Cranston as they shot, and the infant locked eyes with her.
"She started saying the word 'mama' over and over," Johnson says. "Bryan used it and played it perfectly. Obviously the baby was brilliant, but the credit goes to Bryan for using that and playing off of it so well. That's the sort of thing you can never plan, and you have to go with it when it happens."

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^^That's incredible. As if the show wasn't good enough already.

Also, we're looking at 75 minutes including commercials, according to this article:

http://tvline.com/2013/09/18/breakin...le-75-minutes/

Jesus, I can't wait till Monday (I don't have cable so I watch it the day after it airs on Amazon Prime). Might have to find somewhere to watch the finale in real time, since I can't see avoiding it in the media all day after it airs.

Was it season 4 promo, machine gun in the background, end of days?

http://deskpoper.com/images/2012/10/...wallpapers.jpg

Didn't Jesse ask Walt why he doesn't want to quit when he had 10 million dollars at the end of season 2 or something like that? I seem to remember that he had 10 million dollars and didn't want to quit at some point. Now after everything is said and done he ends up with 10 million dollars kind of ironic. Pretty amazing last season that's for sure.

I sure wish wall Junior would die but I have a feeling he's one of the only ones that isn't going to.

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Shit, couchtuner.eu is down. Anyone got a good streaming site?

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Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn

Shit, couchtuner.eu is down. Anyone got a good streaming site?

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http://www.free-tv-video-online.me/i.../season_5.html
lot's of popups, but it works.

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Originally Posted by doughboyshredder

I sure wish wall Junior would die but I have a feeling he's one of the only ones that isn't going to.

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Why??? I'm no cripple sympathizer but why would you want him to die? Except for getting all teary-eyed all the time he doesn't really do anything of substance in the show. The worst thing he's done all series is try and buy a six pack.

It's back up! Internal problems.

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Originally Posted by powder fiend

Why??? I'm no cripple sympathizer but why would you want him to die? Except for getting all teary-eyed all the time he doesn't really do anything of substance in the show. The worst thing he's done all series is try and buy a six pack.

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He is just such a whiner. I have been hoping for the last few seasons that he would OD on walt's meth. That would have been awesome.

Hey - the kid has to go - end of story

He is straight up ratto. Called the cops yo! When you are legit crime boss you have to live by the rule of the jungle.

Tony Soprano, Stringer Bell, Al Swearagen would all take jr down w/o a second thought.

If he wants to be remembered as a true leader in the field he knows what he has to do...

If you haven't already, watch all or at least middle third of season 4 - there were so many threads to pull on that I personally never saw the first time. This show is pure genius. Fuck it, the kid can live.