Praxis Protest..just how cool is it?

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Originally Posted by Bandit Man

Super light and dry powder from 8-15" on a rain crust. The width of the ski was brutal on my aging body when I would hit bottom. They wanted to run and I didn't have room for them to do so. I swapped to my 189 Asym BG's after five runs and I was just dialed. I think the 192 is still too big of a ski for where I ski (Stevens Pass) and how I ski (trees, mini-golf lines, etc.). I bet I would feel differently about the Protests at a place like Mammoth or Snowbird where they can take advantage of room to run. Solid skis for the right skier...I just find that the BG's and me style pair up well.

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Gotcha. I just absolutely love the ProTest shape for how frictionless it is in those conditions. It does want to go fast yet has an innate ability to shut down and wiggle through areas, so quick at slashing turns or happy not turning. I loved my 188’s at Stevens. Can’t wait to get my 192’s mounted and ride them. You may pair better with the 187.
Sounds like the BG fits you well as you have plenty of days on them. They’ll sell fairly quickly I bet.

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Originally Posted by 2FUNKY

Gotcha. I just absolutely love the ProTest shape for how frictionless it is in those conditions. It does want to go fast yet has an innate ability to shut down and wiggle through areas, so quick at slashing turns or happy not turning. I loved my 188’s at Stevens. Can’t wait to get my 192’s mounted and ride them. You may pair better with the 187.
Sounds like the BG fits you well as you have plenty of days on them. They’ll sell fairly quickly I bet.

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They did feel frictionless...I agree 100% there. I do feel like the 187 was an easier ski for me and more enjoyable, but again, I like the BG's more for conditions and location. There is just no better ski for me on a deep day when picking my way through Upper Wild Katz trees and then letting them run towards the lower half where it opens up a bit more. Glad to hear that you like your 188's. Reminds me that there are lots of different tastes of gear out there.

So, now that Aever-Vail-Guese is gone, are the VeneerTests as cool as they once were?

Tabke was rocking his ProTests today at Alpental.

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Originally Posted by nickel

I ski trees much tighter than those open fields with a few trees in them. They are nimble for sure. I find they shine pretty hard when there's a zipper or wind crust too. So hook-free.

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This... I ski the Juan’s and my Protests happily cut and slash tight trees easily, although I will say they pick up speed in a hurry so when it gets tight it’s pretty easy to be going really fast really fast

I do find the quickness comment interesting. I’d peg my 192 Protests as easier to pivot in CO trees than my brothers 186 goats and I’m not a big guy. That’s kind of the point of the psuedo reverse reverse design.

I do understand the bosy impact thing though, my old powderboards were awesome but hardpack and hard chop could be brutal on my legs

I would really like to try out some new C&D’s and compare them to my Protests. If anyone in the Tahoe area has a pair and wants to swap for a few runs

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Originally Posted by Muggydude

I’d peg my 192 Protests as easier to pivot in CO trees than 186 goats.

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I agree. I thought my 192s were stoopid easy to pivot.

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Originally Posted by eskido

This... I ski the Juan’s and my Protests happily cut and slash tight trees easily, although I will say they pick up speed in a hurry so when it gets tight it’s pretty easy to be going really fast really fast

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That acceleration is one of the things that make the ProTest so damn fun to ski.

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Originally Posted by Kopi_Red

That acceleration is one of the things that make the ProTest so damn fun to ski.

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Absofuckinlutely! Just mentioned it as it might be a reason people may think they’re a little much in tight stuff before they really get a feel for how easy they are to slice n dice

The acceleration is wild. So going along in pow then it planes up and I’m headed for trees. Think this is going to get interesting and then think and it goes and I’m around the trees. Very intuitive and really quick. I have 186 BG and 189 BG and they are quick but protest is like OG renegade quick. Makes you just go fast.

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Originally Posted by Kopi_Red

I agree. I thought my 192s were stoopid easy to pivot.



That acceleration is one of the things that make the ProTest so damn fun to ski.

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Yup. Why I dumped my 191 BG. ProTest is quicker, doesn’t plow, frictionless in pow and loves to accelerate through and out of the turn. So easy to pivot in trees and kills it in funky heavy crusted snow. Skis it likes its pow. Shuts down without effort. Point and shoot.

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Originally Posted by 2FUNKY

Yup. Why I dumped my 191 BG. ProTest is quicker, doesn’t plow, frictionless in pow and loves to accelerate through and out of the turn. So easy to pivot in trees and kills it in funky heavy crusted snow. Skis it likes its pow. Shuts down without effort. Point and shoot.

