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Unbelievable! The nerve! I don't know why she just sit back and watch the NCAA championship and swill beer like I am?Quote:
Originally Posted by The SnowShow
But let me guess, what Tommy Caldwell and Jeremy Jones have to say is completely topical to the national climate change dialogue?
Remember, if you’re in Denver Friday, there’s a Climate Change March at 1:30 that starts outside of the Convention Center by the Blue Bear.
Heavy bump for Gelich, Rachel Pohl, Brody Leven, etc all getting PPP loans during the pandemic and having them forgiven. That’s some influencer bullshit. Don’t have snaps but it’s in the article “who is holding outdoor influencers accountable” in Mountain Gazette. @utahsucksdontmovehere on IG has snaps of the article in their story.
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Oof, I could have went without knowing that. That's kind of fucked. But then again, life ain't fair am I right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Phall
This is a shrug from me. Lots of worse offenders, and self employed people needed help as much as other businesses
Maybe I'd feel better if the government could shit or get off the pot on student loans already. It would be nice to, you know, plan a little bit in life.
Yeah. I’m with you there
Who the fuck are Rachel Pohl and Brody Leven? Why would they get loans forgiven?Quote:
Originally Posted by Phall
they are sanctimonious POW influencers , i mean grifters , who are profiting off so called social justice and climate issues.
More like Caroline Grift
MAKE THEM PAYQuote:
Originally Posted by snowaddict91
Imna call that bitch and leave a voicemail..
I mean its not like she'd use that money for a heli to fly up a mountain for a wedding photo shoot or to fly around the world to ski or climb something then blog about it all the while generating greenhouse gases at a rate much higher than say Slaagmaster who bikes everywhere including up LCC to Snowbird to ski. Whose footprint is bigger? Has she ever even used UTA or ridden the ski bus?
So if my tax money paid for Team POW to recreate for the last couple years does that mean I'm her spancer?
As her spancer I'm gonna need less bullshit spewing about climate change and more action, yanno lead by exaple. To start she needs to join Slaag and Skihost's pedal power brigade to get her shred on without pollution. And one IG and Tweet per week of her riding the bus to get her organic greens at the farmers market.
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Yeah, the wedding photos.
Anybody know where they are? Was looking, no success.
Can't remember if they were outright wilderness landings to boot.
Lil help here...
CG.
Epitome of the sanctimonious environmental hypocrite.
Jumping on every cause like she owns it is a little over the top as well.
Thanks for the humor Phall.
Do these people have employees? Were they using the PPP loans to make payroll and cover benefits? I’m sure this is not limited to the POW influencers, but this is not a good look.
I’ve been considering it for a while and I think I’ll subscribe to the Mtn Gazette now.
Seems like their whole “job” is to ski and post pictures online which they all did even through the height of covid.
Doesn’t seem like they lost their job or wages so… fraud?
So taking a PPP loan as an outdoor athlete is a bunch of fucking shit but how did they actually get it forgiven? That’s even bigger horseshit.
I looked at her IG. She’s skied in Antartica, Alaska and Pakistan this year. WTF!
What's a POW influencer?
Protect Our Winters
it’s a thing
major bs
well yeah but
it’s a thing
The self employed were eligible for a PPP loan. Occupation wasn’t subject to a purity test.
Kim Kardashian and Kanye got PPP loans. So did a huge swath of people in the music and video sectors, incl porn actors (all independent contractors).
I agree with Bunion - she occupies an oversized portion of y’all’s heads.
Fuck those fuckers tooQuote:
Originally Posted by TBS
The point is our tax dollars were misappropriated by these grifters to further their lifestyle, buy sprinter vans etc and not retain employees/ keep them from going hungryQuote:
Originally Posted by summit
Add Cody Townsend, Honnold and Jimmy Chin ( :( ) to the grift as well.
hopefully they return the money
You have no idea how they spent that money, you are projecting.Quote:
Originally Posted by SirHeady
Also, I’d rather have rad content creators for a sport I like getting the money and spending it into the economy than some Trump lackey taking the loan and investing it in some hedge fund.
Billionaires steal their billions from tax payers and crickets but a few middle class skiers take advantage of a program meant for them and you want to kick them out of your club? Come on now.
If they didn't break the law IDGAF.
And my taxes have not gone up--if anything they've gone down--so the "my tax dollars" rage seems a bit disingenuous.
