Older parents-WWYD?

One of the things we've talked about a few times in this thread is not leaving unfinished business. I did but with the best intentions. I didn't see the need to bring the hurt opening what I thought were old wounds but apparently, they were still fresh and valid. I didn't want to have it turn ugly and my dad and I cut off communication again and it ending that way so we danced around it and hugged it out and I thought we were good to go but no... Now I have to live with that decision for however long and the fact that I didn't watch my own back is haunting me and keeping me up most of the night. My brother said some really mean shit that I sure didn't expect and probably won't ever be able to work past and it looks like there won't be any communication until I receive the will in the mail. I think I'm going to start filling out random magazine subscriptions with his address. I need some other totally benign ways to fuck with him that he'll never think came from me.

Sorry you're going through drama with your brother GL. After all you've been through to have the misery extended after your father's passing is awful.

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On my end it looks like I'll have Mom's medicaid approval next week and can move her into the memory care facility. I'm a little worried for her because she's fairly high functioning. I hope there are others there that are at her level. She has vascular dementia from the stroke with left neglect. She knows what day/month/year it is, where she lives (country/state/county/city/name of facility) and who is president etc.ect. but has deficits here and there. She is basically between a nursing home and memory care at this point. Her wandering prevents her from being in assisted living anymore.

The state social worker who interviewed her today told me that once she is moved into the new facility that I shouldn't visit her for several weeks so she settles in but that seems so cruel esp. since I've been seeing her everyday since the stroke (prior to the stroke I would see her once a week when she was in assisted living and when she was independent it was every 2 weeks).

It's hard to decide if the social worker really knows what's best.

One of the times my mom wandered off, my dad couldn't find her. After checking every nook in the condo, he walked the grounds and the paths to the tennis courts. They loved tennis.

He couldn't find her, so called the cops.

Cops search a wide swath, out to the golf courses and swamps, no hints, no sign of her whereabouts.

Finally, someone goes up on the roof of the condo and there she is.

I'fd talk to the sw some more and make a guess about how connected they are to the particular situation. Follow your heart from there. Good luck.

KQ I think I’d go back to your pre-stroke routine. Skipping three weeks just to encourage her to assimilate seems childish. Glad you’ve found her a facility that can grow with her greater needs.

Saw this on CBS this morning...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rJ7eqON7Ac

At 4:15 in the vid they talk Medi-Cal (Medicaid in California) covering long term care. For anyone who might potentially benefit here are some links that could be of interest...

Medi-Cal Asset Elimination FAQ

Medi-Cal (for People with Medicare)

Ways to Lower or Stop your Medi-Cal Share of Cost

My partner is destroying herself, we've got to get some in home care.
It's very unlikely that the FIL would allow himself to be put in a nursing home. It's more or less a guarantee that every nursing home would kick him out in short order.

Anyone got any recs for Eastside Seattle area? Looks like Home Instead has decent reviews.

Picked up Dad on the weekend and brought him to our place. He had a small heart attack, in and around getting surgery to remove a couple toes that got infected after smashing them into something. He spent the last month in hospital. Managed to discharge himself and get back home (against our advice), but quickly realized he doesn’t have the strength to live alone just yet.
Wife works part time in local homehealth in addition to her acute care position so was able to transfer his paperwork over to our facilities easily enough. His dressing and vac pump need changing every three days.
Got to get the grab bars installed in the bath. Cat took just a couple hours to explain to his pup who rules the house so all good there. Our TV runs mostly through our computer and/or internet so it’s been a bit challenging getting him used to our tech, but our daughter lives for the opportunity to play with any screen device so he is well supported in the entertainment realm.

He’s finally making a commitment to sell his property, still hasn’t decided where to move to, maybe stay in Nelson, maybe near Vancouver. Trying to get him to make that decision so we can help with those next steps. Puts a bit of a crimp in our plans for the summer, but that’s what family is all about. Hope I am a bit more proactive when I am his age - LOL- but probably not.

I'm not that old yet but its coming so Junior and i had the very start of that convo where I said yeah i might move back to PeeG so when I become a problem it will be easier on you for me to be A problem, I would miss the town but it wouldn't take much to get rid of shit and move east at some point

Good luck to you my friends.
Lucky my folks sold their place and moved into a place with care when needed.

This seems the right and possibly only place to ask this; is there a word for loving your mom but also thinking it wouldn't be the worst thing if she died.
Wife and I have been discussing this recently about both our respective mothers in their 80s.
Mine just left after being here for a week with no plan but fiending for time with only grandchild. Wife is getting wellness check calls from Dr offices and sherriffs in NH as her mom is un responsive for weeks, then shows up at a Dr office talking crazy....