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What is funny is that I would say the same thing about the BG’s. That being said, I think the Protest speed is what I have been fighting. I feel like they want to go a lot faster than I am comfortable with in the tight terrain. I’m sure it’s more of a “user” issue but also probably why they don’t seem like the right fit for me. I do feel like the 187 is a lot more manageable for me in tight terrain.

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Originally Posted by Bandit Man

What is funny is that I would say the same thing about the BG’s. That being said, I think the Protest speed is what I have been fighting. I feel like they want to go a lot faster than I am comfortable with in the tight terrain. I’m sure it’s more of a “user” issue but also probably why they don’t seem like the right fit for me. I do feel like the 187 is a lot more manageable for me in right terrain.

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So how much do you want for those bubingas?

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Originally Posted by Bandit Man

What is funny is that I would say the same thing about the BG’s. That being said, I think the Protest speed is what I have been fighting. I feel like they want to go a lot faster than I am comfortable with in the tight terrain. I’m sure it’s more of a “user” issue but also probably why they don’t seem like the right fit for me. I do feel like the 187 is a lot more manageable for me in tight terrain.

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That wasn’t directed at you man. It was just a general ProTest statement.

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Originally Posted by Norseman

So how much do you want for those bubingas?

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Atta boy!

Whatever you guys do, please mount for IONs or Wardens at 306. Thanks

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Originally Posted by 2FUNKY

That wasn’t directed at you man. It was just a general ProTest statement.

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No worries...I didn't take it that way.

I post up my findings on skis, even when they don't work for me, because I want to see what I might be doing wrong/different. The banter about how fast they are really resonated with me. They are super quick and super fast, but NOT in a way that works for me/I am comfortable with. I'm 45-yo, have a screwed up knee that is only getting fixed with a TKR (someday) and just want to keep having good pow days with my kids. BG's help me feel young and fast (for an middle-aged guy) while Protests make me feel my age. I'm just not as core as I used to be, I guess. :)

I found my OG Protests to be incredibly nimble, and I'm a 49-yo shitty skier. :D That said, the old 188s measured about 186 straight-pull. I ordered new 192s but really should have ordered 187s, which would be plenty for me. They're now measuring damn near to length. That's really why I'm thinking about flipping my big reds.

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Repost from the Praxis thread

196 Protest
Flex 4
Enduro w/ Carbon
Veneer Tsunami
Mounted -1 from dot with Shifts

Off to Japan on Thursday


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^^^^holy goddamn - the dream is REAL!! :FIREdevil

tough thread. I just got on BGs a month ago for the first time and they / RES opened my eyes. I love them.

But then there is this thread and bandit selling...

Man I want to slarve I wish the ski was 100% tapered - check

Man I wanna nuke I wish I had a big traditional turn radius - check

Man I wanna pick my way medium speed I wish I had a multiple sidecut eliptical radius - wtf this is the protest thread just let them go faster I swear it won't hurt

...my opinion after two days on the protest

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Originally Posted by sruffian

Man I want to slarve I wish the ski was 100% tapered - check

Man I wanna nuke I wish I had a big traditional turn radius - check

Man I wanna pick my way medium speed I wish I had a multiple sidecut eliptical radius - wtf this is the protest thread just let them go faster I swear it won't hurt

...my opinion after two days on the protest

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Yep, they do just about everything that involves soft snow well, actually, I don’t really know what they do poorly when it involves soft snow


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Issue I ran into was heavy snow and bogging tips. But I was also tired

Finally mounted these up.
Custom 192, enduro, flex 4. Mounted -2 from the dot. I used my 188’s as my reference for mount point since I love the way they ski there.
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Just a heads up going to be putting up my 188’s for sale in the next day or so. Great shape, have brand new attack 13 demos on them. Had some unexpected expenses, so can’t justify keeping these and 192 Protests

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Originally Posted by Muggydude

Just a heads up going to be putting up my 188’s for sale in the next day or so. Great shape, have brand new attack 13 demos on them. Had some unexpected expenses, so can’t justify keeping these and 192 Protests

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^Interested, but north of the border/don’t want to make things too difficult if there is local interest.

Bumping this up. I PM'd back and forth with Muggy. The weak northern peso has influenced my reluctant pass on these. Someone else buy some rad skis!