Public appearances were all canceled, travel was canceled, how do you think these people earn money?
pathetic lifestyle fart sniffers
gonna
pathetically sniff lifestyle farts
Me too, I guess that’s why I didn’t bristle nearly as hard hearing that Chin, Honnold and Townsend got money. Something about listening to Brody and his girlfriend Katie talk about leveraging advocacy in the digital space makes me want to club baby seals and spray ducks with motor oil though. I just always assumed that that groups main occupation was “trust fund.”Quote:
Originally Posted by Supermoon
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You should be far more upset by the wealthy corporations who received PPP loans than them. I don't see anything wrong with this, at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by SirHeady
There was a limited amount of money for PPP loans, and many businesses struggled to get money. If influencers we're using that money to support trips to Antarctica or to build sprinter vans, while other legitimate businesses struggled to have money for their payroll, that is fucked up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supermoon
You say it's projecting, but it's really common sense. Look at the companies and the size of employees among all of the influencers that received PPP loans - it's about 1 employee across the board. It's obvious that money was not used for payroll of employees and the nature of the businesses listed were not typically affected by COVID. Lockdowns weren't preventing influencers from Backcountry skiing and producing content.
In the grand scheme of things PPP loans were exceptionally fraudulent. The government favored speed to disburse funds over vetting legitimate businesses. It obvious people took advantage when you look at the business type, number of employees and the large expenses they have shown on social media.
And no, I don't care if I like their content, PPP loan fraud is bad in any case (yes that includes using it to invest in a hedge fund)
Oh and billionaires pay their taxes: the top 1% pay 40% of the taxes.
That is not true according to fact checking sitesQuote:
Originally Posted by skiATL
at least those corporations employ thousands and contribute tens of millions to the economy in addition to actually producing something tangible/ beneficialQuote:
Originally Posted by TahoeJ
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Originally Posted by TahoeJ
by posting content of them doing their thing in the outdoors- if anything they were able to continue their livliehoods better than most during the pandemic.Quote:
Originally Posted by yeahman
A luxury, most Americans didnt have.
Its apparent Gleich and Leven are criminals and need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law
Cody T…384k. WTF
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Oooooh the "fact checking sites". A quick Google search of your beloved fact checkers said the stat is verifiably true that the top 1% pays to top 40% income taxes. While their are other taxes outside of income taxes, the idea that billionaires are getting off scot-free is no supported by the statistics.Quote:
Originally Posted by up an down
How is that ^^^^ a fair comparison? Arcade Belts has employees, 35 according to google.
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Wouldn't Arcade have actual employees though? Not sure if 384k is appropriate but I don't know how big they are. Arcade is at least a real company and not an lcc someone made to claim losses on their taxes for travels for their social media channels.Quote:
Originally Posted by The SnowShow
Im outraged!!
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You guys should start water skiing. That I am aware of zero percent of pro waterskiers/wakeboarders acknowledge anthropogenic climate change. Please let me know if I am wrong. Mostly a maga crowd.
At least they aren't hypocrites like many of us. Hell, just back from the river burning some petro myself. I have to shut up now because I give up my rights to speak the truth about climate when I turn that key to pull my friend.
Also, CG might be annoying to some of you. Helicopter skiing or recreating with bombastic noisy jet powered machines in the Wasatch is super fucked to me because I hate rich assholes mostly but jumping all over her in a post for burning petro during her wedding in a heli seems disingenuous and opportunistic. We all fucking shit into the air and we mostly all suck at climate mitigation every single day.
At least she is brave enough to not give a fuck what people think in a state that is going to go out of its way to suppress woman's rights very soon.
Just ignore her if you don't like her. I read her posts. Sometimes I cringe and move on without giving her any love. She is just a girl from Rochester MN doing cool shit to me.
So, who was to decide what occupations/businesses were worthy of loans?Quote:
Originally Posted by summit
Our five person company making equipment to grow weed at scale got $100k. Is that better or worse than a company that makes, say, belts? How about a professional musician? A two person architectural firm? Sole CPA? Massage therapist? Stripper?
Please explain what laws were broken.Quote:
Originally Posted by SirHeady
Shit oh dear, our company was in a federally illegal industry, didn’t have a commercial banking relationship (because we were in cannabis), and had to convert all of our people from Independent Contractor status to employees, and we still got a $100k loan. The process was an intelligence test.Quote:
Originally Posted by skiATL
Loan recipients had to document/certify that the money was spent on compensation, rent and utilities, and couldn’t be more than recent history. There were no loan proceeds for comp in excess of $8333/person/mo. And employees/contractors paid taxes on that income.
Accusing people of fraud is serious shit. If you know Gleich cheated on her loan you should provide the proof to SBA and get a bounty on her fraud.
The whole PPP program was thrown together at warp speed. It had a shitload of problems but it did the job of keeping the economy from cratering.
Y’all’s getting so wound up over this is funny. TGR is my sole social media outlet, so I guess I don’t get influenced by Instagrammers, Facefuckers or Twittertwats.
Entertainment is tangible. Ask Disney, for example. Hell, ask TGR. Not sure why Gleich et al are somehow different.Quote:
Originally Posted by SirHeady