Att zipfit gurus!

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Originally Posted by Skeeze

If you can wait a week, I can send photos of how Olympic Bootworks set mine up. The cut is on the inner edge of the liners. That said, you’re not going to be switching the heating element between two liners—to do it right, I think it needs to be a semi-permanent job.

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would love to see those pics.

I got my insoles installed in my World Cup liners.... damn... after a couple days on them it's life changing to have warm toes. It feels like they fit and ski better now. I'm sold.
I ran the cable out a hole under my arch, then gaff taped it around below my ankle bone and wrapping up to the outside cuff where the battery mounts. seems like it'll hold for the world-cup-style entry, with maybe a retape or two though the season.

but yeah... definitely won't be swapping between liners. I ordered another set of the heat elements cheap for the GFT's. Anyone have any thoughts on how to best run the cable to avoid destroying it for walk-mode?

while I'm in this thread... any updates on the rumoured lighter foam+cork touring specific Zipfit?

https://youtu.be/fnC3So3W_GA?si=98ULmoJQ8TwByRZd&t=858

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Originally Posted by Skeeze

Here ya go

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yeah sweet. gotcha and thanks

Of you're talking about what i think you're talking about. Google start haus video for race fit hotronics.

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Originally Posted by Judo Chop!

while I'm in this thread... any updates on the rumoured lighter foam+cork touring specific Zipfit?

https://youtu.be/fnC3So3W_GA?si=98ULmoJQ8TwByRZd&t=858

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Yeah, also waiting for this. I have to do something soon about heel hold in my ZGTP. GFT is tempting but I'd love warmer and lighter that is supposedly coming.

I thought a few years ago someone made an intuition + zipfits hybrid. Does anyone remember the name?

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https://daleboot.com/de/products/zipfit-liner

what’s this?

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Originally Posted by NW_SKIER

Sounds like you need more cork around your ankles to keep them from tilting in the boot.

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FWIW, I have not added or removed any work from the liners out of the package. Have a 1 finger shell fit so it's pretty snug in there.

Could it be possible that there's too much cork on the medial side of the ankle and too little on the lateral side as some sort of defect?

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Originally Posted by DoubleBogey

https://daleboot.com/de/products/zipfit-liner

what’s this?

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Zipfit does branded liners for a couple companies. Saw one for Boot Doctors out of telluride recently as well.

It looks like the Freeride liner. I wonder if there’s interior leather/exterior

After more than a decade using intuitions I spent my first winter in zipfit workhorses this past year in NZ. I'm converted for sure.
Turns out cochise 130 shells are a bit more high volume than I need, even in the right size. The intuitions were filling all the extra space.
I had to pump 4 extra tubes of cork into each liner. At some point I think maybe I've added too much, or its in the wrong place. I tried to distribute it evenly between both sides, and the tongues.

I think the cork might be twisting my feet like this... \ / and I'm getting quite bad pressure on the 6th toe area, even after having punches done to the shells. Anyone else experience this? Any suggestions?

I'm also adjusting to how much room there is in the toe box and it feels like the front half of my foot is just floating out there. Maybe the extra room is contributing to that movement? I've read through as much of this thread as I could, it sounds like some people are putting shims under their footbeds to take up space?

I’ve had a similar path to you…thought Intuitions were the ticket till they packed out one too many times, switched to Zipfits (and will never look back), had to pump a bunch of cork into the World Cup Sidewinder liners, fit was decent around the ankle but the front half of my foot was floating in space.

I have finally just sized down one shell size, and with an LV Zipfit I think things will finally be dialled in.

So maybe you need a smaller shell?

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Originally Posted by DoubleBogey

It looks like the Freeride liner. I wonder if there’s interior leather/exterior

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according to Jeff from zipfit it’s just a freeride in custom colors. Nothing else is different spec wise.

Interesting warranty info regarding too much cork https://app.zipfit.com/warranty

The zips definitely give you much for room in the forefoot. If you are in the right shell size, try shimming the foot up as it will be narrower higher up in the shell. It’s tough fitting zips into old boots. You may find that you would choose a completely different shell knowing you want zips.

