I just donate that type of stuff to our local bike collective anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
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I just donate that type of stuff to our local bike collective anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
A-fucking-men. I cannot believe the amount of effort it takes to literally give away quality parts/gear. When my wife was trying to get rid of baby stuff after our kid outgrew it, she said the flakiness/no-show factor went down when she started charging a tiny amount of money for stuff. Her theory was if it's free, people assume it's got no value, but as soon as you put even a small dollar amount on it, their perceived value is higher, so they're more likely to show up and claim their stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
^we’ve done that w junk we put curbside. With a free sign, it just sits. Change the sign to $5 or $10 and it’s gone by morning.
"Is this still available?"Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
"Yes"
*crickets*
"Would you take [discounted amount] for this?"
"Yes, I can do that"
*crickets*
Shit's equally bad on the other side too. So many people think their junk is a goldmine...your used baby gear that's probably been vomited and pooped on is not worth 80% of retail value.
You make a reasonable offer (that's still above the price you see the same item listed for in nearby towns) on an item that's been sitting for a while and already shows a price cut.
"I'll give you $100 cash, can pick up today..."
You'll get the notification that they've read your message...and then silence. Not even a counter offer or a "no, the price is firm"
Then you look back a week later and they still haven't sold that shit. You look at their profile and they are clearly just dumping stuff that their kid has outgrown and they don't want to store anymore... Do you want to get rid of your crap or not?
Or try to get any info about the product...
"what version is it? Will it work with X?"
"I bought it 2 years ago"
I appreciate you don't want to do my legwork for me...but I can't tell which model it is from your shit pictures and telling me you bought it 2 years ago doesn't help if the manufacturer is still selling multiple versions today...can you at least tell me what YOU used it with so I can try to figure it out?
My kid just sold his clean medium carbon FSI Cannondale hardtail with Deore/XT he outgrew on it. He had it listed for $999, He was expecting to get ~$750 for it. Modern bike, all thru axles, modern geo, etc. 24lbs with fat Maxxis tires and pedals on it.
His favorite interaction after it had been up a few days:
"Will you take $500 for it?"
"I can do $800"
"That's too much, I know what bikes are worth. I'm overpaying at $500 but I need a bike"
He sold it a few days later for $800...
I do that to lowballers all the time, fuck those people. If the person want to come and look at my stuff and see what condition it is, then haggle, that's fine. I'm not debating anyone over texts or responding to people I think are lowballing dozens of people until they get what they want. Also, "cash today" is no incentive to take a low offer, I'm not a meth head.Quote:
Originally Posted by singlesline
Honestly I often don't care if it sells, and I'd rather donate my stuff than give annoying people a deal. Sometimes I sell items for less than the first lowball offer to someone who doesn't suck.Quote:
Originally Posted by singlesline
Obviously we both know the exact value of everything we buy/sell, so the above would never apply to you, ha. Just had to vent since you brought it up. I'm definetly not selling used baby stuff, I can say that.
In my opinion, offering you $100 for a item you have listed for $120 (and which usually sells for $80 or less if I were willing to drive further) is not a lowball, that's reasonable haggling(see sfotex's story).
Sure, if someone says "I'll give you $20 for it" maybe you can feel free to ignore them, but seems rant-worthy to just ignore someone who is making a good faith effort to buy your stuff...I might even still buy it if you say "no, price is firm at $120".
As for cash today...at least when I'm selling crap, you picking it up today means I can remove the listing and not have to respond to more random people who will flake out or no-show)...that's a HUGE benefit for me. The cash component may not matter (although...not like I'm going to take a personal check), but you picking that shit up today does me a favor.
FWIW, said $120 baby shit is still for sale today at $120 having been listed for 2+ months now. Seller finally responded 10 days later and said "In talks, I'll let you know"...but at this point I've already met my needs for the much lower price of $50...
(Amusingly, seller is also the same seller from the "I bought it 2 years ago" story...my wife messaged her about the same item and got the useless response. Who knows...my wife might have even paid the $120 if she'd gotten confirmation it was the right model)
I know people have other priorities than responding to messages...but this is the rant thread.
Also, that's why I still sell a lot of smaller things on ebay: I can set a 7 or 10 day auction and I know that at the end of that period, I can put it in a box and it will be gone.
Or...
If you're about to spend $500 on something and the description includes a word you don't understand, I don't know, maybe something like "superboost".
Don't you think you might want to ask what that word means before you purchase said item?!
2024 bikes still being spec’d with Reverb droppers (not axs)!
