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02-11-2018, 09:28 PM
Flexon Phil

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Originally Posted by Lord Thomas

Phil,

As it was described to me the Liberty V models get progressively more burly as you go up in waist width (i.e. the 92 is relatively more aggressive than the 82) They only had the 179 length available (only a couple of 186's had been pressed) so I was a little worried that I would overpower the ski (5'11" 210lb). I mostly end up on the longest lengths of a ski. This 179 V92, however, was just about perfect for me. Absolutely railed on the bulletproof at speed and didn't at all notice any of the pushed up piles. For the given, refrozen, shitty, bulletproof conditions the V92 was hands down the best ski I tried at the Mission demo. From what I can tell from just a few runs on each the V92 179 is a lot more ski than the M5 Mantra 177. Need to try both in a wider variety of conditions. So, the V92 is definitely worth investigating further. You guys on the east coast need to have this V series on your radar.

Actually, we are in Tahoe. These skis should put Liberty on the radar of quite a few skiers, they look good, are well built and nicely finished. Liberty is also rebuilding from the inside out with a quality management team and a professional rep fleet.
02-11-2018, 09:36 PM
SKIP IN7RO

https://youtu.be/KdVwHQDKb1o
02-12-2018, 12:47 AM
Lord Thomas

Yup, knew you were in Tahoe, just wanted to give notice to the ice coasters. This is seriously good stuff
02-12-2018, 01:26 AM
lordf

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flexon Phil

Actually, we are in Tahoe. These skis should put Liberty on the radar of quite a few skiers, they look good, are well built and nicely finished. Liberty is also rebuilding from the inside out with a quality management team and a professional rep fleet.

I hope they come back the UK at some point, I liked their shapes but not their build quality... They had a slightly disjointed distribution structure here as well.
02-12-2018, 08:44 AM
SupreChicken

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Originally Posted by bobsdesk

I have been waiting 7 years for a 1900 gram per ski Bibby Tour in 110 waist 186-188 length (b/c 110 bibby tour > 106 deathwish tour).

I may begrudingly purchase a meridian tour since I'm sure it's dope, but I'd like some camber for the spring.

Dude. Lithic cash 110. I wanted the same. Almost sprang for a dw tour with moustache instead of compound camber.

But that looks like the do it all 110 tourer with the same dims as a bibby 110, praxis build quality (or better), and lighter than On3P.
02-12-2018, 09:15 AM
auvgeek

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Originally Posted by SupreChicken

Dude. Lithic cash 110. I wanted the same. Almost sprang for a dw tour with moustache instead of compound camber.

But that looks like the do it all 110 tourer with the same dims as a bibby 110, praxis build quality (or better), and lighter than On3P.

The Lithic skis seem sweet, but it seems like all their long radius skis have tons of taper and all the ones without taper have a shorter radius.
02-12-2018, 09:55 AM
Norseman

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Originally Posted by auvgeek

The Lithic skis seem sweet, but it seems like all their long radius skis have tons of taper and all the ones without taper have a shorter radius.

Yes. I'm waiting for their shapes to evolve a bit more before buying a set.

Skied on a set last week but not enough to comment meaningfully.
02-12-2018, 10:53 AM
Lord Thomas

Hmmmmm,

Wasn't aware that Lithic was just down in Pashastin. Going to have to arrange a test or two next time we head down to Mission, especially if it ever snows again.
02-12-2018, 03:18 PM
bobsdesk

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Originally Posted by SupreChicken

Dude. Lithic cash 110. I wanted the same. Almost sprang for a dw tour with moustache instead of compound camber.

First time I've ever heard of Lithic. Anyone skied these or know the effective edge on the Cash 110?
02-14-2018, 11:26 PM
Tailwind

4frnt

It appears 4frnt is expanding the MSP line to include the 99 from last year and a new 107 model.
02-14-2018, 11:38 PM
Judo Chop!

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Originally Posted by Tailwind

It appears 4frnt is expanding the MSP line to include the 99 from last year and a new 107 model.

interesting. Any mag feedback on how that MSP skis?
any other info about 4frnt's line next year? I heard updated Renegades, and new graphics all around.
02-15-2018, 09:18 AM
Lord Thomas

Was hoping to see 4frnt at the demo last week but they didn't show. Too bad cuz I was geeked to try the MSP and Raven.
02-15-2018, 10:26 AM
Tailwind

I think they might be going through some re-arranging of sorts. I've heard talk of 'cutting models that don't sell' and focusing on what makes the brand successful. With the new consumer direct model I wouldn't be surprised if they just focused on selling their White Room skis for $600. They sold out of their White Room skis early and they've had a lot of really good sales on their international models which just makes me wonder if they'll be moving away from producing skis in different locations.
02-15-2018, 10:51 AM
Melee

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Originally Posted by bobsdesk

I have been waiting 7 years for a 1900 gram per ski Bibby Tour in 110 waist 186-188 length (b/c 110 bibby tour > 106 deathwish tour).

I may begrudingly purchase a meridian tour since I'm sure it's dope, but I'd like some camber for the spring.

We can make that no problem. Hit us up: info@momentskis.com
02-15-2018, 11:59 AM
LightRanger

^^^ Nice.
02-15-2018, 12:25 PM
grskier

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Originally Posted by Melee

We can make that no problem. Hit us up: info@momentskis.com

One of the reasons I still 'hang out' here.
02-15-2018, 02:03 PM
jdadour

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Originally Posted by Melee

We can make that no problem. Hit us up: info@momentskis.com

BOOM. Love it. I would be interested in how this build turns out.
02-15-2018, 02:18 PM
buenonda

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02-15-2018, 02:19 PM
buenonda

La Planche Mauriennaise

https://m.facebook.com/La.Planche.Ma...?locale2=fr_FR
02-15-2018, 03:03 PM
SJG

How would a MSP 107 be different than a Devastator (108)?
02-15-2018, 03:08 PM
japanada

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Originally Posted by SJG

How would a MSP 107 be different than a Devastator (108)?

Camber vs full rocker id guess

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02-15-2018, 07:29 PM
riff

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Originally Posted by SupreChicken

Dude. Lithic cash 110. I wanted the same. Almost sprang for a dw tour with moustache instead of compound camber.

But that looks like the do it all 110 tourer with the same dims as a bibby 110, praxis build quality (or better), and lighter than On3P.

Supre-
I don’t know if you’ve been on these yet, but I took out a pair with the inbounds core for a few laps. I came away very impressed. Balanced and predictable, really fun too! It was great snow also, which helps.

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02-15-2018, 07:46 PM
altacoup

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It appears 4frnt is expanding the MSP line to include the 99 from last year and a new 107 model.
interesting. Any mag feedback on how that MSP skis?
any other info about 4frnt's line next year? I heard updated Renegades, and new graphics all around.

Man I hope they don’t change the renegade, best ski for skiing fast through deep snow ever. Don’t mess with perfection
02-15-2018, 09:24 PM
Judo Chop!

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Originally Posted by sgsbet86

Man I hope they don’t change the renegade, best ski for skiing fast through deep snow ever. Don’t mess with perfection

that was my first reaction too. but last time when they updated and went from the owls to the greens I also had the same worry but I love the new/current ones. I have hojifaith.
02-15-2018, 11:29 PM
gaijin

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Originally Posted by sgsbet86

Man I hope they don’t change the renegade, best ski for skiing fast through deep snow ever. Don’t mess with perfection

The Renegade has to be one of the least changed ski shape/flexes in history.

My Owl is still my daily driver in Japan.

/Don't toss that ski, 4FRNT. ..... Please.

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