Adding a ton of cork is tricky. The pockets are relatively small and they get quite bulbous when really filled. It doesn’t always work for people. Zips are definitely preferable in a tight shell fit and not a roomy shell fit that needs a bunch of volume filled. The cork moves around too much. And as mentioned, the pockets start getting weird shapes.

You are probably correct on your stance alteration causing problems. Adding to that, the thin forefoot doesn’t give padding like you once had.

Started molding tonight.
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just picked up some Gara's to put in some Lange Shadows. Without going back thru this thread due to the site being extra slow lately, what is everyone's preferred heating method for a DIY home fit? I think i was leaning hair dryer or boot dryer but....

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just picked up some Gara's to put in some Lange Shadows. Without going back thru this thread due to the site being extra slow lately, what is everyone's preferred heating method for a DIY home fit? I think i was leaning hair dryer or boot dryer but....

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The microwave instructions worked for me, quick bursts.

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just picked up some Gara's to put in some Lange Shadows. Without going back thru this thread due to the site being extra slow lately, what is everyone's preferred heating method for a DIY home fit? I think i was leaning hair dryer or boot dryer but....

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so I did a convection oven for my first three initial molds. Work well but I noticed the sole on the toes started lifting up. Once cooked they stuck right back in place but for the last three I used the microwave and got better results. Felt like the cork got warmer and was easier to mold. Did 20 sec burst on each side.
used the good old Florida boot oven to heat the shell.

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Originally Posted by naedward81

The microwave instructions worked for me, quick bursts.

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Remove the velcro strap. The metal buckle can do some damage once hot enough

Or it can cause an arc, as I found out.


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Originally Posted by Gepeto

Remove the velcro strap. The metal buckle can do some damage once hot enough

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not saying you’re wrong. Just interesting zipfit doesn’t mention needing to remove the strap.

It didn't happen the first two heat sessions. I lean into diminishing returns, and this happened.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...8ee77a61bb.jpg

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Originally Posted by Gepeto

It didn't happen the first two heat sessions. I lean into diminishing returns, and this happened.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...8ee77a61bb.jpg

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how long did you heat it for?

I did 20 seconds each side and never got anywhere near that hot. And was any of the black paint already chipped off? Supposedly if it’s been chipped you can cause issues microwaving. So new shouldn’t be an issue.

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Originally Posted by FloridaSnow

...So new shouldn’t be an issue.

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30sec - 1100watts

I had skied them

Buckle was touching the liner

A little smoke is all. Works fine

I wrap the liner in an old towel or tshirt to go in the microwave. I’ve never noticed any sparking or smoking. Pull the footbeds but otherwise leave them intact.

Those of us who have low volume height (but not width) forefoot what is your best solution for taking up vertical volume over the forefoot where the liner flips to neoprene? I wish zipfit made a liner with cork on top of the foot down to the toe box.

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Those of us who have low volume height (but not width) forefoot what is your best solution for taking up vertical volume over the forefoot where the liner flips to neoprene? I wish zipfit made a liner with cork on top of the foot down to the toe box.

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There is no good solution, I've tried sticking foam on the neoprene but it just eventually falls off.

If you can shim the whole boot that is an option, but that doesn't always work depending on the heel cup and instep.

Maybe they could make like an extra neoprene sock or something to go on just the forefoot.

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Originally Posted by TAFKALVS

Those of us who have low volume height (but not width) forefoot what is your best solution for taking up vertical volume over the forefoot where the liner flips to neoprene? I wish zipfit made a liner with cork on top of the foot down to the toe box.

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Killed two birds with one stone for me, gas pedaled my insole.

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Originally Posted by mr_pretzel

There is no good solution, I've tried sticking foam on the neoprene but it just eventually falls off.

If you can shim the whole boot that is an option, but that doesn't always work depending on the heel cup and instep.

Maybe they could make like an extra neoprene sock or something to go on just the forefoot.

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I wonder if the neoprene toe covers that SVST sells for boot fitting would work? Or cut the toes off wading/water shoes?

