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True that the $699 price is still displayed for FR and Carbon models, but those skis also say "SOLD OUT" and the website no longer provides a way to buy those models.
Since yesterday, it appears only the 188cm R99 and 185cm R120 are still available for order. Go buy those final few pairs! :)
https://heritagelabskis.com/products...41344513540284
https://heritagelabskis.com/products/r120
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I am so excited about this project that I resurrected my dead account from a decade ago just to say I'm in. R99 at 188. If there are any leftovers will also go for the R120s - that's the ski I really want and man I dig the top sheet. Love it.
So freaking psyched.
Welcome to the cult! Å
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Anyone in the know have a good description for how the L120 (C120) ski? I’ve been on L138s but looking for a storm day and few days after ski here in Tahoe. Do the C120s prefer big open terrain or are they more versatile than what I’m thinking?
120 is hard to explain.
Some really love. Others are meh.
1. It’s a really large radius. So on groomers you have to tail skid. Old school. Or. You carve enormous huge radius turns. Very fast. But very fun. It’s a downhill race ski. But 120 wide.
2. The tip splay is awesome. Extra float when you need it.
It’s also a pintail shape.
In pow you can load up on shin or ball of foot pressure. Again. It’s old school.
3. It does slarve. Somewhat. But you have to be moving. 138 can slarve at zero speed. 120 needs medium speed.
I can ski pretty tight trees on the 200cm.
I’ve been skiing it in storms and after. Mostly due to family luggage issues. Inbounds after a storm I’d rather be on damp metal. But I make it work on the 120.
Really interested in the Freeride non carbon layup.
Next year I’ll see how that feels. It’s ordered.
Carbon is a good touring ski. If it’s more inbounds go FR.
Right on, thanks. This will be purely a touring ski so not too worried about dampness. More as to if it’s happy skiing trees on high avy days or if it’s really more of an open ‘er up and ski fall line ski.
It’s definitely an open it up fall line ski in powder.
But you can make it go tighter.
It’s just way happier going down the line.
The 120s are fast. Trees? Sure. It is just at warp speed. Do most anything only on fast forward. I call them foot missiles. Pow helps as it slows everything down. As soon as it’s not pow and gets choppy they continue to devour all in their path but it gets sped up to rodeo levels. If you have space - whatever - it is fast super fun charge the shit out of all in your way and throw that long radius around with leg saving gs turns through chop. With a huge blank steep canvas they are stable, nimble, playful and asking for more. As it gets tight or technical it changes things since the terrain changes but the speed doesn’t. You can scrub speed fairly easily with the pin tails but as soon as the tips shift toward the fall line you’re once again hauling ass. Pitch a factor of course but aren’t really built for meadow skipping. They demand and reward strong skiing by an in-shape determined driver. Fully belong in the heritage collection but as I age they humble me.Attachment 406648
Aren't the C/FR120s sold out? Give in, get the R120s and go monster trucking [emoji869]
Foot missiles
Lol
I’m stealing that phrase.
And yet. I find the L120 way easier to ski than some of the classic full metal Free ride tour chargers.
The R120 race room metal would kill me. Getting older. Oh well. That ski is full on foot missile. Godspeed to you all that buy and ride them. Looks like fun.
Every ski has a Personality. You adapt and like it. Or you fight it and hate it.
Good description. I ride the same gen 120s as you (also tele) and they are the fastest accelerating ski I have been on. As soon as you point them down hill its warp factor 10 Mr. Sulu. Super fun straightlining from untracked pocket to untracked pocket and throwing them sideways when you get there. They scrub speed pretty well when sideways and are easy enough to slash but speed is definitely needed to make them work. "Fast forward" is an excellent way to put it. So good that I bought a backup pair this year.
You don’t like your l138 for this?
Several years ago, I loaned clydesdad my l138 and he had a loaner pair of l120 already. All tele, about 1.5 months, nearly daily touring, general wet late winter/early spring storm cycle. south lake tahoe zones. When all was said and done, he’d found himself a pair of (used) l138 r1’s for himself, finding them more versatile and enjoyable for Tahoe 3D snow backcountry conditions.
R120 is still available for purchase on website at https://heritagelabskis.com/products/r120
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Now that I broke a rib and am taking it easy for the remainder of the season, I have time to wait for a firm snow ski.
Marshal, the R87 is sold out: any ability to get in on an order? How are you handling next batches? I’d say the longer the better for me. Just want to see if it’s an option at this point.
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Hello Everyone! Just wanted to share a quick update on this project.
Summary: Some good news and some bad news.
BAD NEWS FIRST:
After ironing out a number of wrinkles the past few weeks, I ran into a couple with the Carbon and Freeride skis that I am challenged to navigate. The planned factory has booked out its capacity much faster than any previous year, so I have not yet been able to secure production I hope to have that landed in July, but delivery could get pushed into 2023… (sigh)…
In addition to this, I am hearing feedback time and time again to make unique shapes rather than strictly remakes since the reality is everyone likes the idea of the heritage skis, but all of them need tweaks anyway.
So punchline, with the uncertainty on delivery/timing, I refunding the orders with the C and FR skis for now, and re-open orders once I get more clarity. I just don’t feel right holding onto folks' $ until it is more locked in.
GOOD NEWS:
The good news is the Raceroom skis are all on track and I actually have a small window to add a few more orders to that program (til the end of next week). As such, I have extended the preorder $699 price on that whole group of skis until Sunday March 6th. Get your crud blasters and freepiste shredders!
Thank you kindly for your support of this project, I truly appreciate it. The kind words are very meaningful to me, so grateful to everyone on these and many other ski forums. As soon as I can lock in the production more concretely, I will re-open the C and FR ski offerings!
All the best,
Marshal
Well there were always going to be hiccups, right? Better to have them now than later. I'll be looking forward to applying my refund to another model. Thanks
Cheers man, thanks! Totally agree.
Thanks for the transparency.
A little bummed but still stoked for the r99s.
Solid upfront move.
Stoked for the R99’s and bet some others jump on that ski now.
Hope things can move along more smoothly Marshal.
I’ll hold out; as soon as you get a manufacture lined up for the 138s I’m in
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I like the transparency and I love this project. Already in for R99s, about to go for the R120s as well. I am so psyched for that ski. It's gonna kick my ass, but I can't wait.
And I like the pink.
I just want the old L120 shape.
DPS blew it when they added too much rocker.