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This seems the right and possibly only place to ask this; is there a word for loving your mom but also thinking it wouldn't be the worst thing if she died.
Wife and I have been discussing this recently about both our respective mothers in their 80s.
Mine just left after being here for a week with no plan but fiending for time with only grandchild. Wife is getting wellness check calls from Dr offices and sherriffs in NH as her mom is un responsive for weeks, then shows up at a Dr office talking crazy....

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I know what you mean. My mom had Alzheimer’s pretty bad, the mean kind. Vibes.

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My partner is destroying herself, we've got to get some in home care.
It's very unlikely that the FIL would allow himself to be put in a nursing home. It's more or less a guarantee that every nursing home would kick him out in short order.

Anyone got any recs for Eastside Seattle area? Looks like Home Instead has decent reviews.

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He needs to go into memory care. They deal with the difficult and violent all the time and have more leeway in what they can do than a general nursing home.

My neighbor has early onset and was fit and violent but the memory cate facility they put him in was able to deal with him. As he progressed deeper into the disease he mellowed.

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This seems the right and possibly only place to ask this; is there a word for loving your mom but also thinking it wouldn't be the worst thing if she died.

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Yes, it's called compassion. It's something I've hoped for on more than one occasion. No one wants to suffer or see their loved one suffer.

May we all go peacefully into that long dark night......

Got mom moved into the memory care facility on Thursday.

She seemed good during the day and really liked her room but had a hard night.

She was pretty down when I showed up to have lunch with her and had told the caregivers she didn't want to eat (was sitting alone in her chair on the main TV room) but I enticed her with coffee and she perked up then ate a good lunch. I'll be going in for lunch with her until she settles.

I was concerned about how she'd do with a roommate but her roommate is a wanderer so isn't in there much. I guess the roommate also likes to disrobe and walk the halls naked sometimes. She's a good looking woman with a trim figure so at least there's that. LOL. Place is nice but seriously, memory care facilities are far off insane asylums.

On a positive note for her one of her care givers from the assisted living facility she moved from also works at the place she is now so she has one familiar face.

I had to buy smaller furnishings for her space and went with white to keep the room light and airy. She was very happy with that decision. Wish I could post a pic. It's actually a very nice space.

If anyone wants to pick my brain about things to think about/consider when making the move to care I'm happy to help. I've have learned much and there are many little things to keep in mind that will make a difference for you and your loved one.

Also I can speak to Washington Apple care which is our medicaid. Mom got lucky having dumped her assets 20+ years ago. We were able to get her approved in 10 days and now she's 100% covered.

The biggest thing I would say to do is plan ahead.... WAY ahead so that the decisions are theirs (or yours if your approaching that age) and find a community that can take them/you through all the stages so you don't have to move. Be it that they have separate facilities on the same campus (independent/assisted/nursing or memory care) or that they at least allow you to bring in care (some don't and will make you move).


Buster: I know a good elder care atty in Edmonds if you're Interested. They can help navigate financial issues.

If your parents have Apple devices ask them to add a legacy contact so you can access important documents and information in case they pass.

Easy instructions: https://support.apple.com/en-us/102631

My wife is in WV for her mom’s memorial and to go through and purge her stuff from the house this week. A MacBook, 2 iPads and a virtually new iPhone were left behind with no idea on password. Now have to send Apple a death certificate picture through a portal to get them unlocked. Not what she wanted to do with her afternoon with limited time out there. But she needs access to certain documents.

^^^thanks for that.

Took my mother to see her primary care physician for the first time since the stroke on March 7th. Not really happy with him, never have been but she likes him.

In talking to him about Mom he seemed totally clueless as to what is going on with her since the stroke. Not specific to her but just the after effects of a stroke in general. He seemed to have no idea what "left neglect" was and when I explained it to him he argued with me saying "but she can use her left arm" and I said "left neglect is a brain issue not a body issue" which he denied and then tried to doctorsplain to me. Nope dude... I know all about it, I've been researching it for the last month or more and you sir are wrong.

He also questioned why I had moved her to a memory care facility again seeming oblivious to the after effects of a stroke causing a brain injury. I had to tell him she has vascular dementia due to the stroke and he just shook his head. WTF?

On top of all of this I see a notice in the local newspaper that the place I just moved her to is in receivership. Great. Could end up meaning nothing as they reorganize but still, I just don't need this.