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Originally Posted by mr_pretzel

There is no good solution, I've tried sticking foam on the neoprene but it just eventually falls off.

If you can shim the whole boot that is an option, but that doesn't always work depending on the heel cup and instep.

Maybe they could make like an extra neoprene sock or something to go on just the forefoot.

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I wonder if the neoprene toe covers that SVST sells for boot fitting would work? Or cut the toes off wading/water shoes?

Thinkin this stuff...
Craft Felt Fabric Sheets https://a.co/d/5i2J3wt
I need to gain toebox roof contact/less volume.

And possibly line with this if there's room
HBC Merino Wool Blend Felt Crafting Sheets https://a.co/d/4r03W83
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...c2e382eeef.jpg

How will you keep it attached though?

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How will you keep it attached though?

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Both referenced materials are adhesive backed. Some heat gun to get good activation

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Thinkin this stuff...
Craft Felt Fabric Sheets https://a.co/d/5i2J3wt
I need to gain toebox roof contact/less volume.

And possibly line with this if there's room
HBC Merino Wool Blend Felt Crafting Sheets https://a.co/d/4r03W83
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...c2e382eeef.jpg

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The adhesive on the 10x10 sheets is pretty good, add a strip of gaffe tape if needed
https://www.tognar.com/ski-and-snowb...-foam-10-x-10/

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Originally Posted by jmills

The adhesive on the 10x10 sheets is pretty good, add a strip of gaffe tape if needed
https://www.tognar.com/ski-and-snowb...-foam-10-x-10/

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Originally Posted by jmills

The adhesive on the 10x10 sheets is pretty good, add a strip of gaffe tape if needed
https://www.tognar.com/ski-and-snowb...-foam-10-x-10/

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I’ve used the Tognar foam on non-zip race liners. It works great! I definitely recommend some gaffers or Boot Doc tape (it’s like 4” wide gaffers tape—my local boot fitter just gives me some for free when I need it) over the foam if you’re world cupping the zips.

I struggle with excess forefoot height in the boot but have a wide forefoot. Often find my first met has a 1/4” of vertical play but my 5th is crushed vertically. I use zips of course.

I shim my boot board and taper it off to nothing at my heel. Cover with tape. Tuck the tape behind the heel of the boot board to ensure no snagging.

I hate rockered boot boards and like a flat stance, so this solution works well for me. If you want to keep your stance the same, I’m not sure what would work as you’d have the pad the top of the forefoot. I would prefer to do that with a heat moldable material as it would be very difficult to have 5mm of foam that doesn’t end up causing problems. If Velcro stuck, that would be awesome.

why not just take whatever material you like, and aqua seal it on? it'll stick fine to neoprene. I've done it successfully with various watersports gear mods.

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Originally Posted by M3Mike02

After more than a decade using intuitions I spent my first winter in zipfit workhorses this past year in NZ. I'm converted for sure.
Turns out cochise 130 shells are a bit more high volume than I need, even in the right size. The intuitions were filling all the extra space.
I had to pump 4 extra tubes of cork into each liner. At some point I think maybe I've added too much, or its in the wrong place. I tried to distribute it evenly between both sides, and the tongues.

I think the cork might be twisting my feet like this... \ / and I'm getting quite bad pressure on the 6th toe area, even after having punches done to the shells. Anyone else experience this? Any suggestions?

I'm also adjusting to how much room there is in the toe box and it feels like the front half of my foot is just floating out there. Maybe the extra room is contributing to that movement? I've read through as much of this thread as I could, it sounds like some people are putting shims under their footbeds to take up space?

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If you look at how those ankle pockets are channeled, it really is a crapshoot distributing cork into them blind, let alone 4 tubes worth into each liner.

Zipfits are great if you have the right shellfit. Once you start having to add cork to the ankle pockets I don't know if finding boot-fit nirvana is ever going to happen. The Intuition reference is great because Intuitions really do a great job of masking a shitty shellfit...until they start to pack out.

You're in the wrong shell.