As I said, you and I are the perfect sellers/buyers. Except for mayyyyyybe the fact I'm shallow enough to let spite guide my responses, ha.Quote:
Originally Posted by singlesline
Acquaintance of mine who used to own/run an LBS now runs an eBay bike business, presume mostly w NOS or other unique items. His IG routinely is hilarious on this point w people not reading the listing and being dicks about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roxtar
Another LBS got dinged at 1-star when presumably he called said shop and asked if they could work on some kind of Amazon Emile and he said no.
PS - collarbone ortho surgery consult, they want to hold off on surgery surprisingly. Reevaluate next week and have second opinion scheduled tomorrow.
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I was reading a great bike shop review last night - Guy goes to bike shop, asks for help putting on trunk bike carrier be bought somewhere else. Employee helps guy out, guy uses rack for a few weeks and notices it dented his trunk and leaves nasty review for bike shop about rack, owner fires back:Quote:
Originally Posted by VTskibum
YOU damaged YOUR car with YOUR rack? sounds frustrating....yeesh. May be something you should consult with the retailer that sold you the rack? No? Or, you could get all "disgruntled English teacher" on us and write a review to showcase your talent.
Remember, always take out your frustrations on a small business. That's the answer.
You just need to ride your bike more. Try it! It's fun and healthy! Plus, a great way to work off some stress...... Or, you could go around and leave bad reviews on local bike shops Google pages. Yes, we saw where you've now done this to others in town, several others.
I’d tell your Doc you want the surgery, or tell that to the next Doc. Fuck waiting for it to heal in pain. Shit feels so much better after surgery, heals faster, anatomically aligned, etc. Do it. Sorry about your c-bone, that shit sucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by VTskibum
Between you and SoVTJoey nearly cutting his thumb off, VT Mags are havin a rough run.
I nuked my collarbone on Friday, consult on Wednesday. Doesn't hurt much, but definitely makes daily stuff tricky. Is it always worth pushing for surgery? This is my first experience with ortho stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by beaterdit
IMO yes. Done both, the first was minimally displaced and they wanted to take the conservative approach. Until I sneezed and it overlapped itself. The second one was obliterated and needed surgery ASAP. Both felt better after surgery and immediately had more function. Healed up fast with no movement. I feel like it’s especially an advantage as we get older and heal slower. I’ve never healed one without surgery but I’ve seen the results and have a few friends with poor alignment or big lumps that wish they got it fixed.
Good to know. I have an appointment at TOSH and pretty decent insurance, so I could probably push to get some hardware. I have a MTB trip tentatively scheduled for December that I'd really like to be able to hit.Quote:
Originally Posted by beaterdit
I was riding mellow at five weeks after my first, full on at seven weeks after my 2nd, much worse break. I was stoked because that was a Squamish trip I had planned.
Surgery scheduled to plate it on Friday. My Dr is sports medical director for Phillies MLB, so certainly has the resume. The surgery just seems like a much more stable and straightforward recovery path vs variables of maybe it heals on its own.
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Good deal, good luck with recovery!Quote:
Originally Posted by VTskibum
Leaky chain lube bottles. Dumonde Lite arrived with ~1/5 of the contents spilled into the packaging. Guess I'll have to find a pin or something to plug it up.
Current order from Germany is going through LAX! That place seems like a black hole for customs. My last order that went through LA sat for about 6 weeks. I’ve had great luck with stuff going through Detroit and east coast locations.
Good. I'd only consider conservative treatment for a completely non-displaced and non-comminuted break. Even then, if you're on the wrong side of 40 surgery is probably warranted.Quote:
Originally Posted by VTskibum
1977 was 47 years ago yet we keep on studying. And if there are all ready 2700 miles of roads, by very definition the area does not meet Wilderness standards.Quote:
No lands in the Gallatin Range are permanently protected from development, roads, mining, logging, power lines. To continue to provide clean air and water, homes for wildlife, scenic beauty, quiet, and solitude they need protection by the only permanent and effective method, federal Wilderness designation.
In 1977, the 155,000 acre HPBH Wilderness Study Area (WSA) was created by Congress along the Gallatin Range from Hyalite Reservoir to Yellowstone National Park, in the hopes that it would soon become formal Wilderness. Unfortunately, legislators did not follow through and the USFS failed to manage the land as intended.
Recently, the Gallatin Forest Partnership proposed the Greater Yellowstone Conservation and Recreation Act (GYCRA). Do not be fooled by this proposal. It is essentially a mountain biking promotion act. Mountain bikes, being machines, are not allowed in Wilderness Areas. GYCRA proposes only 102,000 acres of Wilderness in the Gallatin Range including only 85,587 acres of the 155,000 acre WSA. It sets aside 126,000 acres for mountain biking and mechanized recreation. This hardly qualifies as protection for wild lands.