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Took my mother to see her primary care physician for the first time since the stroke on March 7th. Not really happy with him, never have been but she likes him.

In talking to him about Mom he seemed totally clueless as to what is going on with her since the stroke. Not specific to her but just the after effects of a stroke in general. He seemed to have no idea what "left neglect" was and when I explained it to him he argued with me saying "but she can use her left arm" and I said "left neglect is a brain issue not a body issue" which he denied and then tried to doctorsplain to me. Nope dude... I know all about it, I've been researching it for the last month or more and you sir are wrong.

He also questioned why I had moved her to a memory care facility again seeming oblivious to the after effects of a stroke causing a brain injury. I had to tell him she has vascular dementia due to the stroke and he just shook his head. WTF?

On top of all of this I see a notice in the local newspaper that the place I just moved her to is in receivership. Great. Could end up meaning nothing as they reorganize but still, I just don't need this.

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That sux re the doc. Explain to him the difference between the motor and sensory cortex. Assuming he went to med school that should help him understand.

As far as the receivership, all should be well once private equity picks it up. Yeah, right. The fun never ends.

Anyone have experience cleaning up the finance of a parent? MIL took a tumble (ICU->hospital->now in rehab) and medicare payment was late, so wife finally got some access to her financial accounts. At first glance, seems she has ~$100k credit card debt, $41k car loan (on a fucking rav4!), $50k HELOC, $1600 mortgage and hundreds each month in overdraft fees. Haven't seen the credit card statements yet, but it probably all HSN & food delivery. Some how manages to have a bill from AT&T for >$300 per month. Plus she has a few random loans that balance increases each month(interest only payments?).

I'm very frugal and never had credit card debt or random loans, so no idea how to proceed. Wife is wanting to tackle fixing it herself, I think we need to hire a professional. Good news is her take home income is around $100k per year. Seems absolutely crazy to waste that much money.

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Yeah my sister was a senior banker and the executor so she knows a lot of shit about money/finances also she lived close to mom and so she had the finances completley in order before mom died so we got probate super quick I think it was only 9 months and pretty much all i did was cash the checks she sent me

so IME you want to do things before the parent dies

Might have to initially let your wife attempt to manage things, but be prepared to immediately jump to a pro i.e. do you homework in advance and have one already picked out if the shit hits the fan. Can't really tell from info provided - does your wife handle all your family finances really well, or is there some emotion involved here?

I don't know where else to go with this so you folks are getting it.

Fuck my brother is being a dick. Wasn't the way I envisioned it... I called my dads phone the other day to hear his voice and my brother answered so I told him to hang up so I could call back and hear the message because I wanted to hear his voice again. He laughed at me and sneered that he changed it already then hung up.

I'm starting to be angry at my dad rather than missing him sometimes. It's weird, I can't say I didn't expect it but I didn't think it would happen so quickly. Probably because I didn't expect him to pass so quickly. I have all this quiet time in the car when I'm working and it's an hour between stops and I realized the other day that he didn't have to pass so quickly. It's not that I didn't know it but it hit harder this time. He was a lardass, not really fat just a lazy fuck from as far back as I can remember. We rode bikes about a mile once when I was maybe 8 or 9 and he was 31 or 32 and he whined for half of it and never did it again meanwhile I was a 'bike kid' that went everywhere right up to the day I got something motorized on my bike no matter if it was 30 miles or 30 blocks. We walked a few golf courses up until I was in high school and that was it, he wouldn't even play a course that didn't have carts and he wasn't even 40 yet. He had his first heart attack at 42 and was never right again after that. It was a never ending string of letting doctors fuck him up rather than fix him while he sat around and let more problems develop. Until his dad all the men in my family died at 70, he made it to 77. When my dad turned 78 I tried to get him to go out with us to celebrate the record but it was "too much" so we brought a sugar free cake and had coffee with him at home. Yeah, I'm annoyed that he let himself fall apart and now his grandchildren don't have him and even though we didn't have the greatest relationship we could still talk and he was still my dad. There were things we knew about each other and things we could talk about that nobody else could and I'm pissed that he took that away. I'm pissed that he made it so uncomfortable to talk about what broke our relationship that I didn't because I knew it would hurt him and break it worse. Now I'm stuck dealing with my brother being a dick and me most likely shut out of what I always kinda thought was coming to me. As I talk about it I realize that I'm pissed at him for making it hard to talk about because he didn't want it fixed, that he agreed with my mom and just humored me for the last few years. Damnit I'm fucked up.

