OFFICIAL I70 BITCH THREAD....

High capacity transportation wins. Consider all the expenses associated with development and implementation of autonomous vehicles, and four track rail starts to look like a bargain.

Human drivers aren't the problem. Humans who think that projects that were feasible and fund-worthy 50 years ago can no longer be accomplished are the problem. NJ Transit moves ~400,000/day via rail/light rail. The average Denver commuter travels alone in their vehicle. Ski traffic is often 2 people per vehicle. Do you think I70 congestion might be improved if you took say, 100,000 cars off the road each weekend? Would I25 be less congested if you took 200,000 cars off the road each day?

Nah....

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Originally Posted by grskier

They've, from where I sit, been doing a pretty good job. It's a difficult project for all the reasons you state. There are things I'd have done differently, that I'll comment on when everything is done.

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Yeah, great job ;)
http://www.aspentimes.com/news/break...dge-collapses/

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Originally Posted by shredgnar

Yeah, great job ;)
http://www.aspentimes.com/news/break...dge-collapses/

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Yeah, that happened a few minutes post comment....

I have a meeting today with some coworkers that'll have the skinny. Glad everyone is OK. After watching he video, I'm not sure of how hey we're trying to remove the first girder....

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Yeah, that happened a few minutes post comment....

I have a meeting today with some coworkers that'll have the skinny. Glad everyone is OK. After watching he video, I'm not sure of how hey we're trying to remove the first girder....

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Yeah, glad everyone is OK. Hopefully no a hudge setback. Sure everyone is working their ass off to get this thing taken care of asap.

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August 15, 2017

New all-time record for traffic at Eisenhower Tunnel set Aug. 6


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After setting new records in 2016 and 2015 before it, traffic through both directions of the Eisenhower-Johnson Memorial Tunnel is once again surpassing all-time highs this summer.

Recently released data from the Colorado Department of Transportation confirmed the weekend of Aug. 4-6, as the new titleholder, with more than 157,600 vehicles passing through the main artery of the Interstate 70 mountain corridor.

The three-day number shattered the prior high-water mark set just this past summer over July 29-31 by more than 4,000 cars. The same was true in 2016 when the last weekend of July eventually overtook the previous year's 150,500 record tally.

"Almost all of them are summer and they're almost all July, August," said Thad Noll, Summit's assistant county manager. "There's just more people on the road in the summer in the mountains. A lot of them are not coming here necessarily."

A single winter weekend cracks the top-10 counts, when a hair under 149,000 vehicles passed through during a spring break rush over March 18-20. Across the board and multiple categories, the summer months lead the pack.

By itself, Aug. 6 reigns supreme. The first Sunday of the month now also holds all-time records for most cars through the tunnels over a single hour (4,892, at 1 p.m.) and most during a 24-hour stretch (54,659). The latter smashed the prior figure by 600 vehicles, whereas the difference between the former No. 1 and No. 2 — each occurring on a Sunday afternoon as well — was just 150.

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New all-time record for traffic at Eisenhower Tunnel set Aug. 6

"On eastbound Sundays, the rush-hour peak is way more compact," said Noll, who serves as vice-chair of CDOT's statewide transportation advisory committee. "You can pretty much guarantee at 2, 3, 4 o'clock in the afternoon, you're going to have these giant counts. You get higher peaks."

The reasons for the sizable increases year over year are difficult to pinpoint. Low fuel costs and a stable, favorable economy are likely spurring on more travel. Statewide gains in population, particularly along the Front Range, is almost certainly another factor.

U.S. Census Bureau data puts the state's population at approximately 5.5 million, up more than 90,000 people — or 1.7 percent — since the previous July. Those numbers translate to Colorado having the seventh-fastest rate of growth in the nation.

Denver, meanwhile, is growing a bit quicker, at somewhere around 2 percent. Demographers are confident the capital city will eclipse a population of 700,000 by the close of 2017.

Data tabulated by CDOT through the tunnels support each of those statistics. The aggregate from 2013 to 2014 grew almost 4 percent; and then 5 percent, and most recently 8 percent — approximately 850,000 more cars year to year — from 2015 to 2016.

End of the year totals won't be available until early 2018. Based on the initial summer visits, however, as well as the annual percentage growth of these last four cycles, it looks as though the trend will continue.

More people = more cars on the road. Records will continue to be set each year.

It's not fuzzy math.