About 48,000 acres of the Gallatin Range are already laced with over 2,700 miles of roads, the distance from Bozeman to Oaxaca, Mexico. GYCRA fails to protect areas important for wildlife. The Buffalo Horn-Porcupine region is prime habitat for elk, grizzly bears, wolves, bighorn sheep and wolverines. The West Pine region offers a very important wildlife migration corridor.
The GYCRA is a selfish, short-sighted, arrogant proposal that ignores history and capitalizes on the failures of the Forest Service to manage recreation on these lands in accordance with the WSA law.
I remember the Gallatin Range before mountain bikes and dirt bikes arrived and still cherish the memory of quiet, solitude, little-used trails, and abundant wildlife. These can be restored with a better Wilderness proposal.
Noreen Breeding
"It is essentially a mountain biking promotion act."https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...8b5942a2eb.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Bunion 2020
Not to be that guy, but part of the Gallatin Range is in YNP.Quote:
No lands in the Gallatin Range are permanently protected
I’d love to have a discussion about Wilderness with one of these folks and point out that the whole concept fundamentally depends on indigenous erasure. Uncommon Ground came out nearly 30 years ago, but I doubt many of these serious thinkers have read it.
Most of these are really oldsters who are pissed that anyone would dare compromise and they will hang on to WSA protections until they are buried. It is long past time to put a end by date on WSAs, reach a consensus and move the fuck on.
I’ve run into our dear friend Noreen out on the trails years ago. Bitch be crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunion 2020
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Not to be THAT GUY, but this seems particularly unlikely given the buffalo soldiers of 1897:Quote:
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Post surgery, Dr said it was a pretty bad break but should be all sorted. Follow up 9/24. In the meantime opted for a nerve block so I can stay off heavy stuff, currently can’t feel a damn thing. Glad I didn’t screw around and got it fixed day 7 post crash. Will get on PT seriously, plus trainer and leg blasters when cleared.Quote:
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I think I had 7 screws and a plate in mine. I opted to have it removed once it was completely healed because the screws were annoying to me. The removal was a quick easy surgery and I'm glad I did it.Quote:
Originally Posted by VTskibum
I had the two plates removed removed from my right one because one was directly on top and bothered me. The Plate on the left is on the front and more tucked in, doesn't bother me. One of the many advantages of getting it fixed is you have a semi-functional limb with decent ROM right off the bat with no sling or brace. Once the nerve block wears off hahaha! I couldn't feel anything for like 36 hours!
Happy healing guys!
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Jeezus the photo uploader still sucks.
IME its a good idea to get the HW removed in case you break it again which happened to me and yeah the HW removal is way less painful than when it was put in .Quote:
Originally Posted by jackstraw
Not a rant here, but cool as fuck.
And very interesting experiment.
https://kottke.org/24/09/mountain-bi...a-moving-train
Interesting re plate removal. Friend of mine broke hers once plated one and seemingly did ok I think!?! Will consider getting it removed.Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
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well ya the pro said to me " we can see you already got something in there " it was just a screw but they didn't want to chance hitting it with a rod so they did a plate, I got the plate and all the HW out about 9 months later and I think that was a good idea., so they will say you don't need to get the HW out but you never know what you will fuck up down the road, I heard anecdotaly some fuckup on a harley who fell on a broken leg with a rod it so the whole fucking leg & rod bent now what do you do ??Quote:
Originally Posted by VTskibum
SO IMO/ IME you wana get all the HW out just say it hurts or SFT ,
even tho i was sposed to ride the wheel chair post op I walked out of recovery so it definalty ain't bad
I've got my appointment to get hardware in my clavicle on Tuesday. Any recommendations for pain management? Is it no big deal? I'd love to avoid any sort of serious pills afterwards, especially since I'm trying to go back to work pretty much right away.
They should do a nerve block that’ll last 24-48 hours. Then I took oxycodone for a few days, then naproxen OR ibuprofen plus Tylenol. I tend to like naproxen/Alleve over ibuprofen just because it lasts longer but you can’t take it WITH ibuprofen. You can take Tylenol with either of those though. . Also ice is nice. You can prolly get by without the oxy, or just take it at night.
They're drilling a bunch of holes through bone, so expect some pain. I recall my first 1-2 days being pretty rough at times. After that it gets better quickly.
I lived with my hardware for 8 years, mostly for financial reasons. Finally got it out last year and have been very happy about it. If I had waited much longer it may not have been possible. Bone loves Ti.
Everyone is different, but all I needed post surgery was Advil/Tylenol. I filled the script for the oxy or whatever it was and didn't use one. That was a waste of $.Quote:
Originally Posted by unitofstuff