Do we need to pay your brother a visit?

((((((HUGS)))))) GL.

I'm really sorry you're going through this.

Saw my mom today and she was crazy. Might have a UTI might not. Last time she had a crazy bout like this she tested negative.

She told me "Tommy had been taken to the hospital" and asked how he was doing. Confused I asked her who Tommy was. She replied "your brother."

My brother Tommy died over 50 years ago in a freak accident that did not involve any hospitalization. We've not spoken of him for over 40 years not for any reason just haven't because it's been so long and he was only 9yo so it's not like there were years of life to discuss.

She also asked which room was mine because she thinks I live where she does.

Staff told me she was saying these same things last night though she got my brother's age wrong (said he was 6).

She is also very confused about her wheelchair and keeps trying to get out of it and walk (she can stand but isn't steady on her feet. The stroke and arthritis in her shoulder make using a walker difficult).

Frankly I'd rather she die then live like this and if she's going to head down some path where she's thinking my dead brothers are still alive and she talks about them I'm not sure I can handle that.

Thanks.

We've been dealing with that for a few years with my FIL. It's heartbreaking and painful. Don't feel bad for feeling that the right path might well be to move on. I've had that same thought many times and ultimately that's what got my dad to decide to let his body shut down. He saw it coming and wanted nothing to do with it.

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Anyone have experience cleaning up the finance of a parent? MIL took a tumble (ICU->hospital->now in rehab) and medicare payment was late, so wife finally got some access to her financial accounts. At first glance, seems she has ~$100k credit card debt, $41k car loan (on a fucking rav4!), $50k HELOC, $1600 mortgage and hundreds each month in overdraft fees. Haven't seen the credit card statements yet, but it probably all HSN & food delivery. Some how manages to have a bill from AT&T for >$300 per month. Plus she has a few random loans that balance increases each month(interest only payments?).

I'm very frugal and never had credit card debt or random loans, so no idea how to proceed. Wife is wanting to tackle fixing it herself, I think we need to hire a professional. Good news is her take home income is around $100k per year. Seems absolutely crazy to waste that much money.

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What a mess. Does MIL have the assets and income to pay off this stuff? Don't pay out of your assets and income obviously. On the plus side, once the bank repos the house and all her bills are paid as best she can she should easily quailify for free nursing home care from Medicaid. Good luck.

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Anyone have experience cleaning up the finance of a parent? MIL took a tumble (ICU->hospital->now in rehab) and medicare payment was late, so wife finally got some access to her financial accounts. At first glance, seems she has ~$100k credit card debt, $41k car loan (on a fucking rav4!), $50k HELOC, $1600 mortgage and hundreds each month in overdraft fees. Haven't seen the credit card statements yet, but it probably all HSN & food delivery. Some how manages to have a bill from AT&T for >$300 per month. Plus she has a few random loans that balance increases each month(interest only payments?).

I'm very frugal and never had credit card debt or random loans, so no idea how to proceed. Wife is wanting to tackle fixing it herself, I think we need to hire a professional. Good news is her take home income is around $100k per year. Seems absolutely crazy to waste that much money.

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What a mess. Does MIL have the assets and income to pay off this stuff? Don't pay out of your assets and income obviously. On the plus side, once the bank repos the house and all her bills are paid as best she can she should easily quailify for free nursing home care from Medicaid. Good luck.

Figured out today she has paid over $50k of interest on the $50k HELOC balance...I had no idea you could have an interest only loan. At least the car loan is paying down principle, but who pays $50k for a rav4!?

I handle most of the bills in our house, but wife and I keep money separate. We have 3 young kids and both pretty demanding jobs, so no bandwidth for this bs. We still haven't figured out how to get into MIL att email to get info for paying last few months Medicare premium.

Yeah, MIL take home is little over $100k per year, just spends it all on QVC, door dash, interest, and late fees. She has asked us for money several times in past, but wife put her foot down on that years ago.

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Do we need to pay your brother a visit?

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Nah (not yet anyway). I think I'm gonna fuck with him and contest the will and make a stink though. Even if I don't get anything it'll take time and his unemployed ass will probably start to sweat after a while.

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Nah (not yet anyway). I think I'm gonna fuck with him and contest the will and make a stink though. Even if I don't get anything it'll take time and his unemployed ass will probably start to sweat after a while.

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Do you have money to burn and need more drama in your life ? Unless the amount is significant and life changing just say fuck it and fuck you , walk away to maintain some sanity/dignity for yourself.
Don't add fuel to what already sound alike a smoldering grease fire that's been going on for quite awhile.