More funding for infrastructure needed, too many people on the road, robot cars, HOV lanes, how NYC does everything better...

Deja vu man, deja vu!

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Human drivers aren't the problem.

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Yes. Yes they are. They are TERRIBLE at driving.

What I don't get is: why do tourons keep coming back during these super busy times? If I had flown into DIA, and then had been stuck in traffic for 3-4 hours to go 90 miles, then have it happen again the next weekend, I'd never come back. Isn't there a tipping point where that starts to happen?

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What I don't get is: why do tourons keep coming back during these super busy times? If I had flown into DIA, and then had been stuck in traffic for 3-4 hours to go 90 miles, then have it happen again the next weekend, I'd never come back. Isn't there a tipping point where that starts to happen?

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Yeah but you got out of Texas where it is 150F and played in the mountains for 6 days in between. Not a terrible trade.

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Yeah but you got out of Texas where it is 150F and played in the mountains for 6 days in between. Not a terrible trade.

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Why not go elsewhere? Utah, MT, WY?

Because those places are fucking hot, no major airport, further away, and less resorts. But People do go there. I heard a few people were headed to Jackson this weekend.

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Because those places are fucking hot, no major airport, further away, and less resorts. But People do go there. I heard a few people were headed to Jackson this weekend.

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I think all those Texas should head to SLC...major airport, close to the cool breezes of Park City. So much easier than I70.

I think all Texans should drive off a fucking cliff but do they ever do what we want?

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Why not go elsewhere? Utah, MT, WY?

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You apparently haven't been to the national parks in Utah or Wyoming.

I don't think tourists are landing at DIA at 600am Saturday morning and driving right into peak traffic either.

Yeah, Summit county and I70 is packed, but it really isn't too unmanageable. Sure I70 is a clusterfuck at the usual suspect times, but I've actually been surprised at how uncrowded Breck and vail have been this week.

It's crowded, but Tahoe and Yellowstone are just as bad, if not worse

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Yeah, Summit county and I70 is packed, but it really isn't too unmanageable. Sure I70 is a clusterfuck at the usual suspect times, but I've actually been surprised at how uncrowded Breck and vail have been this week.

It's crowded, but Tahoe and Yellowstone are just as bad, if not worse

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You're right and sometimes it's easy to forget that with all the local bitching.

I've got to go through that Glenwood Springs bullshit next week. Is it miserable all times or better in between rush hours and lunch?

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You're right and sometimes it's easy to forget that with all the local bitching.

I've got to go through that Glenwood Springs bullshit next week. Is it miserable all times or better in between rush hours and lunch?

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It's busy E bound from 5:30 am - 9 or 10

It's busy W bound from 3-10 pm ( only slightly exaggerated)

Where do you need to go? When?

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What I don't get is: why do tourons keep coming back during these super busy times? If I had flown into DIA, and then had been stuck in traffic for 3-4 hours to go 90 miles, then have it happen again the next weekend, I'd never come back. Isn't there a tipping point where that starts to happen?

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Excellent point that's been said hundreds of times. I went to Dumont Saturday morning and got there at 7:30. Almost no traffic heading west.

Then around 10:30 it started getting thick and by noon it was stop and go. Sleeping in was a mistake if you hate traffic.

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It's busy E bound from 5:30 am - 9 or 10

It's busy W bound from 3-10 pm ( only slightly exaggerated)

Where do you need to go? When?

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Aspen from Silverthorne. My wife hates Indy so we're going the Glenwood way [emoji849]

Is I70 a mess or just after you get off onto 82? Thanks man.

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Aspen from Silverthorne. My wife hates Indy so we're going the Glenwood way [emoji849]

Is I70 a mess or just after you get off onto 82? Thanks man.

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Will she take some anti anxiety meds?

Seriously

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Aspen from Silverthorne. My wife hates Indy so we're going the Glenwood way [emoji849]

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Weed, man... weed.

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Originally Posted by The SnowShow

Aspen from Silverthorne. My wife hates Indy so we're going the Glenwood way [emoji849]

Is I70 a mess or just after you get off onto 82? Thanks man.

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Did you miss the memo about Cottonwood? Skip Gwood and the canyon. Easy peasy.

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Originally Posted by shredgnar

Did you miss the memo about Cottonwood? Skip Gwood and the canyon. Easy peasy.

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Never been on that road - is it dirt?