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Do you have money to burn and need more drama in your life ? Unless the amount is significant and life changing just say fuck it and fuck you , walk away to maintain some sanity/dignity for yourself.
Don't add fuel to what already sound alike a smoldering grease fire that's been going on for quite awhile.

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Have you been paying attention to the types of vehicles GL buys?? Dude *lives* for drama. :D

Just came across this site. Some great advice re caring for dementia patients, deciding on care and issues with care.

There is also a great discussion board

https://www.agingcare.com/

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I don't know where else to go with this so you folks are getting it.

Fuck my brother is being a dick. Wasn't the way I envisioned it... I called my dads phone the other day to hear his voice and my brother answered so I told him to hang up so I could call back and hear the message because I wanted to hear his voice again. He laughed at me and sneered that he changed it already then hung up.

I'm starting to be angry at my dad rather than missing him sometimes. It's weird, I can't say I didn't expect it but I didn't think it would happen so quickly. Probably because I didn't expect him to pass so quickly. I have all this quiet time in the car when I'm working and it's an hour between stops and I realized the other day that he didn't have to pass so quickly. It's not that I didn't know it but it hit harder this time. He was a lardass, not really fat just a lazy fuck from as far back as I can remember. We rode bikes about a mile once when I was maybe 8 or 9 and he was 31 or 32 and he whined for half of it and never did it again meanwhile I was a 'bike kid' that went everywhere right up to the day I got something motorized on my bike no matter if it was 30 miles or 30 blocks. We walked a few golf courses up until I was in high school and that was it, he wouldn't even play a course that didn't have carts and he wasn't even 40 yet. He had his first heart attack at 42 and was never right again after that. It was a never ending string of letting doctors fuck him up rather than fix him while he sat around and let more problems develop. Until his dad all the men in my family died at 70, he made it to 77. When my dad turned 78 I tried to get him to go out with us to celebrate the record but it was "too much" so we brought a sugar free cake and had coffee with him at home. Yeah, I'm annoyed that he let himself fall apart and now his grandchildren don't have him and even though we didn't have the greatest relationship we could still talk and he was still my dad. There were things we knew about each other and things we could talk about that nobody else could and I'm pissed that he took that away. I'm pissed that he made it so uncomfortable to talk about what broke our relationship that I didn't because I knew it would hurt him and break it worse. Now I'm stuck dealing with my brother being a dick and me most likely shut out of what I always kinda thought was coming to me. As I talk about it I realize that I'm pissed at him for making it hard to talk about because he didn't want it fixed, that he agreed with my mom and just humored me for the last few years. Damnit I'm fucked up.

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Hey GL,

I don't have any solution to your anger, but just wanted to let you know you're not alone and I'm so sorry. Your story hits home so hard. I'm still so angry with both my parents, and it really varies from sadness to anger day-to-day, but lately it's really been more anger than anything else. They both died of alcoholism (cirrhosis, cancer, take your pick) 6 months apart last year, and they could have had so many more years to spend with their grandchildren. They were only 74. The hardest part is being mad at both of them for different reasons, but that's a whole other story that I'm still working through. Long story short, it's fucking hard man. I hope you have someone to talk to as I know so many dudes just hold this stuff in. I'm lucky that my wife will talk to me, but I probably need more eventually as it's starting to affect my daily life. She's great and will listen, but she has her own grief to work through as they were her in-laws for nearly 20 years.

I hope you can find peace.
GGL

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I don't know where else to go with this so you folks are getting it.

Fuck my brother is being a dick. Wasn't the way I envisioned it... I called my dads phone the other day to hear his voice and my brother answered so I told him to hang up so I could call back and hear the message because I wanted to hear his voice again. He laughed at me and sneered that he changed it already then hung up.

I'm starting to be angry at my dad rather than missing him sometimes. It's weird, I can't say I didn't expect it but I didn't think it would happen so quickly. Probably because I didn't expect him to pass so quickly. I have all this quiet time in the car when I'm working and it's an hour between stops and I realized the other day that he didn't have to pass so quickly. It's not that I didn't know it but it hit harder this time. He was a lardass, not really fat just a lazy fuck from as far back as I can remember. We rode bikes about a mile once when I was maybe 8 or 9 and he was 31 or 32 and he whined for half of it and never did it again meanwhile I was a 'bike kid' that went everywhere right up to the day I got something motorized on my bike no matter if it was 30 miles or 30 blocks. We walked a few golf courses up until I was in high school and that was it, he wouldn't even play a course that didn't have carts and he wasn't even 40 yet. He had his first heart attack at 42 and was never right again after that. It was a never ending string of letting doctors fuck him up rather than fix him while he sat around and let more problems develop. Until his dad all the men in my family died at 70, he made it to 77. When my dad turned 78 I tried to get him to go out with us to celebrate the record but it was "too much" so we brought a sugar free cake and had coffee with him at home. Yeah, I'm annoyed that he let himself fall apart and now his grandchildren don't have him and even though we didn't have the greatest relationship we could still talk and he was still my dad. There were things we knew about each other and things we could talk about that nobody else could and I'm pissed that he took that away. I'm pissed that he made it so uncomfortable to talk about what broke our relationship that I didn't because I knew it would hurt him and break it worse. Now I'm stuck dealing with my brother being a dick and me most likely shut out of what I always kinda thought was coming to me. As I talk about it I realize that I'm pissed at him for making it hard to talk about because he didn't want it fixed, that he agreed with my mom and just humored me for the last few years. Damnit I'm fucked up.

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Hey GL,

I don't have any solution to your anger, but just wanted to let you know you're not alone and I'm so sorry. Your story hits home so hard. I'm still so angry with both my parents, and it really varies from sadness to anger day-to-day, but lately it's really been more anger than anything else. They both died of alcoholism (cirrhosis, cancer, take your pick) 6 months apart last year, and they could have had so many more years to spend with their grandchildren. They were only 74. The hardest part is being mad at both of them for different reasons, but that's a whole other story that I'm still working through. Long story short, it's fucking hard man. I hope you have someone to talk to as I know so many dudes just hold this stuff in. I'm lucky that my wife will talk to me, but I probably need more eventually as it's starting to affect my daily life. She's great and will listen, but she has her own grief to work through as they were her in-laws for nearly 20 years.

I hope you can find peace.
GGL

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Hey GL,

I don't have any solution to your anger, but just wanted to let you know you're not alone and I'm so sorry. Your story hits home so hard. I'm still so angry with both my parents, and it really varies from sadness to anger day-to-day, but lately it's really been more anger than anything else. They both died of alcoholism (cirrhosis, cancer, take your pick) 6 months apart last year, and they could have had so many more years to spend with their grandchildren. They were only 74. The hardest part is being mad at both of them for different reasons, but that's a whole other story that I'm still working through. Long story short, it's fucking hard man. I hope you have someone to talk to as I know so many dudes just hold this stuff in. I'm lucky that my wife will talk to me, but I probably need more eventually as it's starting to affect my daily life. She's great and will listen, but she has her own grief to work through as they were her in-laws for nearly 20 years.

I hope you can find peace.
GGL

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Yo- I’m sure you’ve heard this multiple times already, but never play down the benefits of having a therapist to talk a few times with every once in a while. I know, I know- even just mentioning the term “therapist” is a tough nut, especially for guys.

But push past the stigmas, and you’ll realize that having a third party to unload and bounce stuff off of can be awesome.

I love my wife to the moon and back, but some parts of your own history are best explored with a neutral person who has experience to handle it. Shit, I’m barely 30 and I’ve realized how even a few opportunities to talk with that kind of someone can really help. It can take time to find the right person/expertise for sure, so take your time if you can go research.

Nobody is perfect and we all have our flaws. Exploring and understanding this aspect of who we are makes us individually stronger- and the knock on effects of that can be far reaching.

My .02 cents, for what it’s worth.

I’m sure this has been talked about elsewhere, but doing a quick search didn’t bring much up. What is the current consensus on reverse mortgages? I’ve always been under the impression that they are a bad idea. My MIL isn’t the smartest of people and is wanting to do this. She doesn’t have a lot of money and her house is her biggest asset. She hasn’t been known to make good financial decisions in the past. Several years ago she thought it would be a great idea to sell her house and live in an RV. That was nothing but a giant money pit. She lives on Bainbridge island now and her house has a rental unit and she generates a little income there.

What she really needs to do is to downsize. Sell the house and get rid of that headache and rent a condo. At least that’s what my wife and I think.

She should talk to a few financial planners that charge by the hour to give advice rather than ones that are out to sell her products.

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Originally Posted by fatnslow

She should talk to a few financial planners that charge by the hour to give advice rather than ones that are out to sell her products.

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I think that's part of the problem. She went to some seminar from the people that want to sell her on it. She can't even explain it.